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by Mike Masnick




Bullies Branching Out

from the and-so-it-goes dept

The issue of children bullying other children isn't new at all. Even the fact that kids use new technologies to bully each other isn't new. We've written about bullying by blogs, by email, by websites and by text messaging. It sounds like parents and school teachers and administrators are finally realizing what's happening, but have no idea how to deal with it. This article, however, doesn't note the fact that those who have switched the electronic bullying are often a different breed of bully than the historical bully. When bullying was physical, it was the bigger kids, but now, (as is pointed out in the link above to bullying by blogs) it's often the so-called "good kids" who suddenly have an outlet to bully back. Worse, as this article points out, since we have an always-on world, the bullying goes on non-stop. This is especially true as bullying moves to mobile phone text messages. As for what to do about it, the article suggests the typical response: don't respond to the bullying - which is always easier said than done. The one bit of good advice for parents and school officials, though, is not to think that a bully is anonymous just because they're using technology. The potential list of bullies is pretty limited, and it should be possible to figure out who's responsible using traditional means.

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    Dec 29th, 2003 @ 6:14pm
  • Ignore it

    by thecaptain

    I love the people who advise to "ignore" the bullies and they'll go away.

    People so easily forget how relentless and tenacious children can be. Most bullies will simply take that attitude as a challenge to see how much they can dish out before you break.

    My mother always advised to ignore it...my dad's advice to stand up for myself was always Vetoed because it was felt that I should never get in a fight.

    The hell I went through DAILY for 3 years by one child and his cronies only stopped when I was the beneficiary of a rather good growth spurt, 1 year of tae kwon do and intensive bodybuilding. I found myself much bigger than my tormentors and stood up, defended myself vigorously for once...that ended my torment. I've always felt I should have done it years before.

    Unfortunately today its not fisticuffs, its knives and guns. I don't have a child...but while I don't ever want to say to him "Ignore it, it will go away", I also know that if I tell him to stand up for himself I might get him killed. That's scary.

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  • Dec 29th, 2003 @ 10:04pm
  • hard knock school of peer review and torture

    by Anonymous Coward

    Bulling in school is nothing more than preperation for later life. It is ubiquitous and inevitable as the air we breath. Bulling in school is part of the latent, unstated circulum. It is an IQ test that molds how you deal with such situations for the rest of your life.

    I have learned some very important things from being both giver and recipiant:

    1 - the powers that be won't help you and really don't care; however, if you can demonstrate your ability to solve the problem creatively without causing further problems for them, you will forever have their respect.

    2 - recipcating in kind always leads to an arms race (of sorts) that gets you in even deeper trouble.

    3 - attention spans of a bully are extremely short in the big scheme of things (such as completing the project/semester/school year).

    4 - bulliers are almost always manifesting some other type of difficulty in their life (part of the shit-flows-down-hill principle).

    5 - the meek will NOT inherit the earth; bullies and bold innovators will.

    6 - if you're not smart enough to work around the problem of a bully, perhaps you should consider joining their ranks (and if that's distasteful to you, you should continue trying to solve the problem).

    7 - Bulling is about establishing hiarchay. If you can clearly demontrate that you work outside of whatever type of hiarchical systems is trying to be imposed upon you, bulling you has absolutly no purpose... unless you're just dealing with an obsessive/sadist and then you just need to take your problem solving to the next level.

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    • Dec 30th, 2003 @ 7:14am
    • Re: hard knock school of peer review and torture

      by Anonymous Coward

      Sty in school. Learn to spell.

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      • Dec 30th, 2003 @ 10:08am
      • Re: hard knock school of peer review and torture

        by Anonymous Coward

        I will "learn to spell" when techdirt gets a spelling checker... until that time, I have way to many things rolling around in my head (bits and pieces of other languages) to spell in yours correctly.

        BTW, in school, I would always pass spelling tests with 90% or better... a lot of fscking work for nothing if you ask me... but that's one of the halmarks of the American Education System, isn't it.

        Have a nice day and get a life.

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      Jan 11th, 2004 @ 11:04pm
    • Re: hard knock school of peer review and torture

      by Everyday Low Price

      What an idiot.

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    • Aug 25th, 2005 @ 3:04am
    • Re: hard knock school of peer review and torture

      by Sifu

      I was bullied for years and even had both arms broken during a beat down. It wasn't until I fought back and made an example that the torment stopped for me and others. Most bullies can't take 1/3 of what they dish out and a solid defense usually quells the problem. They stop or move on tro an easier target.

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    Dec 30th, 2003 @ 6:53am
  • No Subject Given

    by PhuzzyLogic

    While I do see a few points from the above posts, the one fact that I do agree with is that ALL of the reactions to, and the bullying is in preparation of the future.

    To the first poster, I personally would thank that ‘Tormentor’ of yours, they made you the mentally and physically strong person you are today, and to you I say ‘Kudos!’, very nicely done.

    No, the “Ignore it” does not work all the time, but in my case coupled with my simple attitude of I really do not care, I never had to worry about bullies.

    Everyone must deal with the problem, and no it will not go away. That is just one of the strange things about humanity, “All must live and learn to deal with the problems that arise in our lives..”

    I think it is funny to hear someone try and tell me that it MUST be dealt with by the parents. Well, there are some things that need to be dealt with by parents, but how can we expect our children to grow into adults if we always pamper them?

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  • Dec 30th, 2003 @ 11:34am
  • Easy Solution

    by tangerrine

    Online bullying.

    Parent just sets up IM logging, grab the email or website.

    End of story.

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  • Oct 10th, 2006 @ 5:50am
  • Bullies

    by Lora Brooks

    When I was a child I was the target of the school bullies. I was a loner, I smelled bad and I was very, very shy. My parents belonged to the club of not paying any attention to it and it will go away. The times I came home after a really bad beating my parents would ask me what I did to deserve it.
    This continued untiled I graduated from high school.
    and ran away from home.
    How have I solved the problem ? In the years since school I am now a witch. I don't get bullied for long.

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  • Nov 10th, 2009 @ 10:35am
  • Wrong

    by joe

    being bullied does not have positive affects on how you deal with future conflicts in life. it leaves scars that make you bitter, insecure, etc. children are too young to deal with such. the brain and esteem can't cope. they end up being troubled later in life by these demons, both literally and metaphorically.

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