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by Mike Masnick




Dead Musicians Write No Songs... But They Sure Can Sign Petitions Protecting Copyright Extension

from the funny-how-that-works dept

Remember yesterday when we were talking about the petition a bunch of musicians and record industry types supposedly signed in the UK in favor of extending copyrights on recordings beyond 50 years? Larry Lessig has noticed that at least a few of the "signatures" happen to come from musicians who are quite dead already, which might make you question the legitimacy of the other signatures as well. As Lessig notes, however, perhaps he was wrong in pointing out that extending copyright after the music has been made has no incentive on songs created 50 years ago. After all, if dead men can sign petitions from the grave, perhaps they can write new 50-year-old songs.

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    Dec 8th, 2006 @ 8:27pm
  • Again?

    by SimplyGimp

    Doesn't this happen with just about every petition? At least here in the states it seems to. Hell, we have whole towns of dead people who still vote in elections, why not let them write music and sign petitions as well?

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  • Dec 8th, 2006 @ 8:52pm
  • Heh. that's nothin'...

    by hooya

    you should check out cook county (Chicago, IL) elections. *All* the deceased rise to the occasion. pun intended.

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  • Dec 9th, 2006 @ 2:01am
  • The Simpsons

    by Anonymous Coward

    Anybody else remember an episode of The Simpsons with something like this happening - and Lisa's dead cat's name was on the petition, and she went psycho?

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  • Dec 9th, 2006 @ 3:30am
  • The British Phonographic Industry

    I am aghast at this.

    Next thing, you will be telling us is the RIAA are a bunch of liars also . .

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  • Dec 9th, 2006 @ 5:44am
  • by Anonymous Coward

    fuck the riaa

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  • Dec 9th, 2006 @ 6:55am
  • Tales from the Crypt

    by CoolCliftop

    We need to give this story some credence after all dead writers have their issues too. It seems that after you die, the entrance to heaven for writers and musicians is based solely on sales and copyright extensions.

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  • Dec 9th, 2006 @ 6:55am
  • Tales from the Crypt

    by CoolCliftop

    We need to give this story some credence after all dead writers have their issues too. It seems that after you die, the entrance to heaven for writers and musicians is based solely on sales and copyright extensions.

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  • Dec 9th, 2006 @ 6:55am
  • Tales from the Crypt

    by CoolCliftop

    We need to give this story some credence after all dead writers have their issues too. It seems that after you die, the entrance to heaven for writers and musicians is based solely on sales and copyright extensions.

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  • Dec 9th, 2006 @ 6:56am
  • Tales from the Crypt

    by CoolCliftop

    We need to give this story some credence after all dead writers have their issues too. It seems that after you die, the entrance to heaven for writers and musicians is based solely on sales and copyright extensions.

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  • Dec 9th, 2006 @ 6:56am
  • Tales from the Crypt

    by CoolCliftop

    We need to give this story some credence after all dead writers have their issues too. It seems that after you die, the entrance to heaven for writers and musicians is based solely on sales and copyright extensions.

    (reply to this comment) (link to this comment)

  • Dec 9th, 2006 @ 6:56am
  • Tales from the Crypt

    by CoolCliftop

    We need to give this story some credence after all dead writers have their issues too. It seems that after you die, the entrance to heaven for writers and musicians is based solely on sales and copyright extensions.

    (reply to this comment) (link to this comment)

  • Dec 9th, 2006 @ 10:26am
  • Erasing old songs...

    Maybe they're decomposing music?

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  • Dec 9th, 2006 @ 12:24pm
  • not dead yet

    by Ned

    maybe they are not quite dead yet. They might be nearly dead or mostly dead, but not fully dead.

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  • Dec 9th, 2006 @ 3:02pm
  • Dead Signatures

    by August West

    Did Elvis sign it? Last I heard he was at the Burger King in Decatur Georgia, but that was almost 20 years ago. He might be in the U.K. by now, you never know.

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  • Dec 9th, 2006 @ 3:12pm
  • How can you say that dead musicians write no songs

    by Roger

    Look at Tupac...he has released much more music in his death then he ever did while he was alive. Clearly you all are mistaken.

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  • Dec 9th, 2006 @ 4:05pm
  • Without copy protection,

    by dorpus

    You can enjoy SQNY's non-exploding batteries, and drink Caca Cala.

    http://img.epochtimes.com/i6/612060821481459.jpg

    http://img.epochtimes.com/i6/6120608215 01459.jpg

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  • Dec 9th, 2006 @ 4:37pm
  • dead musicians signing copyright petition

    Were any of these dead musicians from Chicago? That would explain it. Dead guys vote all the time over there, even twice.

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  • Dec 9th, 2006 @ 5:44pm
  • The Final Ripoff!

    by Monty Python

    ...the decomposing composers,
    there's less of them every year,
    you can still hear Beethoven,
    but there's not much of him left to hear...

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  • Dec 9th, 2006 @ 7:39pm
  • by Daniel

    LOL, you good folks crack me up! Took me a minute CoolCliftop!

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  • Dec 10th, 2006 @ 5:52am
  • by brwyatt

    Suing dead people, suing people without computers (or internet), now dead people signing petition in favor of those jerks... I wouldn't mind all this bull if they weren't jerks about it... I partly understand why they are mad at downloading music and copyright laws... but the way they are handling it is really bad... instead of trying to think about how they can either use this to their advantage and work with the fans, they decided to use it to get as much money as they can from everyone. Not only that, but the record companies take most of the money from CDs and sale of online downloads and the artist gets very little, however the artists real money comes from tours anyway... the RIAA is upset at THEIR OWN profits, any complaint about artist's profits is somewhat BS...

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  • Dec 10th, 2006 @ 8:37am
  • Oh my gosh!

    You dont mean that possibly anyone in the RIAA would lie and cheat for more money do you? Im shocked....

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  • Dec 10th, 2006 @ 3:47pm
  • by Anonymous Coward

    "i Wrote this song a long time ago , way back in 94"
    -dave chappelle

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  • Dec 10th, 2006 @ 3:58pm
  • This just rights the wrongs

    by Elvis

    The current copyright just isn't long enough. It needs to be longer so i can continue to remain retired in .

    EP

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  • Dec 10th, 2006 @ 8:33pm
  • spelling error

    by AZ

    You made a spelling error.

    "After all, if dead mean" Dead man.
    Hope you see this and correct it.

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    • Dec 10th, 2006 @ 10:40pm
    • Re: spelling error

      by Gus

      You made a life error in correcting someone's spelling online. I hope you see that and correct your life (aka, end it). Thanks.

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      • Dec 11th, 2006 @ 7:12am
      • Re: Re: spelling error

        by Wyndle

        You made an ethics error in correcting someone's life error online. I hope you see that and correct your ethics (aka, be more subtle for better humor). Thanks.

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    Dec 11th, 2006 @ 8:47am
  • Elvis is not dead

    by BrianK

    According to Men in Black Elvis isn't dead, he just went home...

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  • Dec 11th, 2006 @ 7:59pm
  • Dead Musicians signing on

    by mitch mcguire

    Er...perhaps you have heard of Estates? One of the biggest earners is Elvis and he be dead. So whomever runs the estate of said musicians is legally allowed to sign that musicians name to an add, if he/she feels it is justified and will help the estate.

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