Even The Kids Today Think Modern Music Sucks

from the wake-up-call-for-music-execs dept

One of the arguments that many people have made concerning an alternative explanation for the decline in music sales is that today’s music just isn’t that good. A lot of people shrugged that off, though, as being typical snobbery of people who always think the music of their generation was better than the crap on the radio today. Well, now it seems that even many of today’s kids are agreeing that music from decades past was much better than what’s on the radio these days – and part of how they’re figuring that out is by experimenting with such “classic” songs by downloading them online. They get their first taste from a band they like today mentioning their influences – and they also get a lot of pointers from their parents, an idea that’s shocking to those of an older generation who made sure whatever they listened to was exactly what their parents didn’t like. Read through the article, though, and see how many record execs are positively stunned that the kids today are actually sophisticated enough to know that the music they’re pushing just isn’t very good. One other interesting tidbit in the article answers some of the concerns from some that all this downloading will “unbundle” the album by getting kids interested in only downloading one song. Instead, kids are pointing out that the old albums are full of good songs, so they want the full albums. It’s only when the albums are full of filler that people are willing to unbundle the album and just pick up a couple singles.


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Adam (user link) says:

Oh Come on ...

These kind of music stories are always such crap – we all know why this article says that the “music” of today is worse than the “golden oldies,” because the “music” they’re talking about is RADIO. Sorry, but that’s not music, that’s Clear Channel’s business plan. Kids, adults, small animals ALL hate what’s on the radio, because it’s mass-marketed crap. The quality of the independent music industry, however, is lightyears beyond anything that’s been out there before. Yes, RADIO sucks more than it ever has before, that’s why God invented the Car CD Player.

DJ says:

Re: Oh Come on ...

I don’t know what insulated world you live in, Adam, but where I live there are plenty of radio stations that play music from the “independent music industry”. Unfortunately, it, as well as the mass marketed music, sucks. I’ve tried music locally, I’ve tried music available through online channels and it all sucks.

paket says:

Re: Re: Re: Oh Come on ...

News flash – radio stations are all about making money, not trying to satisfy every piddly subculture’s musical tastes. If an advertiser popped up and offered double rates for nothing but “Mary had a little lamb”, that’s what they would play. If you don’t like the music, change the station. If you don’t like any of the stations, here’s a wonderful opportunity to start your own and show the world how right you are. Of course, if it’s only yourself and your ten friends listening, you may have a tough time.
But then, it’s a whole lot easier to slap on a tin foil hat and complain on Internet message boards than to put your money where you mouth is, isn’t it?

Ididyourmama (user link) says:

Re: Re: Re:3 Anoymous"indie"coward is GAYeatshit

Lets try to kick some dirty asses here
you are a just a Indie Queer,anonymous coward,
typical of indie/emo turds,if everybody that is reading
it are tired of the”homossexualization”of “rock”today
lets start a war,one here right now,if you see a emo
or indie or another mtv spawn on street,kick his ass
or kill him with a gun,period.Its time to change this game
now its the time,lets unite our forces to stop this
assholes,cause they deserve it and are begging for it.
no place for this suckers anymore,its time to fight for
real.We Will Never forgive this people in generations,and when they will get older,they will known as the main guilt for XXI century s music idiotisczism.so Kill them all
INDIE SUCKS!!!

Joe Baderderm says:

Re: Re: Re: Oh Come on ...

Yeah, now that most radio stations are just playing EXACTLY what is on MTV or VH1, there are hardly any free thinking radio programmers anymore. I barely listen to the radio except to tune in to sports. And I know there are some independent stations like KPOO around the SF Bay Area but I live a little too far north to get them.

mark says:

no, actually, modern music DOES suck

it doesn’t matter whether it’s on the radio or not. modern music DOES suck. the main reason is that younger people are choosing to recycle whatever “rock era” happens to be trendy at the time. elvis and the beatles had their influences, but they certainly didn’t sound like them. there is a difference between “influence” and “imitation.” the myth of “independent music = quality” has been propagated for far too long. it’s ALL shit. time to invent a new genre, people.

Joel says:

Re: no, actually, modern music DOES suck

To say that all modern music “sucks” is a big thing to say, and I don’t think you know enough about modern music to make such a comment. By saying such a thing you are discrediting such talented artists as Dave Matthews, the Counting Crows, Green Day, Reel Big Fish, 311, and all the other good bands of the 90’s. However, 2004 music really does suck. There is no denying that. It is strange how the quality of music has seemed to steeply decline since 9/11.

Danny says:

Re: Re: no, actually, modern music DOES suck

Dude, I have to relate with you 100%. Since 9/11 the bands have sucks more or less. And all these new rock bands sound like they haven’t gone through puberty yet. You don’t have great bands like Nirvana, Pearl Jam, Alice in Chains. Band that not only rocked but wrote great lyrics.

Packrat says:

Re: Re: no, actually, modern music DOES suck

greenday hasnt been original in like 10 years…reel big fish hasnt been popular since 1998…dave matthews is so lame id much rather listen to white noise…and the counting crows? sheesh your talking about bands from the 90’s…when we are talking about modern rock, id venture to say that anything since 2000 has fallen way shorter then anything has ever before…music is dying and we as consumers are sending a message to the record companies that their shit sucks, but their too old and stupid to figure out that thats what we’re trying to say…simple economics damnt. sing some good bands and people will buy again..you keep signing sh!t like “panic! at the sh!tshow…and guess what…no ones gonna buy it CUZ IT SUCKS….’nuff said.
rat

A7X FAN says:

Todays Music

Im 15 and your article is digusting. Older music is no better than todays(i like oldies too, so i kno both sides). The music of today is just DIFFERENT then older music(with the exception of rap,wich in my book does not fit the definition of music). They dont have any less talent than anyother musicians. My veiw on music, with the exception of rap, is that all music is good. Its just if you like it or not. Good music is just an opinion.

Inklefud says:

Re: Todays Music

Though you are only 15 I think you’ve made some wise points. Whether or not you like certain music is about “opinion”, I agree. But just as valid are others opinions that todays music sucks. If they say it sucks then they mean thier opinion is that they don’t like it. My opinion is that music has been generally sucking since the late 1970’s (I would have been 7 or 8 at the time). I listened to rock music since before I was in grade school. Then disco came in the late 70’s and all of a sudden image became “important” to producers (so it seems). I had the misfortune of experiencing probably the worst era in music, or at least mainstream music, the 1980’s. It hasn’t improved much exept for better availability of Indie music. To me if you think “all music is good” then you can’t be listening to the “music”. I’m a consumer of music and also a creator of music. It’s very powerful to really connect to a song. I advise you to really seek out some music that will grab you right in the guts and take you on an emotional ride. Don’t deprive yourself of this. I couldn’t imagine my life if I never listened to bands like Led Zeppelin or Pink Floyd and many of thier influences. “Good music” is strong lyrically, musically and in originality. It also has a certain something that can’t be described. I never liked advice when I was 15, but in case you are more open minded, there it is.

A7X FAN (user link) says:

Re: Re: Inklefud

“Though you are only 15 I think you’ve made some wise points.” Thank You. Someone that realizes that where not as stupid as we might look, or because were younger. For Example, i put a phrase from The Used in my aim profile and my mom couldent uderstand it. But from my veiw i know exactly what it means.(IM me at xRockxSteady89x) Getting back to your comment, when i said “i think all music is good” it was not my opinion. That statement was saying, Music is Music. I do not think all music is good because for example i hate rap and country. Thats my opinion. But tons of people like rap and country so it can’t be “bad” music. Right? Also i do ACTUALY LISTEN to the music. I love it when your just rockin out and you get that crazy tingley shiver down your spine. To me i think thats totally connecting with your tunes, its just awsome. A lot of times i think people listen to music, because its in or just because it sounds cool. What i like about the music that i listen to, is that a can relate to what there saying. Sometimes get that chill down my spine, while the instrumentals are kicking major ass. Likewise, i couldent imagine my life without music. If i became deaf i would kill myself. And yes Pink Flyod and Led Zeplin are awsome, the old rock and metal is totaly kickass. Also all the new(i guess you could call it) alt. Rock and metal are awsome. I also like Emo, i can relate to that a lot too. Thanks for your comment and time. If you or anyone else wants to chat…IM me at xRockxSteady89x

Cherie says:

Even the Kids Today think modern music sucks

I agree, modern music does suck with the excetion of only a handful of rock songs. My 15 yr. old son doesn’t like it either. He likes a few newer songs, but mostly he listens to older stuff like Ozzy, AC/DC, Def Leppard, ect. Most music, especially in the rap, hip-hop, and pop genre has gone to shit in the last seven to eight years. It’s all a bunch of prepackaged crap now! I think the music kings have finally run out of ideas. 95% of the music stinks to high heaven now. It really scary to imagine what will be blaring over the airwaves 10 years from now.

Bryan says:

music industry is not in good health (refering to

I agree that todays music sucks in the United States(US). The attention sets to rap artist that I recall are rats that send messages that are harsh, crude and are mad spirited. I think it’s unhealthy for the music industry to release such material. Rap that dominates the music charts has no musical elements, lacks adding intrest; the bass and perrcusion line constantly repeats the same pattern through out the whole recording,{though not on all rap}; many times the pitch of the rapper never changes,and the lyrics is just in a form of a gothic conversation. Rap is underproduced. These are just a few charistics I notice in rap that is charting.(with some exception to The Game for making rap closer to musical)I think despite the rhythm, I think that it’s effortless for them record a rap song. It’s a sad shame that the musicians that are working all of their energy for endless hours and months making a true mastpiece are unnoticed. They are in the underground league that deserve to go mainstream {I inclued musicains in the fine arts}. I find it ironic that todays major label record companies invest millions of dollars to promote music that is dull and boring. Personally I listen to music from the ’60s to the’80s and some from the’90s. I question where is the mouse trap? I think that eventailly that society will lose concience on rap and boring music where I think that even Shaun Cassidy will be remembered more, I’ll add Iron Butterfly. Hello again to Stevie Wonder & Fleetwood Mac {just a few music artist. I do wish for Emin-nut {thats what I call him} to jump in the lake and stay in it. THERE IS NO QUESTION THAT GOOD MUSIC NEEDS TO COME BACK TO THE MUSIC CHARTS! I think a lot of peaple in the US are starving for it.
Sidenote to the rappers: bring the toaster out.

JDG says:

Re: music industry is not in good health (refering

I agree with the above comment. Rap has become a cash cow for quite a few people. You will not be seeing an end to the trend for at least another year. The Asian market will buy ANYTHING with a backbeat…this gives more money for more PR and exposure in the USA.

I think MySpace has been calling out better music. Things will change. It just takes time.

Germ says:

American music today is nausiating. What with all the Lincoln park whiny middle class white boy bullshit. What happened to GOOD music?

What happened to musicians actualy trying to use their medium to convey a message WORTH hearing?

I dont give a flyin f*ck about what the lead singer of system of a down thinks about war and politics. If i wanted to hear about that shit i’d turn on CNN! All i want my rock stars to do is kick ass, fuck groupies, and injest copius amounts of narcotics.

Rap isnt much better, but no offense brian, rap has been underproduced tedius rythm and bass since it started. Its what makes rap .. rap.

not that i’m saying its bad. I enjoy plenty of rap songs.

Kain says:

Americans are losers

Mainstream sucks because americans suck.

MTV has killed rap, by forcing most radio stations to play their music if they want to stay on the air. I know alot of people don’t consider rap music but that’s not true, mainstream rap is not music. You may listen to that crappy Nelly shit and “Mr.Hardcore Bow Wow” and thats why everyone hates rap. REAL good rap is underground and lots of rap isn’t just the bling, money, and hoes crap, it’s real poetic forms of music.

Now rock is also being completely destroyed by mainstream bands. It’s the same whiny “girlfriend-died-and-left-me-empty-in-my-soul” crap. Then again I’m not a very big fan of rock besides bands like Chevelle.

Then you have the people who claim to be fans. Once Fort Minor had Where’d You Go? as a hit, suddenly EVERYBODY liked Mike Shinoda. Real Linkin Park fans who like songs outside of Numb and Faint know what I’m talking about.

Whatever though, there really isn’t anything you can do about it. This is why it’s hard being my age (14) because I don’t know anybody else who likes less popular artist. Most people I know won’t listen to it if they can’t bounce their ass to it. Americans suck.

Hiryu Toriyama says:

Re: Americans are losers

Yo dude, I hate to pop your souffle there, but don’t say that American’s suck because of music. In truth, it’s only a handful of people overall that cause music these days to suck royal balls. I agree with you that music sucks. Truth be told the newest music I listen to is from the mid 1990s. Most of the music I listen to isn’t even North American; I listen to Japanese heavy metal, the quality is from the 80s but with new tones and quality. But you being as young as you are, I applaude you for making so many valid and informed points. Huzzah to you dude.

Angus says:

yea the people who are in control ruined our cultu

the music that people claim is big in todays world, seems dull in comparision to oldies and some new artists that are unfamous.

I found a couple people on line who are totally not big sellers who are just like the good old days and they are not old.

People should be aware that some extremely gifted people are being shoved aside for some reason to give attention to mediocrity at best.

random hero (user link) says:

I want to be the massiah of music

Hope you guys don’t think iam pretentious or consider myself pretigious because of the title. Any ways I do agree that todays music is the worst its ever been BUT the oldies haven’t been great pieces of art either (even though there way better then modern music). There has always been terrible music in which ever decade or century but not as bad now. As for the radio they never really play good music just what ever margets the most amount of money (there are some station in certain areas that have a half decent play list they run). About the comments on underground music and independent labels there are some bands that belong to these catigories that have semi-statisfying music (rarely very excellent songs by these artists) but there need to be something of a higher rank to save music then current independent musicians. Oh yah did I mention that absolutely despise mainsteam music I exspecially HATE how these current musicians (if want to call them that) lie through their teeth about how passionate, how much the love music. COME ON don’t treat me like an idiot everyone knows there in the music business to make money (I just wish the would get sucked in a black hole). It sad that music became another get rich scheme, became a high class hooker and if you give her enough money she’ll give you what you want – fortune and fame due to the ignorant retards that support these egotistic misognist talentless dumbshits. I leave another message based on modern media (what I mean is I’ll get into further discussion on mainstream media such as reality T.V. – american idol and so on). NOW that i got some of that off my chest I can talk about what I really want. I said in the subject that “I want to be the massiah of music” i guess what I mean is I’ve created 2 new types of music that are like a hybrid all my favourite music genres (I don’t want say the names because I’ve had too many of my ideas stolen from me before) and my lyrics are very diverse (unlike most bullshit lyrics that have no meaning or message) and original with my own style. Also my voice has wide range anywhere from screaming to falsetto and various other types (though I’m no where close to how good I want to be but I’am not going to give up until I reach my goal). My only problem is I can’t find band that takes music as seriously, creatively as I do and I’m have a hard time instrumentally (I can’t get the hang of any of instruments). I do have non-stop song ideas and visions hopefully I’ll find a band and become “the massiah of music” be the one who saved music from the shit pit it fell into and bring knew types of music along with originality, talent and actually play for the joy of music and not the profit……………maybe………………….I wish I wish……………………………………………………I wish

Peter Ross Anderson (user link) says:

SynchPedro86

Music died a long time ago. There used to be a passion for the business when guys like Spandau Balley and Culture Club ruled the airwaves. Hell, they even played their own instruments and penned thier own songs too.

Some pop groups used drum machines, but there was nothing sinful about it. They were still great to listen to and even now, people would still sing along to the chorus from Karma Chamelion or Take On Me. But you want see me listening to much post-2000 stuff because the passion is no more.

BSolo says:

recording tech is also to blame

If you listen to old rock records, it becomes obviously apparent that the soundboards and recording equipment they used had imperfections of static, preamp overloading, and other abnormalities that created “buzz”, “distortion” and other sonic imperfections. And god, isn’t it great? Being an intern at a modern recording studio that implements both retro and brand new tech, the comparison is stark as day. New tech creates such clarity, its too clear, too impassionate – the imperfections that we found in old music added to the genuineness of the artists that fed our souls. New music, while it might lack that ingenuity and integrity needed for great music, would serve itself well to rethink the tech that it implements. This is mostly the musicians fault! As a band, most of the time you have the option of choosing the studio in which you’d like to record….just some food for thought.

Kentaro Washio says:

They're right, the music sucks. Here's proof:

Just listen to the pop music radio stations nowadays. You won’t hear a full set of new songs like you did in the 80’s and 90’s – instead, they play the same old songs by Moby, Evanesence, and the like that they were playing four years ago. Not just the same artists, mind you, but the VERY SAME SONGS. New bands get very little airplay, and have you noticed how many music retailers are closing down? It’s terrible. These are objective realities, not opinions. Them music industry is in a crisis.

Kamileon says:

Tru Dat

As all various types of corporations get even greedier as the years roll by, it will become more evident to the average lay-person that profits, profits, and more profits are the driving force in production — and not customer satisfaction as may have been the golden rule decades upon decades ago.

When music became a profitable industry that could be effectively marketed, it was done so to the extreme and the average person’s susceptibility and receptiveness to advertisement and marketing was exploited most heinously, as other industries have done (ie., cigarettes, alcohol, automobile, etc., etc.) previously in history and continue to.

Now, when the market becomes saturated, and production for the purpose of profit supercedes quality, you end up with a shit product. It is pretty simple. It is what happened to music and is inevitable, even the health care industry follows the same type of outline.

There are still some good bands out there, of course, but are they good because of talent, or multimillion dollar advertising and marketing schemes. Be honest with yourself and ask yourself once.

Patrick (user link) says:

It's a nightmare

I feel as if every era of music has had shitty bands but you would allways have great rock bands to fall back on (for example), in the 90’s you had those fuckin boy bands but there was allways bands like Stone temple pilots, pearl jam, Nirvana, ext. To fall back on, but nowadays all the bands are shitty and it’s quite depressing and sad. I only pray that some bands begin to irise that play atleast some kind of non electronical piece of shit emo music I fuckin hate it!!!!!!!!!!!

Anonymous Coward says:

Re: It's a nightmare

“I feel as if every era of music has had shitty bands but you would allways have great rock bands to fall back on (for example), in the 90’s you had those fuckin boy bands but there was allways bands like Stone temple pilots, pearl jam, Nirvana, ext. To fall back on, but nowadays all the bands are shitty and it’s quite depressing and sad. I only pray that some bands begin to irise that play atleast some kind of non electronical piece of shit emo music I fuckin hate it!!!!!!!!!!!”

I totally agree with you there. No prizes to who guesses who you were reffering to in the last sentence *cough* linkin park. Well, there are some bands that still seem to be mainstrean AND good (U2, Green Day, Avenged sevenfold, although radio stations are afraid to play the latter due to being to “risky”).I just hope it gets better, because i love REAL music, and i’m starting a metal/rock band now. We have to be carefull not to become sad posers, though.

Tyler says:

only on the radio

i listen to all form of music. and yes the radio does blow. but, there is shortcoming of musical genius coming out of underground bands that i am sure most people don’t listen to. i mean look at mastodon taking metal to a new level and bands like clutch that kill live by keeping the flame of rock alive. what kills music is the crap pressed out by green day instead of music by bands like unida who can’t even find a label worth a damn.

Sextus says:

Look deeper

There are tons of great tunes out there by truly inspiring
musicians,one just has to dig for them.

Most great music these days languishes with little to no support

from ginormous labels.99% of the big label’s rosters are fodder.

Two of my recent newer faves are Amon Tobin and Four Tet.

These guys are making amazing music.

Peace

Mitch says:

95% of music today sucks

zeppelin is my favourate band, I may be only 17 but i know good music when i hear it. And all the good music can be found in the 60s and 70s. And more and more of my generation in australia ( i dont know about the us ) are picking up the classics such as Cream for eg. Very rarley do you get a decent song today. and all the good songs are not mainstream. Look a corby yates and the black keys are good exsamples of modern bands that are prouducing good music.

conclution led zeppelin, cream, pink floyd, jeffeson airplane. are the really good bands. The classics are the best

BigT says:

Yes most music does suck now

Thats why on my zune, consists of like 95% 60’s-mid 90’s music. I have some old school rap songs and 90’s rock from groops like goo goo dolls, smashmouth, etc. I’m 18 and most my age I see, like on myspace, don’t even have older artists listed in their fav. music, only new crap and stuff I never even have heard of.

But here are the bands/musicians I listen to on my zune and radio, ranging from rock to disco to old school rap(it’s a lot but I feel like postin them anyways): Beatles, ACDC, Pink Floyd, The Doors, Jimmi Hendrix, The Zombies, Sugarloaf, Zeppelin, Kiss, Eric Clapton, Peter Frampton, Bob Segar, Blue Oyster Cult, Carlos Santana, Queen, Aerosmith, Alice Cooper, Twisted Sister, Scorpions, Black Sabbath, Guns N Roses, KC and the Sunshine band, Heatwave, Bee Gees, Barry White, Marvin Gaye, Earth Wind and Fire, Dianna Ross, Gloria Gaynor, Madonna, Michael Jackson, Prince, Dire Straits, Rick James, Boyz to Men, R. Kelly, Brian McKnight, Snoop Dogg, MChammer, Beastie Boys, Goo Goo Dolls, Smashmouth, and etc.

Wide range, huh!?!? lol. But it’s all soo great!!! The kids of today and young adults like myself who don’t know who half of the musicians I mentioned, really should learn about them and listen to some of the stuff by them. They are really missing out. But that’s just my opinon. May sound weird to many but whatever, it’s just the way I feel about it.

Good Music Fan says:

My opinion on why today's music sucks

I’m not a musician, but I have questions and opinions.

Did Beatles have good voices?

The pioneers are always at a great advantage over the later comers.

As for today’s music, there is more bad than good. By my opinion the main reasons are:

1. Musical variants, musical note/score variations, musical combinations of sounds (whatever it’s called) have been exhausted in just 50 years.
There not much left to play without getting sued by previous song authors.

2. Today’s musicians have less “soul” or that “special feel” about them. Perhaps because there’s less poverty, they are well fed and visually more fat/overweight.

3. An overweight person can have a good voice, perhaps sing opera, but if the whole or most of the group or ensemble is overwhelmingly overweight and grow goatees (making the 20-30 year olds look like they are 55 year old country singers). To me personally fat people with short hair don’t look good on the scene.
I like the skinny tough-faced long haired guys who jump the scene with good music, not some overweigt sissies with goatees singing pee music that all sounds the same.

4. Celebrity craze is killing the music.

5. SOUL of the PLACE is as important as a SOUL of the MUSICIAN. That “something in the air” that’s missing so often.

6. Everything else (the vacuum) is filled up with C/RAP.

This is my opinion. I may be wrong, but this is how I feel.

Packrat says:

Music

If my analasys of musical history is correct, this seems to happen every generation. A period of commercialized gobbldiegook rules the market for a while then an underground backlash breaks into the main stream for a little while. I am 25 years old, a graduate of F&M college, with an anthropology degree. I am the lead singer in a band in new york city. i was too young to fully experience the grunge scene in its entirety but i was old enough to understand it and listen to the bands. I hope that someday soon that DIY punk rock underground ethic, whatever you wanna call it, comes back to the surface. That is the stuff that movements are made of. It doesnt neccesarily have to be a sound or an emotion. It’s called walking the line, you have to walk the line in order to make your art palatable to an audience, stray too far one way or another and you miss your mark. The most influential artists over the years were not always the most technical musicians, but just really good, really passionate, soulfull, artists, who managed to walk the line. If history serves me correct, every 20 years there is a backlash of some sort against the commercialized hooey that the mainstream puts out. Hopefully we are coming up on that…cuz if it doesnt happen soon, i dont know how much longer i can survive in a world without music.

Judas_Priest_Fan says:

MODERN MUSIC DOES SUCK

I was born in 1991, and I agree, 95% of modern music DOES suck total a$$. I can only think of 5-7 bands that I like that would be considered “modern”. Bands like Judas Priest, Iron Maiden, Metallica, Dokken, Scorpions, and W.A.S.P…that’s where the good music’s at. But I can’t agree that most of my friends and peers think this. Most of them are mindless drones that listen to complete crap that makes no sense and sounds like it took 5 minutes to record. They don’t know what good music is…I tell my parents everyday that I wish I was born 25 years earlier, because I was born with the wrong generation.

Carman Briscoe says:

Modern Music Sucks

Yes, it does suck. But, maybe it’s because we’ve heard all of the possible combinations’s that are possible. Maybe, we have come to the end of the string. That, perhaps is a little scary. The next step must be a quantum leap. Is rock dead? Is the need to create music dead, or do we need to research all the music that has been produced, but we have’nt heard? I think that we could be a little bit better in learning our past.

Steven Scott (user link) says:

interesting article...

On most points I agree. I grew up in the 80’s (as far as music goes) and, of course, there was crap then but now it seems to have gotten much much worse. Where is the passion…the love for what you do? The lyrics or melodys that give me goosebumps? Every once in a while it does happen…no wait…actually it doesnt. I cant recall when it has in along time, as far as new music goes.
The key element is music is passion, a true love for what you do. I love living in America but frankly we are so money hungry and celebebrity hungry that we have destroyed ourselves, as far as music goes….and it really sucks as I am in the local music scene in New england and I must say I have met and seen some great bands who will never be heard cause they cant afford it.

I hope you all continue to discuss this.
-Steve
mindsetx.com

mike nguyen says:

today music does suck

seriously, there will be no other modern music that will be compared to oldies. and to the ppl that like classic rock and say that its all badass and creative and original, i believe u guys. but not a lot of ppl have a say to music before classic rock. what about blues and jazz music huh? without those music, there wouldnt be classic rock. the fact is led zeppelin is one of the most respected band ever. u know why? its because they r influenced by older music, then they use those qualities of jazz and blues with their own stuff to deliver to everyone. and thats how ppl love led zeppelin. so what im saying is that jazz music pave the way for classic rock and that ppl should have a say to jazz music. jazz is better than classic rock. but i would say that classic rock is good quality music too.

whats weird to me is that when i look at modern bands today, they r trying to be like the zeppelins. the drum beats is simular to bonham’s beat. i can tell cause im myself a drummer. and a lot of guitarist own the les paul gibson that looks kinda like jimmy page’s. lol but u know what that has nothing to do with the topic anyways soo… haha yea enough said

Jimmy says:

Recent Music that doesn't suck

Well for starters there very little of it. But just by chance I found a singer from the UK named Jamie Cullum who in my opinion is totally awesome and original. I highly recommend checking into him if you like jazzy piano and soul in your music. Also I think Jack Johnson has a lot of good music to groove to. Counting Crows is good stuff too. Besides that I stick to classic rock mostly. David Gilmoure put out a new album called ON AN ISLAND that is really awesome and mellow, so if your a Pink Floyd fan you have to check it out. But yeah, basically modern music sucks. Sad really

Guitar Player for life ! says:

Today's Music

Music has and always will be subjective. It’s an audible art form or at least some of it still is and whether I personally like something or not, contemporary music is a barometer for the generation it speaks to, and for. This is not a new concept. Unfortunately, music performance is being usurped by feeding audiences with more visual than audible. Peformance art and music are not the same.

All that being said, two things should be very apparent. One, the young generations are very angry. Two, they simply lack a broader influence. In my view, neither aspect is their fault and for the older generations who share their love for music with the younger generations, thank-you. Giving back does wonders.

In some cases, repeating history is good, like with some styles of music, but usually this is translated more by influence rather than direct copy. For those musicians who blatantly copy what has come before, shame on you. What a diservice. Sell-outs !

Music is also just like nature and it has a way of working itself out of a funk, no pun intended, really. It must evolve or devolve but again, influence is paramount to keeping a link to the past. I should add that novelty music will always whore itself out to the unsuspecting public and they will of course eat it up. That is one aspect of music that should in fact, go away. It has such a destructive watering down effect.

Clearly the major record executives are facing an industry-wide nose dive of their own making and real musicians are not to blame. Well, maybe the sell-outs but they have always been around to suck what’s leftover from the spoiled cream, but I digress.

Show’s like American Idhole, however popular, have further entrenched the young consumer into a brainwashed state of mind and the record execs like “Simon Says” will lavishly feed on their ignorance. Lemmings make great consumers. Again, no blame can go to the young generation who is being fed this garbage. They didn’t get to this point all by themselves. Perhaps the national vacumm in public music eduction in our schools should share the blame, but who voted this program out in the first place?

I directly hold accountable the parents who encourage this electronic American Idhole fanstasy but I also know how to pour sand into a rat hole.

For those that do care, slowly expose your children to all kinds of music and don’t force them into or away from any one genre. Once they experience your love for a certain style or for a time period, they too will add it to their naturally progressing music education.

We are very close to a point of no return with good music as as whole so act now !

Anonymous Coward says:

modern music is fake

Oh where to begin, well first off I don’t think it has anything to do with what year that band played or started but rather the music industrys refusal to play any form of music that might make people think or might challenge society. Instead they choose to play mindless pop that is labled as punk,metal or anyother form of antiestablishment music. What i’m trying to say is that most modern day music is synthetic and fake.

Anonymous Coward says:

modern music is fake

Oh where to begin, well first off I don’t think it has anything to do with what year that band played or started but rather the music industrys refusal to play any form of music that might make people think or might challenge society. Instead they choose to play mindless pop that is labled as punk,metal or anyother form of antiestablishment music. What i’m trying to say is that most modern day music is synthetic and fake.

Anonymous Coward says:

modern music is fake

Oh where to begin, well first off I don’t think it has anything to do with what year that band played or started but rather the music industrys refusal to play any form of music that might make people think or might challenge society. Instead they choose to play mindless pop that is labled as punk,metal or anyother form of antiestablishment music. What i’m trying to say is that most modern day music is synthetic and fake. Also My Chemical Romance sucks balls.

FocS says:

Modern music is horrible and here is the reason wh

Its actually really simple as to why the quility of music has decayed over the years, record companies using marketing stratagies that relate to the youth, music is used to sell products and vice versa. For example rap groups can rap about a certain sneaker and when it hits the mainstream media, kids want the sneakers and they listen to the music because it is now wideley accepted as cool. Another example is the razr phone, the phone become trendy and along with it the song. Now because such horrible songs become mainstream, there is less effort in music productiton thus resulting in mediocre music that becomes wideley accepted. There is no room for “wierd” and unique music becuase the music industry is dominated by sales and what is sold becomes the standard for the generation. That is why any joe and bob thats been in a movie or whatever, releases an album to make money, with no effort. Because artists feel that they dont need to put much effort into it, the quility of music falls. there are a few great artists now but only a handful. There was alot of crappy music from the 60s-90s but there was 10 good songs for every crappy one. Now there are 20 crappy songs and one good one. All genres including rap were far better decades ago. And that is why I Believe the music of today blows except for a few exceptions.

Brazilian Bastard says:

Man youre 100% Right,but you all in America,you Americans,MUST stop this 2000´s today pop “Crapmusic” that spreads around the world like a desease,a modern desease.During The 50´s 60´s 70´s 80´s and even 90´s(gosh,lotsa a “´s”signals),rap,rock,pop,dance,reggae,all of this styles INCLUDES MUSICAL LINES INSIDE.Today what we have?FAKE hip hop,FAKE rock,FAKE alternative,FAKE AND FAKE again.THE MAIN Guilty:RECORD COMPANIES,and TODAY S RECORD EXECUTIVES and”Producers”,stop this people,Boicott today s “artists”,send them to a real hell,and after that bring some musical specialists to work again,i think record companies today are selling more with DRUG TRAFFIC than selling records.You All in America that enjoys Good Music,does not matter the style,get the power to create Organizations and kick very deep the fashionist s executives asses.

hahahaha..your all nimrods says:

shut up and find it...your arguements are all piti

the black keys, white stripes,kings of leon, libertines, babyshambles,muse,pinback,elliot smith, iron and wine,the decemberist, the strokes,, secret machines,atmosphere, the shins,spoon, nic armstrong, irving,ween,ben kweller, charlie parr..look them up..anyone of these groups can compete with your so called classic music from the past generations…By the way most of your bands from the 60’s and early 70’s rockers were strongly influenced by artists like howlin wolf, blind lemon jefferson,robert johnson ect. hell zeppelin(although great musicians) got in trouble for copy right infringement on more than one song..thats how music goes. by the way U2, eagles,bob segar, bruce springsteen sucks balls ..To say that music today sucks is ignorant…so they played better music on the radio in the past big f!@#in deal…today because of clearchannel good music isnt just handed to you, you have to find it..boy that real difficult cuz i bet half you cant use the internet.. bitch and wine about the past it aint comin back and never will, move on..nobody gives a shit about your hippie peace movements,your womens rights..the summer of love never existed its all bullshit. You are all the cause of what wrong with the world..if the music sucks make your own thats better and more inventive.

Passion For Music says:

Re: shut up and find it...your arguements are all

I was born in 1951 and have been a fan and an active participant in music for approximately 45 years. My mp3 collection is 14,000 strong totaling around 80GB. My 22 year old daughter?s mp3 library pales in comparison to mine because I listen to a wide variety of genres and her music vocabulary is just beginning to develop. My library includes such diverse artists as Igor Stravisnky, Frederic Chopin, Richard Wagner, Claude Debussy, Duke Ellington, Count Basie, Louis Armstrong, Django Rheinhardt, Charlie Christian, Charlie Parker, Miles Davis, John Coltrane, Elvis Presley, Buddy Holly, Motown (way too many artists to name), Beatles, Beach Boys, Jan & Dean, Led Zeppelin, Cream, Jimi Hendrix, Queen, Yes, Genesis, King Crimson, Kansas, Styx, Earth, Wind & Fire, Parliament-Funkadelic, Chick Corea, John McLaughlin?s Mahavishnu Orchestra, George Duke, Frank Zappa, Weather Report, Red-Hot Chili Peppers, The Tubes, Van Halen, and many other artists that you?ve probably never heard of.

The one thing that all of these genres have in common is that each one is built on the same twelve note system. The frustration for today?s artists lies in the fact that they are forced to attempt to shock their fans either visually or with a barrage of explicit lyrics because all of the ideas surrounding that twelve note system were used up years ago. These two items are no longer shocking, they are simply annoying. MTV, a somewhat novel idea at first, slowly shifted the audience?s focus from the music to manufactured imagery and creativity has been on the decline ever since.

Every generation has had its share of awful music, whether they want to admit it or not. Bad music transcends generations but today?s music industry seems to be overrun with individuals who have never studied the craft, yet have managed to jump on the money making bandwagon. I have no desire to return to the past so that I can turn on my radio and listen to ?These Boots Are Made for Walking? by Nancy Sinatra. (ONE OF THE WORST SONGS EVER RECORDED)???If not for her famous father?s name, that record never would have seen the light of day.

In closing, I?d like to say that I don?t know many people my age that can?t use the internet because members of the so-called ?summer of love? generation were around during the ARPANET project in 1969. That project laid the groundwork for the development of TCP/IP and eventually the internet as we know it today. I am more than capable of utilizing all that the web has to offer but I?m not going to spend hours and hours searching it?s hidden corners, working my way through all of the awful music that?s out there to seek out the few bands (and they do exist) that can really play. It will be very interesting when this same conversation is taking place in the year 2047 when your generation is attempting to defend today?s ?music? against whatever art form carries that title then.

PEACE

guitarzan says:

the genre has shot its wad...

the state of music these days really is depressing. i have extraordinarily eclectic taste in music. always have (i inherited that trait from my mom). i genuninely LOVE a lot of tunes from ALMOST every genre (i’m not crazy about opera. but i can “appreciate” that one really famous song that enrico caruso sang; and one or two tunes from carmen).

i really don’t think my age has a whole lot to do with it. even when i was a teenager – with all the peer pressure to like only what your peers told you to like – if i heard a new tune, it didn’t matter what era it came from or how old the artist was; or what race they were; or what sex they were; or what their political stance was; if it was a good tune, and it appealed to me, i was hooked.

i always have an open mind to new music. i WANT to like new music. there are bands and songwriters who – “on paper” – i should like. bands i WANT to like. i mean, i read their interviews and reviews in the music press. and as i read, i think, “hmmmm, they sound interesting…they say they’re influenced by some of my favorite bands and songwriters”. but then when i actually hear them, i am invariably disappointed at how mediocre, tuneless and unmusical they actually sound.

one theory that i have about why most current bands and songwriters are so mediocre, is because song-craftmanship is not “The Thing” anymore. it seems like, the most important thing for most artists these days is lyrics. NOT interesting melodies; not interesting rhythms; NOT interesting sounds; NOT the tension and release that effects you on a subtle, almost magical level; NOT the harmonies that make the song sound pleasing to the ear.

i’m not saying that lyrics shouldn’t be important. i’m saying that it seems like artists these days aren’t that interested in crafting INSPIRED, interesting songs that are musically interesting to listen to; it sounds like they are more interested in singing very wordy and self-indulgent lyrics because they mistake “being creative” with “having something to say”. the music just seems to be there simply as coincidental, tertiary, generic accompaniment to the lyrics.

as much as we all hate to admit it, its looking like we have to face up to the fact that “rock ‘n roll” as a genre (including pop, indy, alternative, metal, rap, r&b, electronica, etc.) has shot its wad. in the same way that opera, classical, jazz
and blues have shot their wads. the days when classical composers were coming up with fresh, exciting musical ideas is past. it is rare to find an artist in classical (or opera or blues or jazz) that is coming up with never-before-heard-of, ground-breaking ideas. that’s because the genre has matured to the point where anything that anybody does now will invariably sound like something that has already been done before (and done much, much better). likewise rock/pop stuff written now just sounds like its going over the same old hackneyed ground (but with different, more wordy lyrics). “rock n roll” is in a similar stage of life as classical or opera or blues or jazz. (again, i include pop, r&b, metal, rap, indy, techno, whatever, in the same general category of “rock ‘n roll”)

Steve says:

I COMPLETELY AGREE WITH THIS ARTICLE. Music these days just really doesnt have the same stuff. When you look back to all the artists in the 60’s, 70’s, 80’s, and early 90’s, it was much better. They incorporated real life events and good quality into awesome music. Today’s music is filled with sex, drug abuse, swearing, retarded lyrics, screaming, violence, and off beats. There is screamo, where all they do is blast music and scream and grunt into a microfone. I cannot stand that stuff at all. Then there is rap,the second most retarded type of music. Most people only like it because their friends like it. Anybody can talk about chicks and drugs in their songs and rhyme that last words, that is what MOST of rap is. Its ridiculous. They have NO TALENT. And then there is alternative rock. Bands who sing alternative rock try too hard to impress chicks, alot of it sounds the same, and all they talk about in their songs is girls and really stupid stuff. Classic rock is the way to go. I do not care who you are, i am not going to respect your opinion on this one. Bands such as The Beatles, Tom Petty, Bob Seger, The Who, The Rolling Stones, Billy Joel, Eric Clapton, Bruce Springsteen, John Mellencamp, Bob Dylan…they all deserve to be heroes of music. Their songs mean something and actually sounds good. That is why they are all in the Rock “n” roll hall of fame and all ranked under the top 100 music artists of all time….because they are GOOD.

Dallas says:

Re: Re:new bands arent all bad

what about hair metal? I agree with you on all the other artists you named and in the late 90s music really started to die. But there are exceptions with bands today and im not talking about those stupid emo bands or those other no talent artists you mentioned. But there are bands (mostly underground or unheard of) that are actually good. They are not played on the radio and that is probably why you dont know about them. I know with the band trivium, though they did used to scream(but on the new album they do not) they are actually very musically talented and on their new cd especially their lyrics are about politics,violence, etc. Now they are not for everyone, just like a lot of bands. But my point is that if you look you will find something good out there today.

….I recommend a band named preachers gun who are underground at the moment. video can be found on youtube under preachersgun……..

Gabe Mambo says:

We're to blame too

It’s our fault that it has come to this. Who do you think buys this bullshit? We do. We do and kill off the music industry because of it. We want to say that music is just different, but it isn’t. It’s alright for music to advance, but it can’t just suck. As music fans, we suck too. We listen for a good beat, but then we forget that the whole point of music is to listen to the words. Dammit, we can’t just like a song with a good beat. It shows lazy, bad taste, and we need to stop listening to it.

miss jackson.im am for real says:

babyshambles is for depressed queers,babyshambles fans and indie pop queers,please!shot yourselves like kurt cobain, and get out of music, babyshambles fans feel pain in their asses with emo-roids,thats it,i hope a lots of a gangsta real niggers shot these bastards with a million bullets..

MTV SUCKS Ass,DEATH TO MTV,MTV SUCKS EMO SUCKS EMO SUCKS,LETS BURN THE CDS IN SOME SUPERBOWL

ryan says:

modern music blows

do you want to know how we have had great bands in the past, in the “oldie” days? The kids, like me, decided they wanted to play music to their liking, that fit them, and took what they knew- their oldies and molded it into something they enjoyed. Eventually when enough kids did this we had the great music of the 60’s through the 90’s. the same will go for today. if enough people play the music and get off their asses and stop complaining, groups will start breaking through with new sounds. to all of the older generation on this site, you have your oldies, listen to them. to all the young kids like me on this site, get off your ass and make your music. complaining never does anything, you have to change individually to change en masse

Leo Sayer says:

today s music still sucks

Ryan,you is just a queer!get out if your “modern”(gayish)music concepts(in the past,the”non straight”people like freddie mercury or elton john are musicians,now,what we have?punky indie poop heads),burn in hell your fucking fake alternative dumbasses,like a sad before,shoot yourselves like kurt cobain did(i think he is the main responsible togheter with “executives”(drug traffickers)for today s”music” sucks preety much.MTV=pop fascism,rap=c-rap,britney spears=more crap,eminem=vanilla ice,how to start to kill these people?

MTV demolition Night says:

Lets Do it

We need to protest againist all this pop shit made by mtv lets go to make a hip hop demolition night,punkpoop sucks,hip hop sucks,mtv sucks
lets scream lout
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Chris says:

It's true

Kids have a choice between listening to modern popular music or the music that their parents listened to and they are choosing the latter. Now why would kids listen to old music if the new popular music was better or at least on par with the old music?

Mainstream music has been garbage since the mid 90s when Korn and Limp Bizkit demonstrated that you don’t need talent to become a multi-millionaire in the music business. All you need is a gimmick. Every mainstream type of music nowadays is based on image. Possibly the most extreme example is “gangsta” rap, in which you cannot get a record deal unless you have a criminal record. All pop music talks about is sex and failed relationships. Emo is the most retarded thing I’ve ever seen. And modern mainstream rock consists of watered-down, talentless, boring, stand-for-nothing bands with no balls like Nickelback and 3 Doors Down. And crappy retro bands like Jet.

The only good bands nowadays are underground metal and indie bands. Everything else is targeted at brainless idiots.

Anonymous Coward says:

YOU ARE ALL INSUFFURABLE!

GOD why would anyone with an Internet connection say “Today’s music sucks”? Go to allmusic.com , try Last.fm , use google for the love of god.

Yes, the radio and MTV don’t know jack about what the people want, and people are slowly abandoning them because of it.

also, anyone who says that they hate all (ALL) mainstream music, is just trying to be cool.

Hating a band because of their image, or hating a band because of there childish fanbase, are NOT GOOD REASONS TO HATE A BAND.

The only right way to properly judge music, is by listening to a lot of music, and comparing quality.

Richard Simmons says:

Freeze!Anonymous Coward!

Ok,Lets Make a”Internet crappy music Demolition Night”(or day,if you are in japan),and NO,WERE NOT TRYING TO BE COOL,WE HAVE GOOD MUSICAL TASTE!!:
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Nick says:

we know

I can say with extreme confidence that today it takes very little talent to become popular in the music industry. This new generation of shit music has come to be because of the birth of what is known as the “LG”. For those of you who don’t know, an LG, by definition, is: Little 14 and 15 year old girls who go to college parties to look cool, steal alcohol and get sex from as many guys as possible. Now these girls didn’t know it at the time. But they spawned an entire era of shitty artists. For example: Rhianna, Pussycat Dolls, etc… By supporting these untalented peices of shit, they have left the billboards full of forgetable songs. Some people don’t know where the music has gone. well I can tell you. It’s in the hearts of men and women with instruments in their hands. I’m a listener of all music. Some genres of music are still going strong like rap and hip hop. Other genres like rock and roll are starting to fade away. Sure the big bands from way back when are still touring, but for how long? Eventually, they will need to be replaced. I hope I can contribute. Peace.

revanger (user link) says:

Indie sucks

Lets try to kick some dirty asses here
you are a just a Indie Queer,anonymous coward,
typical of indie/emo turds,if everybody that is reading
it are tired of the”homossexualization”of “rock”today
lets start a war,one here right now,if you see a emo
or indie or another mtv spawn on street,kick his ass
or kill him with a gun,period.Its time to change this game
now its the time,lets unite our forces to stop this
assholes,cause they deserve it and are begging for it.
no place for this suckers anymore,its time to fight for
real.We Will Never forgive this people in generations,and when they will get older,they will known as the main guilt for XXI century s music idiotisczism.so Kill them all
INDIE SUCKS!!!

MOLON-LAVE says:

Musicians that have left a mark

The Beatles, The rolling Stones, The Doors, The Who, Fleetwood Mac, Bob Dylan, The Clash, Cat Stevens, Led Zeppelin, Queen, Lynard Skynard, Elton John, Stevie Wonder, Jimi Hendrix and the list would go on

pretty much anything made in the 00’s is unoriginal,and a complete sell-out, the artists are used to portray an image by the record companies to brainwash all the tweenies who look for a role model in the impressionable lives.

MOLON-LAVE says:

Musicians that have left a mark

The Beatles, The rolling Stones, The Doors, The Who, Fleetwood Mac, Bob Dylan, The Clash, Cat Stevens, Led Zeppelin, Queen, Lynard Skynard, Elton John, Stevie Wonder, Jimi Hendrix and the list would go on

pretty much anything made in the 00’s is unoriginal,and a complete sell-out, the artists are used to portray an image by the record companies to brainwash all the tweenies who look for a role model in the impressionable lives.

Destroy record companies says:

Kick executives s asses

Dont Forget to kick,hit with a baseball bat,all the
so called music industry executives and owners.ThEse
Assholes are the guilt,they must pay,i cursed them for
ever,we need a record companies demolition night,Death
to Sony,warner,Universal,Sub Pop,EMI,all this shit
boycott,sabotage&attack!!thats the key..

RECORD LABELS CONTROL OUR CULTURE says:

I probably dont think like you but we're fighting

We need a new scene, President Bush polluting us with his emo-licious ways and his dried up ridiculous gangsta rap. I think music is the way it is because of the state of mind people are in, call it post 9/11, war in iraq, shit-fest, proud to be an Amerikkkan, everyone is wrong on the interwebs, why is everything the god damn same,”time” if you will. It just things needs to change in order for music to change and actually expose the phonies for who they are and be ridiculed for it, kinda what happened to hair bands of the 80’s and boy bands of the 90’s for example. And really MAINSTREAM is and always will be a Market for untalented hacks and actual artists that deserve it. Music is a matter of opinion but EVEN A DEAD BRAIN SHIT HEAD CAN SPOT PHONY CON-ARTISTS with they’re fake everything. And why does MTV even stand for MUSIC TELEVISION, more like REALITY TELEVISION, and even that’s fake. FUCK IT WITH A STICK……………………..soon is all i can say, I mean music changes all the time right?

Kristen says:

My Opinion About Music

I definitely agree that music nowadays sucks! I’m only 15 and I listen to all oldies especially from the ’60s and ’70s. Music isn’t about qualitity anymore. The music industry nowadays only cares about who is going to make the best profit for them and don’t give a rat’s ass if they can sing or not. Image is such a worshipped thing in today’s society. If you’re a good-looking, young guy or girl then you’ll be a singer even if you don’t have any talent. Everything is about someone’s outward appearance in today’s society. And then people can’t understand why there is so much violence but yet the media promotes kids to listen to this rap crap and emo screamo shit where all they talk about is sex, drugs, violence, rape, murder, etc. Most kids I talk to in my highschool don’t like rap and emo music. I’m a girl and I am offended by how women are viewed as like we’re a piece of meat in a pair of jeans. Music shouldn’t be about looks. If that’s the case sign all these attractive wannabe singers up for modeling because music is the about the quality of a voice, not someone’s outward appearance. So bring back the legends like Billy Joel, Queen, Aerosmith, ABBA, REO Speedwagon, Bryan Adams, Tommy James and the Shondells, and all the other great oldies bands!!!! Peace out – Kristen from Ohio

Kyndal says:

Im 15 also and i totally agree. I only listen to a select few songs that are “top hits”. 50’s – 90’s was good. Rap is terrible and artists like soulja boy,chris brown, miley cyrus, panic at the disco, fall out boy, flo rida, and the jonas brothers. are just bad. I;m not saying its all bad, i like rihanna, colbie calliat & nickelback are good. But older music is soo much better. 60’s classic rock like led zeppelin and pink floyd, 70’s soft rock like 3 dog night and the eagles, 80’s pop and hair bands like genesis, journey, motley crue and bon jovi and 90’s alternative rock like red hot chili peppers, sublime, & blink-182. I love it all. It sucks that other kids my age, only like what they hear on the radio or see on tv. theyre so influenced by the media. It makes me sick, after 2 weeks theyre favorite song is old and sucks.

nick says:

todays rock music

I have noticed every song sounding the same. Every song that is NOT a rap song has the “singer” WHINING the lyrics. So, it is either fast rap, or slow whining. Alicia Keys is a very good piano player, but I give her an F- on her voice. What ever happened to actual singing? That is one problem in today’s music…

Jeze says:

Todays Music

I don’t agree with you whatsoever. First of today’s music is totally different than back then. Both generations of music have great artists with musical talent. But most of today’s music that is mainstream sucks. Its al played out with no real content or meaning and is just plain shallow.
Its all imitation of other artists and if you really listen to the lyrics, you’ll see that most people just like the beat{because its so great:( }.Man,even the shows about searching for female and male singers or the best bands sucks. Almost all of mainstream music that is on tv, radio, movie soundtracks,and more is pure garbage. They are just songs purely for ringtones,and club songs to dance to. Music used to much more than that.Also I don’t know what rappers you hear or listen to somewhat. But rap music is an art form just like rock,gospel, pop, r&b, country, opera, reggaeton, reggae and more. You’re just probably hearing or listening to the mainstream rap which I agree with a lot of people is pure garbage with the exception of a few.

Jeze says:

Americans are losers

I agree with you 99%, with the exception about American being losers, I myself am American. I am a 14 year old black female who loves rap and rock(much more also). I see how music is being destroyed, little kids dancing to soulja boy, white boys and black boys tryna be gansta, and girls exposing themselves thinking its cute(not) all because of this crap. I also agree with you on Linkin Park. An ol’ friend of mine told me about them in the elem. school. Although I didn’t catch on for a while I began to fall in love with the group a few months later. I know people who will know their songs like “numb, faint,in the end” and a few more and thats it. If your a true fan of music you know more than the songs on the radio and music chanels or any that’s just popular.Whether you buy the albums or not you should no more than the 3 or 4 songs. BUT what scares and annoys me at the same time,is that so may of my friends are oblivious to this.Some of them actually think Lil Wayne is the best rappper(not),T-pain is a lyrical and music genius(HELLnot), Ne-Yo and Chris Brown are the best r&b artists(not), Fallout Boy is awesome(not).Mariah Carey is the hotter than ever(not, was before THOUGH). Nas and others said it themselves, Hip-Hop is dead. But its all music thats dead NOW.

deven says:

We're to blame too (partly)

it’s true people like to listen to the beat. ive found reasons for this and i may be right or wrong but it’s because of this insatiable thirst for RAP/HIPHOP. where the “musick” is defined by the style of beat, mainly drum…wait, ALWAYS drum. now everybody thinks a catchy beat will get you a guarunteed % of listeners, whether black, white or green. it’s cross-ethnic blending and its fuckin sickening.

lyrics are not always what makes a good song, beethoven for expample? bach? zeppelin’s stairway to heaven where the lyrics make almost no sense but MATCH THE FEEL OF THE INSTRUMENTS.

FUCK MONEY FUCK MONEY! FUCK..THE..MONEY..FEEL MUSIC AND FREE OUR MIND HOURS ON END, CAN YOU DO THAT WITH YOUR PANIC AT THE DISCO SHIT ???????????????

deven says:

music industries hurt

I read this entire page, the fuck is wrong with me? anyways man i wanna let everyone know MAINSTREAM music(not all new music) SUCKS a fat one. im 21 yrs old and am so sure music will change but goddamn this is such a grim period for impressionable music. its consumerism at its finest and crap music at its peak(i hope so). when will this shit end man?
I’m not gonna type in all the fuckin bands i listen to like a medal of honor cause theres not enough time in the day. lets just say my highlights are beethoven, metallica, and everley brothers haha 😀
Every one of you have made a damn good point: society is all about your fuckin image! AH!!!!!. i swear these fuckin pixelated black letters in forms of words do not even come close to the feelings i have for society and these fuckin drones walking around like they are the baddest fuckin speck of shit ever washed ashore from a shit ship. the fuck is with these egotistical people? they are so goddamn wrapped up in themselves (americans, and yes i am american) and its goddamn worthy of a fat slap in our fat fuck nations face for all i care. i love this country but please, clean out your polluted, diluted, watered down, screaming, whiny, gangster wannabe, bling bling cha ching, limited power chord playin ASS and let the real talent get the spotlight you fuckin pricks!

I am so FUCKING PISSED OFF! YO, YOU WATCH THE NEWS LATELY?

…there was actually a headline on the news that shocked me like a fuckin’ light socket. the top story of that time was, yes get ready…”Is Britney Spears one of the Top American Cultural Icons”

WHAT

THE

FUCK?

i dont even want to get started on “NEWS” and them mainstream, money hungry, cock suckers.

save music people, i am willing to storm center field next superbowl, and burn emo cd’s and take a shit on every last one of them with you!

please contact me if you wanna discuss or vent/share ideas or philosophy 😀

Prunella says:

There still is a lot of good music today

There is still plenty of great music being made today. It may not be found on Radio or TV, but you can find a lot of non-generic music on the internet to try out.

Radio and TV music is for kids, so grow up and move on to a different venue. You did it with Sesame Street and other kiddie shows you use to watch when you were young and don’t watch anymore, so the same thing applies to where you use to get your music from, move on and come out of your state of arrested development where music is concerned.

Pru

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Mike Bane says:

I have to agree that today’s music sucks.

And music execs have been pointing the finger at P2P downloads, but the truth is that today’s music is really bad.

Don’t believe me? name me one great song in the last 8 years? Quick!!! See..I can’t name one that fast.

Music in the late 60’s was good. In the 70’s it was really good, and the 80’s, guess it depends how much you liked 70’s music, but there were a lot of great albums and bands in the 80’s. So much so that bands back than would sell out stadiums in a couple of hours. Name one band today that can do that? Not to mention that everyone knows music from those past decades. That alone is testament to how good was. And it still plays on the radio constantly. Why is that?

Than the 90’s came along and the music industry never seemed to recover from the grundge movement. In the mid 90’s there were bands like Oasis, The Cranberries, and Radiohead that tried to revive the industry but record execs only cared about the likes of Britney and teen pop “sensations” and completely forgot about music altogether.

And when music sales started declining, instead of blaming themselves for their incompetence in finding talent, they pointed the finger at the internet and P2P.

The truth is people have stopped buying albums because every album these days only has 1 or 2 decent songs which by the way, get forgotten in a matter of months. When was the last time anyone bought an album and said “man, this is destined to be a classic”?

Why pay $15.00 for one decent song when that song can be easily downloaded?

Even my 16 year old brother has a hard time finding good music these days. A quick look in his ipod and I can see a large collection of 80’s music, some late 70’s and a bit from the 90’s but not much from this past decade. And looking at his cds, I can see a AC/DC, Scorpion, Oasis, U2…but nothing recent.

haz says:

The mainstream is constantly scraping up the same old formulas for music production and forcing crap down peoples throats, almost everything in popular music is derivative and unoriginal. It has gotten to a point people who normally don’t concern themselves which such thoughts are noticing it.

There are artists on the fringe of the mainstream, independent and underground acts who are pushing the boundaries of great music. Granted, most of these will not appeal to your casual mainstream radio listener but since creating a great song with pop hooks has been done to death its no wonder most stuff today is shite.

Anonymous Coward says:

Homomusicality

I think you guys don’t mean music sucks today, I think you mean it’s just all the same.

Examples – Back in the 80’s, you had tons of different genres of music
• Rock
• Rap
• Funk
• Disco
• Jazz
• Hair Metal
• Punk
• (My fav) New Wave
And tons of different styles that I don’t have the time to name. The problem is one day, some idiot at MTV heard a specific kind of music, (Rap) and said “I like that, let’s just play that on our channel.” Thing is, the station isn’t called RTV, and with the industry shoving it down our throats. People now really don’t watch MTV, but back then, when rap took over, people still watched because of its goodness years back, and stil, lets say, trusted it. Well, you had these nine-year-olds and ten-year-olds watching MTV, and if you listen to anything enough, you’ll start to love it, no matter how much you originally hated it. (Which is how I got my friends to like it…. Ahahaha I’m so evil lolz) Okay so, the kids liked what they saw and, (Suprise!) tried to copy it. The real problem is since they all tried to copy it, you have 500,000 copies of the same song sung by different people. Don’t get me wrong, there IS good music out there, it’s just hiding in the shadows. BTW, I’m thirteen.

P.S – To the dude who said Americans suck:
Wanna get a brain cuz apparently you don’t have one… you’re just a stereotypical jerk who blames all of his problems on the government. Get a life and stop whining on the Internet. If you want to make a difference then get off the computer.

Will says:

Modern Music CAN be good.

This is an interesting debate, and I can see that there is a degree of hostility towards modern music as a whole. As with everything, though, you should avoid using absolutes. To suggest that ALL modern music “sucks” is facile, and suggests a lack of knowledge and of experience from the person who declares it. On the other hand, there is a definite argument that much of it re-hashed, reconstituted rubbish, which would not see the light of day if the music industry were driven by talent and not money.

Examples of this recycled culture abound. Samuel Barber’s Adagio for strings is a classic that we’ve probably all heard and can relate to. Some might say it’s overplayed, but regardless it’s one of the greats. What happens in today’s music industry is that people like DJ Tiesto and similar “artists” remix their work. This is fine when used in clubs for something to rave to, but the problem comes when it is put forward as art in it’s own right and we’re expected to listen to it in our homes, where there’s no trippy lighting or ecstasy, and we realise that the music itself is poor at best. Meanwhile, so much money has already been made out of this music in its original setting, that this is the music the radio stations and music channels push. As far as the statistics are concerned this is the music the people want, so this is what the people are given. People are becoming so naturalised to this process that it has become seemingly unstoppable.

R’n’B and Metal are two other examples, showing a different way in which music has become watered down. In both these genres there seems to have been a decline in originality, not necessarily bands copying songs but reducing them down to only the parts that were widely popular and thus coming out with repetetive sounding, moronic rubbish. When I listen to the likes of Evanescence and Usher today – mainstream examples of each of the aforementioned genres – or at least this is what we’re told they are, I hear the basics of rhythms and melodies that made bands like Pantera famous, but without any of the personality that made them great.

But never fear, the end is NOT nigh! There are plenty of great bands out there! Being a fan of the metal scene myself I can assure you that the metal world in particular is cooking up a storm. With bands such as Wintersun and Children of Bodom pushing the technical limits of the guitar further than ever before (hear Jari Maenpaa’s solo on Death and the Healing by Wintersun for examples, just search for Wintersun on myspace music), we also see other bands showing increasing maturity. Opeth is one band that pushes the boundaries of their genre beyond what is normally expected, and their deeply disturbing lyrics and melodies will send a shiver through any spine with a few nerves left in it after the 90s. The digital age has allowed such bands more exposure than they would have ever seen in the so-called “glory years” of music back in the 60s. When Death Metal originally came out in the 80s it was regarded with contempt from much of the music industry, and was an underground movement from start to finish. Now, in the 00s it is making a recovery, extreme metal is surfacing in a much more aggressive guise, and it is beginning to be regarded with respect. You have all been calling for a new genre to emerge, and this may well be it. You will probably find you don’t like it if you are of the previous generation. But your parents didn’t like your music either.

So there we have it. Modern music can be good, actually. I have focused on the metal scene because that is what I know in depth, but be assured there are similar movements within all the varied sections of music. If you are determined to focus on the mainstream and mediocre so be it, but YOU will be the ones missing out. You tell my generation that we are missing out on your over-hyped, over-played golden oldies, but I say it is you who are missing out, by your stubborn refusal to research anything new which you do not understand beyond surface level. There is a world of amazing new music out there, if only you would try and find it. But I speak futility. You will continue to listen to the same bands from the 60s and 70s over and over again. You hair will turn greyer and the world will continue to turn. No matter. I’m gonna keep listening to modern music whether you like it or not.

NB: I’m 18. If you see this as an excuse to call me an idiot, or say I don’t know shit, feel free, but be warned; you’ll look like a cretin.

Rob says:

It's not metal or rock

I love Rock ‘n Roll from the 60s up to now, Pink Floyd, NIN, GnR, Pantera(favorite), Metallica, Ozzy, Static X, Ministry just to name a few of my favorites, and I say that much of what is called Rock ‘n Roll now days is not really Rock ‘n Roll or metal since metal is a version of Rock ‘n Roll. Rock ‘n Roll defined: “a style of popular music that derives in part from blues and folk music and is marked by a heavily accented beat and a simple, repetitive phrase structure.”

The main part of this definition that sticks out to me is “repetitive phrase structure” meaning a set of guitar, or other instrument, licks that repeat to make a rhythm. Much of the so called “metal” that is on the radio right now is defined by 5 to 10 second chords and lyrics that choke out the rest of the instruments which does nothing for me.

I don’t mind long chords but to make a whole song out of them makes for a very dull song to me. I like a well defined beat with short strong notes that make an original pattern. I don’t know about independent metal since I am just starting to look for it but as far as the so called “metal” on the radio, I’m actually disgusted.

The other thing that really turns me off is when the singer is louder than the rest of the band, which actually would be OK, but much of the time it is constant, not allowing the band to come through. If I wanted to hear this, I would record American Idol and watch that over and over again.

Considering all of this, I really don’t mind it if this is the way music is going, but don’t call it something that it isn’t. This is not rock or metal and unfortunately there are no bands that want to stick out and get really good at it, so you have dozens upon dozens of bands that sound the same and don’t do it any better that the rest.

That is my view.

Joe Schmoe says:

Rob,You Suck,and "Alternative"too

“Alternative”?dont make me laugh,
this is the brand new scuse to POP sucks so much
NIN,Korn,Ministry,Static X?do you think this POP SHIT is rock?Rock is not Dead,Metal is not Dead,YOU and all
Fashionists are Dead,you are Living-Dead MTV lovers.
Marlyn Manson=POP.
So,Learn,90 S SUCKS,GRUNGE SUCKS,”Alternative”POOP ANTI-MUSIC SUCKS
and of course HIP HOP SUCKS AT ALL TOGETHER WITH THIS POP SHIT.Stop to call Real bands like Beatles or Led Zeppelin”classic”,old is your mothers,fashionists.Thats the difference between music that are for decades and today s one hit wonders.

Yeah Right... (user link) says:

I want to be the massiah of music

“I want to be the messiah of music”… but… “I can’t get the hang of any of instruments”

!!!! Are you F#king kidding me??? You can’t even spell messiah you idjit!!

This my friends is why we have a problem today. A lot of kids are too damn lazy to take the time and effort it takes to learn, understand and play music. Too many think that if they can yodel/mumble/pigsqueal(omg!)… along to their favorite MP3 – then they are the next music messiah!! Jeezus!!! Thanks much you stupid juveniles for killing a wonderful art!

For those that are serious about music – take a look at the fine arts… if you can hang, then more power to ya! If you can’t, quit calling yourselves musicians. Hell, even the Beatles knew a thing or two about string quartets.

N8 C says:

Modern music (and even movies) suck because of one simple reason. They are both depressing! There is no beat, no rhythm, no soul to music anymore. It just doesn’t inspire like previous generation music does. The mood is bleak and sad in most songs… it just sucks! Why would you want to depress yourself listening to music? The entire point of music should be to make yourself happy and/or relaxed.

Case in point, listen to Let’s Groove by Earth Wind and Fire. This song is quality… composed with a lot of soul and happiness. Something modern artists are simply blind to.

HOWEVER, there is hope! There is one genre/segment of the music industry that remains to be good, if not improving over time. That genre is chill-out/house/ambient. A lot of songs in this genre are well made and always seem to make me feel good, not unhappy. Check it out!

Ash says:

Step 1, get a shotgun. Step 2. blow glorious holes in your radio until it spews sparks and lets off a slight hissing sound.

Step 3, realize you are never going to find any kind of decent music on that shit-box known as a radio. There are hundreds of good bands around still releasing albums to this day that do not in the least bit suck.

Hit up your search engine, start browsing some music forums for your prefered genre, seek and you shall find.

Some Americans are losers says:

Americans are losers

Ehh, while i AM american. I do agree that people need to actual listen to music they LIKE. Not music that they want to listen to just because they think it makes them cool.

Even in my music, i dont want to listen to the most popular songs out of my album because its played everywhere and is annoying to listen to. There are more than one good song a band can produce and people need to listen to more than one song on a band.

I look at people’s Ipods and I sometimes see only a couple songs made by good bands, whilst elsewhere, there are 20 songs made by popular bands.

Expand your minds people to other songs people. Sheesh.

Cole Kane says:

Any Performer That Ever Sells A Product On Television Is For Now And All Eternity Removed From The Artistic World!”…BILL HICKS
And Now Me In A Tiny Nutshell. I Am A 35 Year Old Musician, And Have Been A Disc Jockey For 15 Years. I Love Music, But I Am Very Unsatisfied With The Level Of Quality The Music Industry Has Turned Out Over The Past Decade. Annoying Midi Rythms Have Replaced Skillfull Drummers, In Many Genres. Instruments Are Phased Out And Replaced With Looped Backing Vocals That Can Only Be Produced In A Studio. I Am “Anti-American Idol” I Think The Last Thing The World Needs Is Another Sappy Pop Singer. I Have Noticed That Music Is No Longer Timeless, But Disposable. It’s Good For The Couple Of Weeks It’s On The Charts, Everybody Grooves To It, Then They Are Embarrased To Say They Listened To It Once It’s Not “COOL” Anymore. Making Disposable Music May Be The Industries Way Of Getting Back At A The World For Piracy, I Think It Only Encourages It. Make A Product Worth Buying And People Will Buy It!!! I Like Real People Who Aren’t Afraid To Listen To Music Outside Current Billboard Or At Least Respect The Songs Of The Founding Fathers Of Popular Music. In This “Reality TV” Generation, The Industry Have Discovered (Or Assume) One Thing…People Are Mindless Idiots That Will Eat Whatever You Throw At Them! Don’t Settle For Table Scraps!!! Raise The Bar For The Industry. A Hit Song Doesn’t Equal A Great Song!!! Decide What’s Cool For You, Not What They Say Is Cool For You!

And Now The Evolution Of Songwriting…

HIT LYRICS YESTERDAY… “Eleanor Rigby died in the church and was buried along with her name. Nobody came. Father McKenzie, wiping the dirt from his hands as he walks from the grave. No-one was saved. All the lonely people, where do they all come from? All the lonely people, where do they all belong?”

HIT LYRICS TODAY… “Watch me crank it Watch me rollWatch me crank dat Soulja Boy,That Superman dat

HALOOOOOOOO says:

We'll agree to disagree.

If today’s music sucks so much, why is it on the radio? Why do people buy the songs and albums? Oh wait, it sucks because it’s popular, right? Wrong. You’d have to say the same about every popular artist ever then. Yet that’s how some people think. Or they think that since they like older or underground bands that it makes them so cool and original, when millions of other people do the same.

When I listen to music, I either like it or I hate it. Lots of people will ignore and entire genre and its subgenres because they heard a song from it, then got the impression all other songs are the same shit. Whenever I don’t like a song I find out what artist it is and stay away from their stuff. For instance: Lil’ John sucks, but I don’t hate all rap because of it. I don’t care that he’s popular, he just sucks at making even mediocre rap music.

Everyone can hate music all they want. But hating it for being popular is just dumb. Hate it for sucking, like Lil’ John’s “rap” or most country songs I’ve heard. Not to mention some people don’t like you for not liking the music they do (it happens).

Seiko says:

Oh Come on ...

Listen to Symphonic Rock or Symphonic Metal. That’s something actually new (actually, it’s been going on for about 10-13 years, just never been big until now since it’s growing since the 2003 debut of Evanescence).

But this whole thing is true. My whole freshmen year of high school, everybody were eating up metallica albums. And they thought the older ones were better.
In my junior year, kids were talking about the lists they made of the top 25 best 80’s songs.
A few other people in the back of that same class were saying how great these bands all were. And also, they loved the symphonic metal (!!!) band Nightwish, saying that Tarja was the greatest singer in the world. There music (and supporting singer) sounds like something new out of the 70’s or 80’s. If it was the 80’s, it would fit in much better yet be so distinquishable from it.
But since everyone likes garbage like Panic at the Disco, My Chemical Romance (booed off the stage in Europe more than once), and Paris Hilton.

I must also say that every kind of music from any era has it’s good singers. I never liked country until I heard Keith Urban and Carrie Underwood, but I’ve gotten into it because of them. Heck, I didn’t really like music until I heard Evanescence. I didn’t like nu-metal either until I heard Linkin Park. I also hated anything dance until DHT and Cascada came along. Hippie/independent music drove me nuts too until I heard Trey (former Phish Singer) and Aslyn (check her out; she is unbelievably good). Without Ciara, I would loathe anything R&B/crunk.

Then again, if you look at Meat Loaf, he’d destroy any of these singers. Unless there foreign singers who sing rock (actual rock, not pop) or metal, the older singers were better. I must add that I’m only 19.

Seiko says:

Re:

I have to say I do think Miley Cyrus is a decent singer.

However, this a very good point. They call Rihanna the next Christinia Aquilera when Rihann’s 3 albums didn’t sell half as much as one of Christina’s.
Even Miley, whos practically the new Britanny; her album sales aren’t even close to one of Britannys.

Also, new boy bands like the Jonas Brothers albums haven’t sold half as much as one of the backstreet boys albums (besides the crummy new one).

I’m not entirely sure about this, but the last time I heard an album went diamond was Maroon5’s debut in 2004, like 4 years ago. And Evanescence’s debut before that. We were heading downhill before that but that was the real killer there.

Also, the good singers don’t get the recognition they deserve, like Tarja (ex-Nightwish) or Sharon Adel, or Roy Khan from Kamelot.

In conclusion, this is all because America (and other countries as well) cannot recognize true talent. Simple as that, they are done deaf and actually stupid in some ways, not because they like what they like but because they eat up garbage that they won’t like in the next 5 years or are just jumping on because it’s the “Trend.”

Seiko says:

Re:

In the reverse, in the underground scene growing today:

Hit Lyrics Yesterday (2000’s, mainstream): “I’ll take you to the candy shop. I’ll let you lick the lollipop.”
(50 Cent)

Hit Lyrics Today (now) :”Caress The One That Never Fading Rain In Your Heart That Chases Snow White Sorrow caress the one Hiding Amaranth in the land of daybreak.”
(Nightwish, Anette Olzon new lead singer)

Which one is actually good? Of course lyrics with a beautiful voice than a song any person who likes rap could sing. We need range, talent, good songwriting, and good instrument playing. Is that so much to ask?

Seiko says:

Re:

Having no soul is true, but saying all music should be happy is exactly what’s wrong with half the music today.
It’s supposed to spark thought, which can range to any emotion. When it has no soul, it doesn’t. But if it’s all happy, it’s just a lie (same with movies too).

The world is not happy. It never will be. But it can be good.
Life can be happy. It can be sad.

Songs from Jessica Simpson and Hannah Montana constantly promoting happiness is ridicoulous. It’s stupid. THank god Miley Cyrus’ albums actually see the other side now.

Seether is right with “Rise Above This,” rising above the sadness or “Amaranth” by Nightwish about a never-fading hope.

open fiar says:

music sucks because record companies are dictating this shit,we have to stop this stupid motto about”we are living in sad years”oh..come on!,our mission is hit the mainstream on the balls,rejecting this dictatoradio shit and creating more space to good artists,old and brand new,criticism to this forced fashionism(such bling bling pop shit)and send them back to the stoneage.No money to this assholes.

DEATH TO TOP 10!!!

Billy says:

I think what has changed is that the radio plays no more decent music, there was always an alternative but there was always good radio music. All the great talented bands of the past received radio play….now they are no longer (that’s if there is decent stuff out there).
My friend listens to industrial rock, some band calls MSI!! I think there awful but it’s his taste and I respect him for that!!! I find him frustrating because he believes older music ‘’sucks’’
Pop is pretty much dead which I think is actually sad, well maybe im just speaking for my kind of pop, 80’s pop. I love 80’s music, the synthesizers , that addictive wall of sound and that optimism!
Another thing, hip-hop and rap is an interesting form of music, however I preferred it when it was less commercial. The problem began when rap and r‘n‘b became watered down around 1999-2000. They have become the new pop which has made the charts massively boring. Rap was better when it was underground or less noticeable, artists like tupac and nas make 50 cent look pointless.
Alternative rock music is dead also, people who say ”you need to look for it” are idiots, if it was so good it would get more attention, im afraid that‘s the way music is in reality unless it‘s jazz or classical which has it‘s own outlets. That’s why underground bands like the pixies and rem were discovered, the buzz got around and people brought there music which made them popular. For some reason the good music of today may prefer to maintain anonymous!!

Frenchie says:

I have the answer!

Stop making new music videos – because video killed the radio star. Also, REMOVE THE ALBUM CHARTS (ie. Billboard). Let the DJ decide what they think is good and let the radio listeners decide. If you get more listeners, you have a good DJ playing good music. In essence, I believe we need to REBOOT the music industry. Start fresh. At the moment, the industry dictates what we should like. It needs to be the other way around. Imagine, if you wanted to buy a car, but all you could buy was a truck, because that is what the automobile industry believed was popular for that season. What if everyone wants a car, but all they sell is trucks? People start stealing cars of course. GET THE HINT? Let us tell you what we want!

Anonymous Coward says:

There is hope.

I know that most mainstream music today is beyond any compare with the music of the past, but if you take the time to look, you can find some real gems in today’s music industry. I personally found refuge in the Jam Band scene with bands such as Phish, Lotus, Sound Tribe Sector 9, Allman Bros., Moe., Dave Matthews, and tons of others. These bands still perform today and are great musical experiences for anyone interested in that kind of music. Even alternative rock bands such as Coldplay, The Flaming Lips, and Radiohead have some incredible music to listen to. You just need to explore the bounds of music today. What do you have to lose by listening to some stuff you never heard off? Maybe a few minutes from your day but its worth the time.

eydie says:

today's music DOES suck

every now and then there is a sliver of good, but it’s so few and far between. the 60’s, 70’s and 80’s just had better music and more talented artists. a lot of it just seems more like a fashion show than actual musical talent. the music of yesterday didn’t require the artist to be what passes for society’s idea of gorgeous, tho some were beautiful, of course. it’s really disheartening. my son listens to a lot of stuff i loved growing up in the late 60’s and 70’s and my young adult faves of the 80’s. i feel sorry for kids today.

Confused says:

music has a chance...

…but only if you recognize the good music out there like 3 doors down (amazing musicians who can sing and rock), nickelback (who dont deserve the crap they get when they have obvious talent for making catchy songs), and the Red Hot Chili Peppers, who prove that “alternative” rock” can still be rock. It amazes me that people think that stuff like ac/dc is “classic” rock when they can’t even sing. Screaming is the new singing. Why do you think so many kids turn to rap? Vocal talent in rock music is practically non-existent, except in soft rock like John Mayer and Matchbox Twenty, who I think do have talent. But still, classic rock like Boston and Journey and Foreigner had good vocal talent, but seriously, these guys could rock, too, and their songs had good guitar solos in them too. Now guitar solos seem to be mostly reserved for heavy metal groups that just scream a lot. Amazing rock songs like It’s Not My Time do not come around very often, and that’s a shame. Alternative rock has taken over, and vocal talent is thrown out the window. People actually think Panic At The Disco has talent, then say that Nickelback and 3 Doors Down are watered down post-grunge crap when
they’re actually some of the only ones putting out good rock music. It sickens me.

truemusic says:

music has a chance...

Yes! Finally, somebody gets it. It doesnt make sense to me either. Why can’t rock music have good vocals? Why does it have to be one or the other? Pop music isn’t all bad, but like you said, the good ones like It’s Not My Time are undervalued, even though that one was played a lot on the radio. Yet songs like Viva La Vida get more attention. Not that I didn’t like it, but it’s nowhere near the high quality of 3 Doors Down.

Alarm says:

Here's your problem

The problem is this: The popular stations that teens listen to are either country, rock stations that play crap like Linkin Park (who are popular for some unknown reason even though they just shout a lot to the beat of a guitar), or pop stations that play pop, r&b, and rap (a combination that grows very old very fast). The good rock music is thrown into Top 40 stations that are a hybrid of new and old hits, and typically those stations play soft rock anyway, so it will be too boring for younger people. I am 17 by the way, not someone in their 40’s or 50’s. It’s a shame that my generation doesnt recognize great songs like you guys mentioned. It’s Not My Time was an amazing song to listen to, and I still like it after all the times it’s been played on the radio. Can you say the same for all those overplayed Chris Brown songs?

James says:

Modern rock does suck

Yeah vocal talent really is unimportant to music execs now. And groups with talent are bashed for being too “watered down” and “unoriginal” and it’s not a fair statement. For instance, Nickelback’s multi-platinum album All The Right Reasons was a great rock album. I look online and see that it has an average rating of like 45%! And why? Because the singles were too “radio-friendly.” Since when is a hit on the radio equal to a horrible song? Appealing to a wide audience is NOT a bad thing! Seriously! Most of the songs on that album were good. But because they have radio-friendly ballads, people think that means they’ve sold out.

coochiefromtheblacklagoon says:

it all sucks

if music has difficult instrumentals, unique voices, and meaningful songwriting it is good.

there has always been bad music its not about what years it came from. when you hear bob dylan you know its him, its unique, if you tried to play elliot smith guitar then you understand the talent needed to play it. the jonas brothers have poor musical skills, average voices (which wouldn’t matter if their voices were unique, but there not) and horrible lyrics. but disco was just as bad. every year of music there were bad songs, you always have to look deeper you can’t just use blanket statements like new music sucks, old is good. fuckin figure it out. everything sucks. kill me.

person says:

Ftw

John Williams and Radiohead FTW!

I think the problem with modern pop and rock is their chord progressions. They all play them at the same steady rate and they all use chord progressions everyone’s heard millions of times before. Dumbass composers especially like to use the standard arrangement of Drums+Guitars+boring 4-chord progression+”shake it baby” lyrics. WHY NOT a TWO-CHORD progression for a change? Maybe make it a bit slower and add some interesting guitar work I fill it in? People just don’t put effort into songs. It’s just a quick way of making some profits.

BTW, I’m suprised that this article has been active for nearly 2 years! I guees it shows how important this issue is.

Anonymous Coward says:

Anoymous"indie"coward is GAYeatshit

indie? isn’t that supposed to mean independent artist? then why are these “indie” bands on major labels? why did people turn that word into a “style” of whiny, untalented garbage that they call music? who knows. we need good music back. good bands for once again. 2010 might be the year for a big change in music. good ROCK bands will come back soon because it’s time for that, this can’t go on any longer, hopefully everyone will soon see.

JT says:

I want to be the messiah of music

Sometimes in my head I come up with the most original, unique ideas with unheard of lyrics. It drives me insane because I come from a non-musical family where I play no instruments, can’t write or read sheet music for the life of me and have no musical friends whatsoever. And as to music…the problem of why music is not good is precisely that they really have run out of ideas.

Everybody is nostalgic for the past. Why was the old music good? Because the artists were attempting to create a sound that was like NO OTHER THAT HAD EVER BEEN DONE BEFORE. They were pushing the envelope, trying to shock and excite people. I seemed to be a pioneer of the trend of this because in the early 90’s all I listened to was music from the 80’s back…I wanted to get into the newer stuff but it seemed shallow, toneless, pretentious and boring in comparison. In contrast, the older music had more melody, more experimentation, more excitement to it. I felt one with the music and it made me feel chills, emotion.

Nevertheless, this celebration of old music started in the 80’s, and it also started the downfall of music. From the 50’s to the 80’s, there was no desire to mimic the past…the past was a time to be forgotten and people believed that what they could do at the moment was better than anything before. There were no “golden oldies”…just bad adult contemporary from the 40’s that nobody cared to listen born after 1945, church music, largely underground soul/jazz music, bluegrass and basically very local performers earning nothing but the pleasure of making good music.

From the 50’s on, you STILL had people copying each other, shitty music, boring music. Like Motown? Note that nearly EVERY classic Motown song ultimately sounded alike at the end. Like Classic Rock? Only so many ways you can play an electric guitar. It wasn’t all good, it’s just that nearly everyone could find many songs/groups that absolutely stunned them and they couldn’t stop playing. I rarely find songs today like that, but I do find them occassionally. I became a huge fan of Radiohead long after their peak and think that they came up with some very unique, original songs with deep lyrics like nothing I’ve ever heard before. Starting out a song with the lyrics “green plastic watering can” is not your typical cheesy love song, I’m a bad ass teenage p*ick song or I’m a 40 year old fart that thinks Pink Floyd-Metallica-AC/DC is better than all bands that ever recorded before or since and nobody better disagree or else they’re fans of disco and probably lame.

What makes today’s music sucks is that they are finding convenient to cash in on the past with semi-nostalgic tunes with stupid lyrics, corny hooks and intros, saying the same thing over and over and tired formats, but disguising this by appealing to teenage rebellion by ever increasingly smutty, slutty, sleazy anti-everything lyrics…basically shifting music into a stupid chant not far different from another horrible musical trend of, you’ve got it, the 70’s known as FOLK ROCK. And yes I pissed off the 70’s purists…I cringe to think of having to listen to that shit again right along with Disco Duck and all of that played to death classic rock.

“Classic rock”, disco, alternative, heavy metal, new wave…why do you think those were so popular and STILL celebrated? Because they were absolutely like nothing ever before. But listen to any format…you’ll notice after ten different songs that they all sound alike. People got bored with them moved on…but today I’m having to listen to them all over again in a stupider, weaker form. Basically the kids got into these older groups and brought them into the stratosphere. In the 90’s, my generation was raiding their parents record collection and playing Led Zeppelin and Jimi Hendrix like they were brand new bands. Cmon everybody…please stop this shit! Like your old stuff, but let them stay in the past. Throw in some new instruments! Create a new tempo! Try a new style of playing old instruments! Sing a song YOUR way! Maybe even leave all the instruments we use today out of music entirely and bring back instruments of antiquity for a whole new sound!

Ever since new wave and heavy metal died, people have been STARVING for something that didn’t sound like the past. Rap was a new play on an old sound with tough talking that made the teenagers open up their wallets, but now it’s stupid and tired. Alternative degenerated into faux-emo and pop-punk to offset all the wannabe Nirvana bands that couldn’t come up with an original sound for the life of them. F*ck the influences, come up with something wild, weird and unimaginable much like Gary Numan must have sounded when he brought us “Cars” in 1980…I am not betting on it with the state of ALL of the nations of the world, but even if its for a local audience and you never get to have a castle and a garage full of Porsches for doing it, you’ve got to start somewhere.

Nick says:

well, MOST of it does suck (maybe 99.999%?)....

I am a musician myself. I play the piano, and I like to listen to jazz a lot. I am only 27 and I even listen to 1930s-40s swing. To me, that music actually sounds DANCIBLE!
What I do not really like about today’s music is, it is all either too fast (rap) or too slow (just about everything else). At work, I have to listen to Alicia Keys. She is supposed to be a great piano player (like me?) but, on the radio, I barely hear a note being pressed down because she is screaming her lungs off! No offense, but it seems like she can’t SING to save her life. What is wrong with music these days?
Of course, I do admire some modern jazz musicians. One is Anthony Wonsey, a piano player. Another is Nicholas Payton, a good trumpeter.

Robert says:

I wish the record companies and MTV would wake up out of their slumber and realize that young kids today absolutely love music from the 70’s and 80’s and the style those songs were written in. The younger generation hates the crap that is put out today. Unfortunately, it all started with Kurt Cobain and his Grunge style that put hair metal in a coma and unleashed all the other crap that followed. RECORD COMPANIES, BRING BACK THE FLAVOR OF THE 70’S AND 80’S AND BRING BACK GLAM METAL!!!!

Antonio says:

Gen Yer who's ashamed of today's music...

I’m 21 and I am largely ashamed with this decade’s music… I sometimes wished I grew up in the 60s or 70s or 90s cuz they had GREAT music! Emo drove me out of listening to the radio and speaking of Rap I can tolerate it in light doses but I usually ONLY listen to them so I can laugh at their lyrical content…

I hope the 2010s brings a backlash to this messed up pathetic musical state of affairs!

Aaron says:

music industry is not in good health (refering to

You shouldn’t bash a whole genre of music based on what’s on the surface. Sure, there are some questionable songs in the Rap genre, but there are some great songs out there, too. People often generalize that Rap and Hip Hop (which are sadly grouped together) are all about guns, drugs, gangs, and misogyny. However, that is not the case. PLENTY of rappers talk about other things- the politics ranging from simple stories (Slick Rick’s Children’s Story for example) to Political and Social Movements (Brand Nubian, KRS-One, etc). You just have to dig.

Another thing you mentioned was that rap was “under-produced.” Well you are partially correct on that one. You see, rap tracks in GENERAL, have a really under-produced feel to it on purpose. It’s just the style. Just like most rock tracks are designed to be super extra loud, rap tracks are designed to be chill and easy on the ears. With that said, it’s pretty easy to create a rap track by normal standards- Get a drum machine (TR-808) and a few synths and you’re good. But beyond that, it becomes an art in itself- HOURS , DAYS, and even MONTHS of digging in the crates (looking for “samples,” little excerpts of funk, reggae, and rare groove tracks, often from an extensive library of old LPs, which are stored in “crates,” hence the phrase), and coming up with clever metaphors and rhyming.

However, I do agree that nearly every genre of music has gone to complete SHIT in the past decade or so. And although some of my peers (yes, I am 15) may agree with me, it seems as though a vast majority of teens are still tuning in to the radio and buying shit albums. Rock music has become now dull and it seems that most bands on the air are trying TOO hard to make complex messages that don’t make sense in the first place. Hip-Hop has died and has been replaced by a hideous form of pop. Electronica has lost it’s originality and flavor and is starting to become simpler as it slowly creeps into the mainstream. Independent and underground music just doesn’t compare to the music of the past, either. This goes for all genres. From Electronica to Country.

Is it a byproduct of a more ignorant, apathetic society? Is it because “everything has been done?” Have we boxed ourselves in with copyright laws? Is it because of a huge corporate scheme to push onto store shelves albums of anything that sounds vaguely like music? Or does everyone out there just suck?

Jazz Skywalker (user link) says:

holy motown

how can anyone with ears sit there ands say modern music is good HA i used to be blind and listen to modern crap then i stubled across a old tape of ccr their creedence gold album and man that tape changed my life i seen how much todays music aint got the same soul

once you first hear santana pourin his soul out in a song from around 69 you can never listen to the shit they call music today again to bad carlos has sold out like all other bands these days

top reasons why modern muaic is jive
1 to damn angry
sure life sucks but damn man noone wants to hear som jackass screaming in non understandable tones with a drum beat like som pricks haveing a heart attack on the drums and who looks like he has a dick and a cunt
2 rap crap
who the funk had the bright idea to go gangster please tell me so i can chop his balls off cause we dont need more asshats like him rap and hip hop proves most kids today are to dumb to even wipe their own ass any one whos over 15 and cant see thru the liesc and still loves rap is right up there with bush damnitt

3 music dosnt even sound real
drum beats sound to light and fake nowdays the guitar riffs sound horrable like somones just tryin to make a quick buck to get fucked tonight

im only 18 but my god i can see music was better back in the 60s and 70s and shit today sucks ass on a scale i never thought id see and you know what its not just music theres a trend goin on with music hollywood and video games its just a game of make a quick buck nowdays and to hell with the quality of the product how else would you explain techno?

to quote the immortal words of bob seger todays music aint got the same soul i like that old time rock n roll

if you dont agree fine fuck you go back to your lies filled world where youll probally die alone after 40 years of workin 9 to 5 in a dead end job stuck behinde a damn desk alday at a dildo company workin for the man you pussy

Jazz Skywalker says:

recording tech is also to blame

hotdamn finally another cat who knows the imperfections is aprt of what made things so good back then look at that one point in up around the bend by ccr you clearly hear a static pop and thats what made them stand out plus shit today sounds to clean man its just not right i want that vinyl popy static back in the groove man

Dave says:

The lack of talent and the lure of huge sums of money are only two parts of the problem. With all the great technology out there, there’s a tendency to abuse it now. Things Like auto-tuners, digital effects and the like are abused like a meth. addict. The result is the loss of emotion and dynamics. It sounds cold even. Compound the fact that MP3 is being used as a primary format for listening and there you go! Crap in a nutshell. If we are at the point where the labels get musicians that can’t rehearse until they get it right or we have people who can’t sing on key then, why should you as a consumer buy there stuff? I know an auto-tuner when I hear it.

Michael says:

Then and now

There is a discernable difference in quality when listening between the current ‘popular’ music and yesterday’s. Even if I make comparisons between the 90’s and 2000’s, e.g. Alice in Chains vs Panic! at the Disco, the former is far superior in every way. Newer material from former greats like Metallica cannot compare with their early recordings, which signals that the problem isn’t simply a matter of the record labels acquiring more lackluster artists (even though that’s a part of it) but rather illustrates a certain lack of inspiration.

One might ask: wasn’t their crappy music back in the 60’s-through-90’s? Of course. However, there was also a lot of quality offerings on display. It used to be that you could walk into a record store and buy great albums filled with great songs from beginning to end. Whatever the time, whatever the style (barring disco…), there was quality on offer and plenty of it. Everyone from Steely Dan to David Bowie, King Crimson to Metallica, The Beatles to The Beach Boys/Brian Eno, Slayer to Stevie Wonder, and on and on …everything was better (and new), done with much more passion for the craft and attention to detail — even the packaging was way better. You could look forward to great new music every month.

Nowadays, you’re lucky if you can find a few good songs in a year.

They sell ‘trendy’ singles on iTunes, i.e. whatever the record brass wants to force on the public, and album prices have skyrocketed in recent years which is ironic given the fact that the albums on offer, quite frankly, suck. As customers grew dissatisfied with the garbage on offer and sales plummeted, the record companies or, more specifically, the RIAA, their lobbying strongarms, decided to make the customers their scapegoat, because if people aren’t willing to pay for their crap, they’ll sue it out of ’em. It’s a bullying business model built on a pile of shit and the stench is overwhelming.

People have drawn their focus away from great melodies, interesting harmonies and arrangements, and have instead become obsessed with trying to be ‘studio perfect’ like the current crop of over-processed filler (to note, it doesn’t matter what is recorded nor how clean when the mastering engineers have turned the mix up to blare out past the -0dB threshold of digital audio, thereby destroying the clarity and contrast between the different instruments, as well as causing ear fatigue). You don’t have to be a pro-grade audio engineer to write a great song, let alone record it. You just have to have some talent, inspiration and dedication to the craft. Those things will always be worth more than any studio equipment.

sup says:

The article was written a long time ago and its only gotten worse. I’m talking only of the mainstream and famous music that most people hear everyday. I’m aware that there are many good “alternative” songs, but the point I’m trying to argue is the songs heard by most of society. Right now I’m in college and while it is a little bit better than high school, I find that it seems that everybody listens to the same crappy music. And it seems to me that THEY ACTUALLY LIKE IT. What I’ve come to believe is that only a small minority of my generation (college students) actually have the intellectual capacity to appreciate good music. I know this is a very bold claim, but I don’t know how else to explain it. How else could you explain it? The quality between old music and new is so great that you’d think any person would be able to recognize it, but they don’t. Every decade except for this one had hundreds of famous and good songs that I’d enjoy listening to everyday. It is rare that a good song is found in this decade. Instead what we get are these overhyped bands followed by a moronic majority such as Jonas Brothers, Fall Out Boy, and Soulja Boy. None of these bands actually have musical talent or they just sample the crap out of old music. Plus, they all sound the same listless, boring, or emo. There is no passion involved in any of their songs. This is in fact not as broad of a generalization as you would think. Rock music and pop music have been decimated and I fail to see any recovery from it. At least we can take refuge in the amazing tones of each decade before this one. Each one was unique in its music and had tons of famous artists.

My claim here is that any person of intelligence if tested on what music they found more appealing, any music before this decade and music from this decade, the answer should be clear as day. The music today sucks.

rootsrock says:

Today's music sucks

Listen to Chuck Berry’s ‘Let it Rock’ then listen to Robert Johnson’s ‘Sweet Home Chicago’, then fast forward again to Sonny Boy Williamson’s ‘Bring it on Home’, then listen to Led Zeppelin doing the same song. Your faith will be restored. Uh….but just don’t listen to today’s music any more.

Dave

Bintie says:

Today's music does suck

It began at the end of the 80’s. When the record companies began simply pumping out slapass video after slapass video. Bands like Journey, Heart, Cheap Trick, Zeppelin, Rush, Yes, on and on, were great. Then we had long blonde queers like Nelson and Warrant and Marriah Carrey and Janet Jackson and Guns N Roses and Great White and White Cross and White Lion and White Snake and Paula Abdul and gawd remembers what-all crap they distributed each week. Then there was Nirvana and Alanis Morissette and Spin Doctors and Sound Garden and Phish. Then it got even worse… Cher came out with the first single to use the “vocoder”, that sickening vocal compressing device that has entirely survived the music industry in every genre, most especially (choke me!) Country music.

Today’s crap music has no feel. Nothing inspires you to reach for the stars and be a better person, it just caters to dumb people and promotes ignorant follower consumerism.

Bintie says:

Today's music does suck

It began at the end of the 80’s. When the record companies began simply pumping out slapass video after slapass video. Bands like Journey, Heart, Cheap Trick, Zeppelin, Rush, Yes, on and on, were great. Then we had long blonde queers like Nelson and Warrant and Marriah Carrey and Janet Jackson and Guns N Roses and Great White and White Cross and White Lion and White Snake and Paula Abdul and gawd remembers what-all crap they distributed each week. Then there was Nirvana and Alanis Morissette and Spin Doctors and Sound Garden and Phish. Then it got even worse… Cher came out with the first single to use the “vocoder”, that sickening vocal compressing device that has entirely survived the music industry in every genre, most especially (choke me!) Country music.

Today’s crap music has no feel. Nothing inspires you to reach for the stars and be a better person, it just caters to dumb people and promotes ignorant follower consumerism.

Tom says:

When music started to decline

In my opinion music started to decline after nirvana came out and all the grunge bands that pretty much just sucked i listen to some of their songs and their terrible now you have stupid bands like all time low forever sickest kids and all of them personally i believe that the 80’s had the best music besides the 60’s cause bands like Warrant, Motley Crue, Guns N’ Roses all had soul and power when it came to their songs especially their guitar solos

Tim says:

It's not that I'm stuck in the past...

it’s that today’s radio sucks gopher dicks. I just miss the guitar driven, dirty rock bands. I don’t need my music wrapped up in a nice package. I don’t need to listen to a bunch or whiners, either. Give me some music with balls and genuine emotion to it and not some of this fake emo shit. Give me some mind fucking solos. Hey, I’m not stuck in the past, I’m just waiting for this generation to take the torch and put me on my ass. Sadly, though, they haven’t and I’m stuck listening to the very, very few good unsigned and indie bands out there.

Alisa Anne says:

Yes...

I am only 15, myself, and I agree, most music now days that is mainstream does suck. You have to hunt around to find the good, modern bands that are sincere about the art. Once you do, trust me, it’s worth it. Much of what is on my iPod is older music. It’s the massive, monster corporations that are ruining the art form of music. They use people as tools to sell generic, corporate music to the masses. Worst part is, so many people are buying it o.0 I either have to go underground, back in time, or just pick and choose in a music snobbish fashion to find the good stuff.

It's the stupid kids says:

It's the stupid kids

Simple – Most kids today are lazy and dumb. Yes, that is true. Our society has made them that way.

Good music takes intelligence and hard work to create… both are rare in today’s youth.

They are too lazy to go beyond pressing a button on a software program to launch a beat pattern. ooooh, that takes a lot of talent and you should be so proud of yourself! HA!!!

Ever tried playing an Oboe? Or a Violin? Sorry, you fail.

Beatles fangirl says:

sooo true

wow this article is sooo true…i’m in college and i ONLY listen to classic rock, like the Beatles, the Who, The Doors, The Rolling Stones, Queen, Pink Floyd, Billy Joel, Elton John, John Lennon, U2, Bob Dylan, etc. Music today all sounds exactly the same; its either (c)rap, horrible pop or whiny emo rock. Its all about being famous and looking good on stage,and there’s no real passion involved. Rock from the 60s, 70s and 80s meant something, and there was a whole variety of styles, and the performers were infinitely more talented than today’s “artists”.

BRING BACK THAT OLD TIME ROCK AND ROLL

Ezra says:

Not All Modern Music Sucks, but the Bad Does Outnumber the Good

It’s wrong to say that today’s music sucks and leave it at that. There’s the good and the bad, just like in decades past.

However, there is a lot of shit. Lots of bands/singers just plain suck (Franz Ferdinand) or have talent but have lame, uninspired songs (Rihanna & Taylor Swift). It’s a result of having stupid kids nurtured on stupid pop culture setting the bar on what “good” and “cool” is, and having the sheep conform to their stupid ideals.

corporatefolkhero says:

There’s no way I could imagine living without Wolf Parade, Arcade Fire, The Rural Alberta Advantage, Yeasayer, The National, and many other 21st century groups. Few artists, past and present, put more soul into music than Spencer Krug (Wolf Parade/Sunset Rubdown).

I respect the classic groups, but if I had to choose between 2000s music and music from all other decades it’s no comparison– 2000-onwards wins hands down. Modern musicians can draw upon everything we’ve heard before as well as their own creativity. It’s ridiculous to think that music has had some sort of golden age other than the present.

On the other hand, the music industry has been going through business model growing pains throughout this decade, but the internet has thrown the door wide open for bands that wouldn’t have otherwise seen the light of day. It’s only going to get better from here on out, because so many of the old creative bottlenecks have been removed.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TIOpn8aTRGU&feature=related

soon to be DJ PM Xb randomness r0cKs says:

WTF?!

am i the only one here who likes daft punk?! electronic is way better than rap even though it basicly has the same objective: to get people to bounce and dance and stuff. but just about any rap that isn’t underground sucks. the only songs i like are don’t stop the music by rihanna and stronger by kanye west because they both sample music by older artists that had big hits. there is my opinion

Drew says:

I blame the internet!!!

If you read all the comments (it takes awhile) most people seem to say music started to really suck after the mid-90s. Well once you have the ability to just pick and choose a single song by downloading there is no incentive for artists to make an entire album full of great songs.

P.S. I was just listening to some classic rock and they were playing a flute in a rock song. Now where do you hear that in music now days? WAKE UP MUSIC IS DEAD!!! THE ONLY FLUTE BEING PLAYED IN MUSIC NOW DAYS IS THE SKIN-FLUTE!!

HALOOOOOOOO says:

I think that when people look back on this period of music history, it will be like the Dark Ages of music. Declining sales, increasing loudness from bad mastering, and record companies going after peer-to-peer sites help this viewpoint. A lot of it in my opinion has to do with the loudness of CDs. Back when they were introduced in the 80s they had the same volume as the vinyl pressing of the same album. Now, when you see all these old albums “remastered” on CD, they’re loud as hell and sound like shit because of it.

Record companies are also blaming low sales on P2P sites like Pirate Bay, Mininova, Bt Junkie, Iso Hunt, etc. Funny, because the music everyone is downlading is good music (90s and earlier OR the non-mainstream 2000s bands). Shit like Fall Out Boy, Panic At The Disco, Jonas Brothers, Lil Wayne, Britney Spears… It’s so bad that no one even takes it for free when it’s a click of the mouse away. The vast majority of music that people download is stuff that was around before Napster.

tut says:

Don't diss what YOU think is indie...

To the people saying ‘death to indie!’
You are really moronic. No, really. Indie isn’t a genre, it’s short for independent. What does that mean? It means that these bands are signed to independent record labels i.e. not Sony BMG and the like, stuff which you haven’t heard of. And THAT means that they release what THEY want to, not what generic society dictates. Indie music rocks, it’s diverse and independent. So get your heads out of your asses before preaching your ignorance.

J.C. says:

Let the young decide

Music today sucks, period. I know this from what I hear, and I know this from what younger children are telling me.

Here I am, an English teacher in Greece. I have various classes of kids, 13 to 18+ years old.

I ask them, “Is music good today?” — the answer, almost 90% of the time: IT SUCKS.

Kids aren’t stupid. Music has lost its touch.

I turned over the problem in my head again and again. Do musicians today lack talent? Are they unskilled? No, there are many skillful musicians.

I think its about inspiration, spirit, passion. Musicians, artists today – they’re just uncertain about WHAT to create, about HOW to sound.

ALL great music has direction, focus, and intensity. That’s why music sucks today – it has none of these.

god says:

That is True

100% of today s music SUCKS,needs a TODAY S MUSIC DEMOLITION NIGHT,that is the mantra,The Reason of a Vengeance Reaction:Ignorant Jackasses with no Soul,independent from the Style,They Dont
Love Women,They dont Love Nobody,Romance Feeling,Passion,Get Horny,everthing was killed by a buncho of so Called”Artists”but they are just a”Pop Hookers”waiting for the easy money,during the apocalipse(2000 a.c),Record Companies discovered that instead of Good Music,Image Sells for stupids,so we have a army of Fakers,liars,Fashionists Schooeless person,airheads of pop and hip hop,dictate this shit,the pop is not democratic,is a dictatorship from Assholes to take control of young claque suckers,buying the midia press,radio,mtv with money,its a worst version of Citizen Kane,its worst than a Communist Regime,its a totalitarism of japanese executives,Stupid Rappers(eminen,dr dre,all this unhuman shit),crazy bitches(lady gaga,britney,madonna),pseudo-music producers(timbaland,mark ronson,all this unhuman shit),boy bands(green day,linkin park),i claim the world to curse this people for ever,and i hope people forget this bastards and send them to a limbo,i hope they lost all of the money that they won,so,remember you are controlled by a Zombies,dont be a zombie…

Mds Kunio says:

I agree whole-heartedly

Super-groups, Neo Teen Idols, Faux this, or Pseudo that. Music now is just recycled garbage compacted into so-called “unique” forms. There is no underground anymore, nothing to influence musicians, nothing new.

Newer generations seem more open to having a broad range in music tastes, instead of the old way of choosing a particular taste to stick with and also represent. They like, and want everything, even if they only like that certain style for one day. Hell, they could just delete it and pretend they never liked that record anyway.

John B says:

NIRVANA WAS THE BEGINING OF THE END

I am 44 years old. My first album was Kiss Alive 2. My last album was 4 non blondes. That’s a 20 year span. I feel very strong about music and Know excactly where and when it died. Nirvana. Nirvana was that last great band everything after that just plain sucks! There were a few bands that came from that Seattle scene that had a cool feel. Very few! And they didn’t last because thay can’t write. I was playing in 80’s pop-metal bands back then and remmeber it was very painful to see the music go down hill like that. Thats when I joined a 70’s band and pretty much played 70’s until 2009. Let me say that every decade had cheezy artist. And some of that is ok as long as it is minimal. But the cheeze has gotten out of hand! Just plain retarded. What happend is that Seattle scene was all about being striped down to the bare minimum and it’s been that way ever since. For some reason it just won’t recover. What the hell happened to SOLOS???? Just no techneque at all. And it was all about anti 80’s music…Why? Because they can’t play or sing like that. When I hear BECK on the radio it amazes me how that dude ever got signed. How abou crash test dummies or maybe nickleback. They ALL SUCK!!!!!!! There was LOU REED in the 70’s, but that was just ONE GUY. Now ya have evryone sounding like sh.. I do see a shift in music now, They play 80’s on the radio now and adam lambert and lady gaga are steering it in the right direction. I’m hopefull. I pray. God save rock and roll!

Michael says:

Todays music

I’m 17 and in my honest opinion about 80% of the music thats been coming out between 05 and now has been pretty much total shit.. Yes there are a given few songs that are decent, but Music from the 60’s 70’s and 80’s is definitely better.. Hell even the 90’s was good. I dont understand why we cant have that type of music anymore. It’s all synthesized shit, repeating the same versus over and over. I think the music industry definitely needs to go back and look at what they used to put out, and resort back to that.

John B says:

WHAT'S NEXT?

OK, it’s 2010, Let’s see what happens in the music scene. It’s been 20 years since the bottom fell out. In my mind, 1970-1990 was long hair rock(loved it), 1990-2010 was Grunge,dork rock and rap and r+b went mainstraim. I never liked any of that. I really do think it will get back to Glam,flash and technique, which is the opposite of what’s been going on since 1990. We’ll see if the music industry can take its head out of thier arse!

lando says:

I agree

I hope the next generation creates a new genre or go back to good old MUSIC, not synthesized shit w/ nothing but sex,drugs,money,cars,bling.etc. for lyrics. And I sincerely hope that this decade’s musicians would know how to spell and use english words properly, for God’s sake, other non-english speaking countries’s music make use of the english language better than many of the mainstream music in america. I keep my fingers crossed for this decade though. BTW to those who keep saying that 2000s music does not suck and is in fact actually getting better, and that people just don’t know how to find it can’t accept the reality that music is really going downhill and that music today needs not improvement but major FIXING.

Anon says:

I am sick of overplayed, shallow, and marketed music. I think that after Cobain’s death, music went downhill, and after the early 2000s even hip hop flopped. Am sick of music that resembles “The Millionaires” on youtube, and hope that maybe bands like “Dead Confederate” and “Silversun Pickups” will bring us out of this horrible dance pop/marketed emo music that seems to permeate the radio waves. (Not that emo is all bad, I mean, bands like MCR and Hawthorne Heights suck–still, I like Jimmy Eat World and the Get Up Kids)

Yeah, kids. Ke$ha sucks. Get over it.

Bastien says:

Indeed. Modern music sucks.

That’s right. Today, music sucks.

I’m 21 years old and I mainly listen to late 70s, 80s and early 90s songs and classical music.

The loudness war is for sure a cause. There is no dynamic range in music, nowadays.
Search for that “Loudness war”, you’ll be shocked.
That’s one cause why music has lost emotions.

Thank god, there is good cds from 80s. Don’t buy remasters.

chris (profile) says:

music

I wanted to be a rockstar since the age of 7. I am a child of the hippie generation. I started out listening to Billy Joel(dad listened to a lot of music back then)It was pop but the melodies were pretty and my favorite Allentown, talks about his poor hometown.First concert I saw was Joel.Also liked the cars. the new age sound just made me feel great. Next the who….this is at age 7 mind you. my favorite sound in the world is the chainsaw sound of a guitar. Pete Townend’s album White City is not racist I don’t think…not really sure. I don’t have a racist bone in my body….except I admit I disliked black male’s for awhile after I was alone with 2 girls going home from a bar. I gave the finger to a car that almost hit me walking across the street. They pulled us over on a dark street and I was assalted by 5 black men. I did manage to beat the crap out of one. I still have scars on my knuckles from hitting the concrete if you want to see them. I can’t believe they didn’t kill us. I had a rifle pointed at my head at one point. That day I new I was not supposed to die, I was supposed to do something with my life. Unfortunatly drugs got to me first

scott (profile) says:

music

I think many people would agree with me in saying that yes the music since 2000 does generally suck! Obviously, there are some exceptions whether it is radio music or independent. However, overall, there is no doubt about it that the 70’s, 80’s and 90’s had far better music. People can argue why it has happened, such as the advent of download music when Napster started up and of course now paid downloads through any number of sources. Unlike the old days, people might buy an entire album (including the filler) because they liked one or more songs. So there was more money for the musicians. Now, it would appear that many musicians have concluded that unless they tour a lot, there is not going to be the same financial incentive. I am all about progress as far as technology. Unfortunately, I do think the easy availability of downloaded music has contributed to the demise of good music. But whatever the reason, I think most people agree that the 70’s, 80’s and 90’s had far better music in terms of creativity and everything else versus anything that ever came out in the 00’s. It’s sad but true.

Nick Digilio says:

Todays Music

I agree. MOST music is about opinion. The genre of music you like is generally dictated by opinion. BUT today’s music is absolute shit. It makes me feel like a sewage drain is pouring in my mouth. Forget the fact that the musics not creative or uses stupid trendy theme’s like texting lingo i.e. “OMG”. The people who make the music are disgraces to the world and should have a shotgun put to there nonexisting nuts. In the end all their music comes down one thing. SEX. read the lyrics. first of all these people are so illiterate it makes me want to puke. second of all if your able to read the lyrics( good luck) you’ll see it all comes down to sex and love. and not like a Stevie nix love song im talking “let me drop a G string down south” love song. (you can thank that cuban piece of shit Pitbull for that lyric)When I say “they” im refering more to the people they play on the radio. I.E. lady gaga, Pitbull,Ke$ha ( whats with the money sign in her name?). They are absolutely disgraceful and encourage the sexual revolution and other things like homosexuality and bisexuality ( no offense gay people but please keep it to your selves). Now back to the music itself. The music is unoriginal and stupid and teaches no good message. All the songs are about love or relationships because the teens go for that stuff.Now im sure there’s decent newer music out there but this shit sucks. guys i’m writing this and i’m 13. If you want good music listen to rush. Rush has helped me understand life alot better just by there lyrics. Also Pink Floyd kicks ASS and led Zeppelin.( i agree with bryan about rap stars to). There are alot of non charted bands like Brand New or Coheed and Cambria that are absolutely amazing but there smart enough to stay off the major radio waves to avoid songs being killed.

Nick says:

I want to be the messiah of music

I agree. Actually there are plenty of ideas left. Just no Ideas about love and relationships left. Listen. I love rush. you no why? they are fun at the same time of being serious and poetic. God, reading their lyrics is like reading from a book of Philosophy. It defines every day life and occurences and goes deep into life’s many meanings.
God, if i tried to tell this to someone in my school they’d laugh themselves to death. but its true. no one has good ideas cause no one can think out of the box of love and relationships. I mean look at Pink Floyd. Listening to Roger and David sing is like listening to what I call Epic Poetry. Its strong, sometimes wierd, but always good.

Nick says:

Re:

I agree. So? Stalin killed alot of people in Russia so it must be good right. DEAD FUCKING WRONG. IF YOU THINK THAT POPULAR OPONION IS RIGHT YOU ARE WRONG BECAUSE SOCIETY HAS BECOME SLAVES TO THOSE FAT BASTARDS IN THE RECORD COMPANIES AND THINK ITS OKAY.I’M GONNA DROP A RUSH LYRIC FOR YOU.”CULTURE IS THE CURSE OF THE THINKING CLASS” HOW RIGHT NIEL PEART IS. WHEN HE SAYS CULTURE HE DOESNT MEAN LIKE OH IM ITALIAN SO I EAT SPEGHETTI HE MEANS SOCIETY. sOCIETY HAS HAD ITS STRINGS PULLED LIKE PUPPETS BY THE BIG RECORD COMPANIES.[:) METALLICA!!!!)

Nick Digilio says:

Why?

Here’s a summary of my music today sucks.( not all modern music sucks, just most of the mainstream crap). First of all, its the big buisnesses fault.They pollute our minds with catchy beats and controversial figures who are either immoral or just plain dumb. The big record companies are afraid to sign good bands because they know that there is better music out there that will destroy there profits. The second thing is that Society is having its strings pulled by this music and its figures because they like the trendy ness or because its cute or whatever. Society needs to think.THINK. thats the objective. If people thought about the things they were listening to and the way big record companies work they’d realize that they need to stop supporting these buisnesses. Its fine if you like the beat or whatever but don’t base a lifestyle of the crappy messages of today’s music or there figures(not all of them are bad but still…).Society is the reason crap music is successful.The second reason music sucks today is because no one thinks out of the box. Its all about love and relationships. I love progressive rock[:)rush] because its like reading a philosophy book. Its interesting, the music is fun and portrays good messages. But no one thinks outside of love and relationships.
So, its big buisness, society, and unoriginality that make music suck today. PERIOD.

Rashad says:

There is good music today, you will just have to look for it. This article is nothing more than just nostalgia. I like old music too but I am just saying that not everything then was good. There was plenty of shit music in the 1960s-1990s too. For every Black Sabbath, Megadeth and Judas Priest, you had crap like Lawrence Welk and Michael Bolton. Like what I said, there is good music now. Most of you are only focused on the stuff that is played on the TV and the radio.

wait!wait! says:

OK Rashad,Rashid,whatheaver,you are trying to convince us that todays music not sucks?,ohh,Michael bolton rules,its much better than radiohead shit,for every foo fighters or hellacopters today you have a load of emo simple planish/coldplay/indie pop faggot shit…
ps:james taylor,don maclean,carole king is much better than that oasis/hip hop/high school musical shit..
old 80s funk is much rock and roll that green day crap..

Anonymous Coward says:

I don’t get it I’m 15 but I listen to beatles stones who queen and zep and then I hear modern music and all there is that’s good is the Foo Fighters and them crooked vultures (Dave Grohl, John Paul Jones and some other guy) and we all can thank the radio

“All we hear is radio gaga”-Roger Taylor/Freddie Mercury
“Revolution 9 is what music will eventually turn into”-John Lennon
“Dave Grohl is the last hope for music”-Jimmy Page
“We’re still around to keep whatever is left of music alive”-Kieth Richards
“Being Zak is younger we seem to be looked as by more current”-Pete Townshend
These legends told us

Mojave Tumbleweed says:

DISCO SUCKS! we used to shout and we were right. Disco and Saturday Night Fever really were the first stumbling blocks for rock n roll. It distracted everyone even cool bands like The Rolling Stones. Rock has not been the same since 1975. Then MTV, New Wave, Grunge, Alternatve, Hip Hop, you name it. Of course, the internet didn’t help because it became and will remain a permanent SUPER HOG of our daily lives. Cell phones too. No time for the next gen of rockers to learn from the great musicians of the past. Todays “rock” is but a self loathing, misogynistic pile of poop. Where’s the BRAVADO? The SWAGGER? No dangerous hook-laden riffs. No time to swim in Muddy Waters. You know him dont you? He invented ‘lectricty. No attitude! Except Anger maybe. You dont have to save the world with your friggn music. You dont have to be faster or louder. Or have clever lyrics (The Ramones). Dont forget that the blues gave birth to rock. And todays rockers, and I use that term loosely, have thrown the baby out with the muddy water.

Rashad says:

Not all music today sucks.

@wait!wait! The problem is that you are focusing on all of the stuff played on the radio, that isn’t the only music that exists you know. There are plenty of great bands in the underground. Yeah, a lot of music that is played on the radio and TV is generally crap but there is tons of great stuff out there. Like what I said, you will just have to look for it.

Mojave Tumbleweed says:

Back in the day we didn’t need to look for great stuff. Back in the day it was on the FM radio. Basically it was music all the time with commercials of course. The only talk radio stuff was on in the middle of the night, but even during those hours music was prevalent. Even on the the AM stations there was mostly music with some talk, sports and news stations.
Radio today is useless to explore music. We can thank F uck wad Clear Channel for that. I stopped listening to radio long ago thanks to them. 1200 stations and growing as you young folks through your youthful naivete keep on listening and helping them grow. You have nothing to compare it to because of your lack of years. Fortunately getting older has its benefits too. You can compare. Too much BS with Talk radio and DJ’s that just love to blab on and on like we really care. I wish they would shut their collective cake-holes and do their effing job which is to spin some tunes. Less talk would mean more time to get to hear a greater variety of music and more new stuff too. Maybe we would then get to hear some of those fine bands from the “underground”. People of my gen like Slash grew up listening to everything from Dylan to Carole King to Elvis to Joni Mitchell to Muddy Waters to Isaac Hayes to the Beatles to Neil Young to Led Zeppelin to the Rolling Stones to The Supremes to Little Richard. And tons more. Another difference also was that in the 70’s, for example, the radio stations would occasionally throw in songs from the 50’s or 40’s even so we could pick up on some great stuff we never heard before. Like blues and soul and gospel. Good luck trying to hear that stuff today.

Rashad says:

radio/album sales

Yeah you got a point about the radio. I wasn’t old enough to remember when radio was good though anyways (born in 1993). I never listen to the radio since they play the same 10-15 cookie cutter pop songs all day long and the songs are censored. Who wants to listen to censored songs all day anyways? I just hook up my iPod to the radio and listen to music from it while I am driving. Another reason why the music industry is suffering is because many people would rather download their music rather than purchasing it. Shame.

Mojave Tumbleweed says:

In my day we would record the songs off the radio onto cassettes and we would share them with friends. Almost always we would end up buying the record because the quality of the phonograph was better PLUS you got all the great packaging and artwork. Lyrics usually too. The packaging was BIG! Bigger is better! Nowadays the shared tunes are virtually the exact quality as if you buy it and you dont get much value in the packaging because its so small or non-existent. If you buy it online there is no artwork of course. Kinda sterile and definately not an event like going to the record store. But thats another story, the record store! It was like going to church! I remember when 8-tracks were introduced how disappointing the packaging was compared to the album. When CDs came along the quality of the recording was infinitely better than vinyl but the packaging-artwork was sacrificed. But we were seduced by technology once more. Oh well, the artwork is tiny now but wow, listen to the QUALITY of the recording! You could skip backwards and forwards with the push of a button! How cool. No hunting with the needle to find that song in the middle of the record. Who needs that big album cover with all that terrific artwork. A subtle example of the slow and steady replacement of art with technology.
I own an iPod and I like it because you can be free of the radio. You can be your own DJ. An example of technology put to good use. But I have priceless memories of going to the record store and hunting through stacks of records trying to find a Jimmy Reed album because I heard in an interview that he influenced The Rolling Stones. And guess what, I’d find it. You think you can find Jimmy Reed in the music store today? And what an adventure it was to listen to Jimmy Reed. And that would lead you to investigate who Jimmy Reed was influenced by. Then you’d go back to the record store and go hunting for Eddie Taylor. Not as easy to find. So you go to the used record store and sure enough, you’d find it. I think todays youth are too lazy to pull up their pants, let alone go looking through musical history.

Matthew Spaulding says:

I disagree entirely. Not all music today sucks. There is great stuff coming out today just like yesterday. True, there is a lot of crap coming out today but there was a lot of awful music in the past too. It’s just that the crap has been forgotten about over time and the good stuff is remembered. Who the hell expects to find good music on the radio nowadays? There is Youtube and magazines where you can find new music that is amazing. I for one happen to like a lot of modern music, it’s just that none of it is played on terrestrial radio and if you guys think that you can do better than today’s musician’s then let’s stop complaining and start creating. Whining and complaining will only get you so far.

Matthew Spaulding says:

And I have some more things to say. If you have a local independent record store, then why not spend a Saturday afternoon or something at the record store and asking the employees on their recommendations on great new music. That’s what I do instead of bitching about all of the music played on the radio, yeah it’s awful but every generation had their share of awful boy bands and such. Ex. The 70s had The Monkees, the 80s had New Kids on the Block, the 90s had Backstreet Boys and now there is the Jonas Brothers. Eventually the fans who like cookie cutter music grow up and eventually get into better music. That’s all I have to say.

Mojave Tumbleweed says:

Why must kids today “grow up” to acquire great musical taste? The great music ought to be there NOW. Yes when I was a kid we had the Monkees, but we also heard on the radio (1967)…

The Who
Marvin Gaye
The Four Tops
Johnny Rivers
Ray Charles
Jefferson Airplane
Booker T and The MGs
The Turtles
James Brown
Wilson Pickett
Aretha Franklin
Young Rascals
Temptations
Fifth Dimension
Hollies
Diana Ross and The Supremes
Procol Harum
Martha and The Vandella
Van Morrison
The Happenings
The Beatles
The Rolling Stones
Sam and Dave
Frankie Valli
Stevie Wonder
Tommy James and The Shondells
Young Rascals
Nancy Sinatra and Frank Sinatra
The Doors
Lulu

“I learned to hate music” – Joni Mitchell
“todays music scene is retarded” – my 25 year-old son

ElBarto470 (profile) says:

I’ve found dozens of sites complaining about the same thing, so I tried to come up with an explanation as to why people think some kinds of music suck: it’s all in the upbringing.

No, not your upbringing. The upbringing of your musical taste. If you spent your childhood listening to Linkin Park, Fall Out Boy, and the Jonas Brothers(like what kids today are doing), it’s only natural that you’ll hate The Beatles or Led Zep. You’re mind has been trained to like today’s music. Or if you listen mostly to classic rock, you wouldn’t understand today’s music.

Both styles have their own redeeming qualities. Classic Rock, in my opinion, is more heartfelt, more complex, while today’s music is catchy, simple, and has a danceable beat, which are all qualities that the general youth look for in a song.

Even though I’m a guy who thinks today’s popular music sucks too, it’s going to be hard to convince other people to listen to music from bands they never heard of because:

A: They want to conform to what’s popular so they can look hip.
and
B: Because they listen to other music, their tastes differ significantly from the oldies, therefore, they probably wouldn’t like it.

PS: For everyone who keeps posting that we should LOOK for good modern music: What’s easier, spending hours on end scouring the dark corners of the Net to find just one good indie band, or just listening to stuff you can get at any decent classic rock store?

uhhh... says:

today's music

you know what? EVERYTHING novadays suck. Music, TV shows, Movies just everything got cheaper and they are based on one simple formula. They all became same, open the radio and listen to the songs. %90 of them have the same beat, same lyrics on difrent order. For me music should feed your soul, create some vibes in you. But what we listen now is definetly not original faaaar away from creativity plus it makes us forget about real life, by creating a fantasy world. Seriously people how many of you can party everyday, can live a super fast life not thinking about how to survive in this world we living in?

Darren Schumaker says:

Oh Come on ...

What the hell are you talking about Adam, your a fucking moron. Todays music sucks and is all about mass marketing douchey gangster themes to the youth and out for the sole purpose of profit. Hip hop and rap sucks, and its not music, its douche bags who think their hot shit who filter their voices to the point that its not even original. Seriously, what happened to good old instruments and vocal talent. I admit there are some real bands out their today, but most aren’t know because the average teen with no real sense of music will choose the fake hip hop singer over true talent. And about the radio shit, yes he’s talking about the radio, but he’s taking about the MUSIC on the radio, not the commercials you fucking dip shit. Music now sucks dick like you, back in the early 80-60s true musicians existed and people with real musical taste

Kylie Hoeke says:

Music today totally sucks

Yes music today is garbage. No ifs, ands or buts about it. All of today’s music sounds exactly the same and none of the so-called entertainers (I refuse to call them artists because they are not!) can even sing. They use autotune to make it look like they could sing but if you take that away, they sound like total garbage. The state of music today is dismal. This is why people download music now instead of purchasing it and it’s a shame. People are sick of the crap that is force fed down their throats everyday. Whatever happened to the days when music took talent? Whatever happened to the passion, the soul, the melody, the effort? Whatever happened to musicians that actually played instruments, not using studio equipment to make it seem like you have talent? All this crap I hear on the radio and TV is completely soulless and just made for a quick buck. I don’t even listen to the radio, it’s repetitive and plays the same 15 songs all day long, all censored . All of the radio stations in my city are either Spanish or rap stations. If you were wondering, I am a 17 year old girl who loves classic rock, classic punk and classic metal and is sick of the crap that passes for music these days.

Bill says:

The title of this thread says it all

Im a little late to the discussion but I think I can add something to validate the OPs argument. I was born in 1982 and cut my teeth on the alternative and grunge sceen. Im also in grad school and, as through being a teachers assistant and internships im around a lot of kids born in the very late 80s and early 90s. During their preteen (when you start listening to music on your own) and tenn years they were surrounded by all that nu-rock post grunge crap the radio spews out.

Now normally you think that they would prefer the music from their own generation. However, I have overwhelmingly found that these kids listen to the same bands as I did a decade earlier. They wear pearl jam shirts, talk about sound garden, old weezer, and all that stuff.

So i think they realize that the music today is far, far worse than any of the corporate cookie cutter trash we complained about during our hayday. I have no idea how this nickelback type junk is popular because almost every kid I met wishes they were around for 1995.

Peace and love.

Michel LeGrisbi (user link) says:

today's music leaves hickeys....my positive spin

I can’t really say if today’s music sucks because we are at a point where there is so much it’s impossible to keep track. Overall pop music, yeah, worthless. But dig deeper & take the time to find music & you’ll be rewarded.

The music industry is in worse shape now as I write this than when this thread was started! Anybody can create a song and distribute it. That means a lot more music made with less effort and reward. So those who have put the time in think “what’s the point” if they can’t make a living from it. How much is a label going to invest in a product that is easily “shared”?

Still, I have have trouble writing of music as a whole because those who really love music will make albums they want to be proud of & I’m really enjoying “Cosmogramma”!

Aren says:

@ Adam

I strongly suggest you learn to play a musical insturment before making claims like that, any kid who is a decent guitar player can tell you that all the challenging songs are strictly songs that came before 1990, I grew into a teenager thinking I hated music with stuff like the backstreet boys and britanny spears being force fed to my generation, now that I’m 20 I know almost all of good music died in the 90s, one thing I have noticed is that the musicians have been pushed out of the picture, it seems like it’s all about getting some singer, making them as sexy as possible, and pushing them out on stage to shake their ass.

When you look at music before 1990 you could recognize many of the songs by their diverse melodies and many of the singers played guitar or had a close relationship to their band, now it seems like 90% of our school’s population just wants to sing and is quite frankly lacking in all musical ability other than singing. The way things are now, you couldnt identify anyone in a band other than the singer, look at music groups such as lady gaga, hannah montana, taylor swift. I bet most of you couldn’t indentify anyone in these “bands” other than the singers.

I suppose we can’t have everything, we have so many gadgets and cool online video games these days that we should focus on what is good, but if you know that the quality of music has died as I do then boycot the industry, do not buy anymore music until they clean up their act, I know I won’t be buying any until then.

Unamused at the youth's misconception of music man says:

Todays Music

You my friend are an idiot… How can you even compare the simplistic lyrics of modern songs with those of the past, the shamefully inserted computer instrumentals with the instrumentals of true artists? There is nothing of talent in repeated choruses of getting down or getting laid. Hip hop or pop is absolute garbage! Lets just hand the credentials to the computers and auto tuning. Maybe you and others like you will be happy when someday a computer song generator comes out with all your songs!

dave says:

Yep, today's music still sucks

I have never been much into music and that is because nothing good has come out during my generation, everything is just garbage rap lyrics and screaming like an idiot. No catchy beats or nothing. I do think the music from the 70’s, 80’s, etc. was much better from every genre. There were better melodys, the songs were catchy. Modern music is killing music itself by throwing out trash instead of taking the time to write songs that everyone will enjoy. OF course being a teenager, many kids don’t share the same opinions as I do. I actually wish the old style of music never died out, but it did and it shows no sign of coming back.

doe says:

Sucky Crap Music

Someone earlier said that it’s ” time to invent a new genre, people.” Well, I guess it’s here. But it sucks. The thing is, the old genre, Rock N Roll, well, it Rocked.
I think music back then up into the 90s a bit, even, had the art of orchestra. The orchestras that the beatles had sounded kick a. Now orchestras in the background sounds like a keyboard.
There are no more fun songs either. Just fun laid back songs you can skat to.
Music was waaaaaaaaaaayyyyy diverse, I mean you don’t really have the crooning big band style of The Rat Pack today like you did then. Country really sounds a lot like hannah montanna’s songs today. And rock music has kinda turned into less rebel, more poser.
Anyway. The best stuff todya is still kinda bad, Train’s soul sister kinda does not make sense.
But I don’t know, thinking about the future, I’ll be 75 years old in 2064 the beatles will be 100 and I doubt that a whole bunch of anything older, Elvis Presley, Buddy Holly, old stuff likePerry Como and Roy Rogers will be readily available at walmart. I guess, then, Ill just have to get by with and be old with just ok music and not awesome music.

penis, rape, and titties says:

popular music, where you have to “look” attractive for people to think you “sound” good. Isn’t that crazy?
Katy Perry for example, do you think she’d be famous if she had her voice, minus the huge rack?
Or Disney stars, who have to be attractive enough to be on TV to have a record deal.
WHen’s the last time you’ve heard a good ole rippin guitar solo on whatever radio station that claims to rock?
All the music today is just bells and whistles, all sounds the same, made on a computer, and inspired by money.
The only modern mainstream musician I think is still getting it done is Jack White, but that’s just my own opinion.
I hope this modern manufactured, shitty, autotuned, non-creative crap music dies out like disco or something.

AbortChrist (profile) says:

Music Sucks!!

I totally agree. What happened to bands that were GOOD, and actually put massive amounts of passion in the music? Nirvana, for example…..Kurt Cobain put more passion into his music that any other singer of a band put into. You could hear the eeriness of his voice and the trauma he has gone through. WHAT THE FUCK HAPPENED?? Now it’s just these “record labels” spewing out shitty rat cum everywhere. I’ll give you an example, here’s some lyrics from a modern song by Creed

*Hello my friend we meet again

It’s been awhile where should we begin…feels like forever

Within my heart are memories
Of perfect love that you gave to me
I remember

When you are with me
I’m free…I’m Careless…I believe
Above all the others we’ll fly
This brings tears to my eyes
My sacrifice

We’ve seen our share of ups and downs Oh how quickly life can turn around in an instant
It feels so good to reunite
Within yourself and within your mind
Let’s find peace there

When you are with me
I’m free…I’m careless…I believe
Above all the others we’ll fly
This brings tears to my eyes
My sacrifice

I just want to say hello again….
i just want to say hello again….

When you are with me
I’m free…I’m careless…I believe
Above all the others we’ll fly
This brings tears to my eyes

Cause when u are with me
I’m free..i’m careless i believe
Above all the others will fly
This brings tears to my eyes
My sacrifice

My sacrifice

I just want to say hello again
I just want to say hello again

My sacrifice*

Personally this is a great example of how lyrics are generic and made for dumb Americans. OK, so here’s some Nirvana lyrics.

*What else should I be
All apologies
What else should I say
Everyone is gay
What else could I write
I don’t have the right
What else should I be
All apologies

In the sun
In the sun I feel as one
In the sun
In the sun
I’m married
buried

I wish I was like you
Easily amused
Find my nest of salt
Everything is my fault
I’ll take all the blame
Aqua seafoam shame
Sunburn with freezerburn
Choking on the ashes of her enemy
All in all is all we are (x14)*

This is all apologies, one of the most beautifully crafted songs in the world. The two songs are polar opposites lyrically. I’m not sure why people like modern rock, it really sickens me.

AbortChrist (profile) says:

Music Sucks!! (cont.)

I didn’t realize that the song I put was made in 2001. Haha, here’s a more modern example.
I�m through with standing in line
to clubs we�ll never get in
It�s like the bottom of the ninth
and I�m never gonna win
This life hasn�t turned out
quite the way I want it to be

I want a brand new house
on an episode of Cribs
And a bathroom I can play baseball in
And a king size tub big enough
for ten plus me

I�ll need a credit card that�s got no limit
And a big black jet with a bedroom in it
Gonna join the mile high club
At thirty-seven thousand feet

I want a new tour bus full of old guitars
My own star on Hollywood Boulevard
Somewhere between Cher and
James Dean is fine for me

I�m gonna trade this life for fortune and fame
I�d even cut my hair and change my name

�Cause we all just wanna be big rockstars
And live in hilltop houses driving fifteen cars
The girls come easy and the drugs come cheap
We�ll all stay skinny �cause we just won�t eat
And we�ll hang out in the coolest bars
In the VIP with the movie stars
Every good gold digger�s
Gonna wind up there
Every Playboy bunny
With her bleach blond hair
Hey hey I wanna be a rockstar
Hey hey I wanna be a rockstar

I wanna be great like Elvis without the tassels
Hire eight body guards that love to beat up assholes
Sign a couple autographs
So I can eat my meals for free

I think I�m gonna dress my ass
with the latest fashion
Get a front door key to the Playboy mansion
Gonna date a centerfold that loves to
blow my money for me

I�m gonna trade this life
For fortune and fame
I�d even cut my hair
And change my name

�Cause we all just
wanna be big rockstars
And live in hilltop houses
driving fifteen cars
The girls come easy and
the drugs come cheap
We�ll all stay skinny
�cause we just won�t eat
And we�ll hang out in the coolest bars
In the VIP with the movie stars
Every good gold digger�s
gonna wind up there
Every Playboy bunny
with her bleach blond hair
And we�ll hide out in the private rooms
With the latest dictionary and
today�s who�s who
They�ll get you anything
with that evil smile
Everybody�s got a
drug dealer on speed dial
Hey hey I wanna be a rockstar
Hey hey I wanna be a rockstar

I�m gonna sing those songs
that offend the censors
Gonna pop my pills
from a pez dispenser
When they ask why I drink all day
I�ll say because I can

I�ll get washed-up singers writing all my songs
Lip sync em every night so I don�t get �em wrong
Then listen to the fans tell me how damn good I am

I�m gonna trade this life for fortune and fame
I�d even cut my hair and change my name

Cause we all just wanna be big rockstars
And live in hillltop houses driving fifteen cars
The girls come easy and the drugs come cheap
We�ll all stay skinny �cause we just won�t eat
And we�ll hang out in the coolest bars
In the VIP with the movie stars
Every good gold digger�s gonna wind up there
Every playboy bunny with her bleach blond hair
And we�ll hide out in the private rooms
With the latest dictionary and today�s who�s who
They�ll get you anything with that evil smile
Everybody�s got a drug dealer on speed dial
Hey hey I wanna be a rockstar
Hey hey I wanna be a rockstar

THESE LYRICS SUCK. IT’S ALL CORRUPTION!!!! ITS ALL POST GRUNGE WANABE BULLSHIT.

Leslie says:

I don’t believe what’s in this article. I’m sure there are other kids out there (like me) who agree that today’s music really sucks but all throughout my school, everyone loves that crap…Bieber, Lady Gaga, Ke$ha, Katy Perry, Taylor Swift, whoever the hell is rapping these days, etc. I just don’t understand. I’m like the only kid in my school that likes stuff like Classic Rock, modern hard rock, and metal. Today’s singers just make up lyrics that don’t make sense and it becomes a hit.

Razgriz says:

Modern day music SUCKS

I am 14 and I believe that modern day music sucks.Its too clear(no imperfections,NO SOUL!!!)Classic Rock has soul. Pink Floyd,The who,rolling stones,Eric Clapton etc.I don’t listen to that Rap Crap. You ask me I want Techno. Heck No. Everybody is entitled their own opinion. but all I have to say to those people who are in love with rap, or techno or any of modern day crap. GET A F@#%&^% LIFE!!!!!!!

Anonymous Coward says:

Most music is crap. And it’s frustrating figuring out WHY people are still buzzing over it. I doubt these “artists” would feel compelled to “create” if there wasn’t a giant market for it. As I used it, “music” could be exchanged with any other commodity… Many of our choices are false (should I buy this garbage CD or the other garbage CD?)It requires some effort to learn about what you spend your money on (sellers don’t inform people of what they’re buying any more than they are legally required to, unless the information positively distinguishes them) and it’s easy not to care. You might say: but this is music! you actually listen to it, HEAR IT- can’t they tell it sucks? Some would say the same for Pop Tarts. And some people love them still on and on…

kiki (user link) says:

music

The last great musical act was either Janet Jackson or Mariah Carey, because both were competing for album sells in the 90’s and also were highly popular. I think were it all went wrong, when people actually listened to Britney Spears- and her sing-song singing. It just went down from there because first of all Britney’s voice is very thin. Like literally, she does even sing she talks in most of her music with the help of auto tune. I think that is where it went all down the drain. I am a 16 year old girl and to me Britney Spears is just a mixture of Janet and Madonna, a very sad mixture. I feel that music is even taking downward spiral look at the people we have today : kesha,justin beiber and lady gaga. it is just terrible because they all used gimmicks to get the attention they need in order to sell records. Personally i am janet jackson fan, but only to these 4 albums control, rythem nation,janet and velvet rope. The others are iffy to me. Im also mariah carey fan, but i hate that she is trying to hard to be sexy it saddening because she has a gifted voice. i like music from the 50’s,60’s,70’s,80’s and 90’s and i also enjoy jazz. but music today is all about gimmicks and it is truly sad.

Mark Schurr says:

today's mainstream music is horrible

Main stream music today has no purpose other than to make money. Yes, money is great, but most of today solo artists and bands do not write their own lyrics or music and these bands / artists are formed by rich old white men who find cute young people with some talent and package most of their music to eight to 14 year old kids.

All main stream music today, be it country, rock, hip hop, rap, punk or mental sounds like which ever band is number one in the charts. If you take away the vocals of todays music, you could not tell the bands or artists apart. Pop country has its one sound as does all the other genres of main stream music.

Thank the powers that be that bands like AC/DC, The Rolling Stones, Aerosmith and Rush still exist. The only 70’s bands that perform and sell out areana’s on a regular basis still. Anything else that is mainstream is just soulless crap. Mark Schurr

Forbes, Charles says:

IM COMIN!!

I totally agree todays lyrics do not come from the heart and soul “JUSTIN BIEBER” is a straight up fag once he hits puberty he wont sing any more. three days grace used to be good but there latest 2 albums suck ass!! its all fake and not real, singers and bands who cant write there own lyrics from true expierence suck and i sure as hell know i can cause i do my first album which is a demo called mirrors with three songs on it from a recording studio where i recorded for 60 dollars which is cheap as hell has sold by now around 60 to 100 cd’s in the past month my music is true and are from true life expierences and storys. linkin park used to be kick ass before they went soft like little bitches there hybrid and meteora covers were kick ass love them but not so much now the music i make is my ups and downs in life and i can not wait till one day i make it …….

Forbes, Charles says:

IM COMIN!!

I totally agree todays lyrics do not come from the heart and soul “JUSTIN BIEBER” is a straight up fag once he hits puberty he wont sing any more. three days grace used to be good but there latest 2 albums suck ass!! its all fake and not real, singers and bands who cant write there own lyrics from true expierence suck and i sure as hell know i can cause i do my first album which is a demo called mirrors with three songs on it from a recording studio where i recorded for 60 dollars which is cheap as hell has sold by now around 60 to 100 cd’s in the past month my music is true and are from true life expierences and storys. linkin park used to be kick ass before they went soft like little bitches there hybrid and meteora covers were kick ass love them but not so much now the music i make is my ups and downs in life and i can not wait till one day i make it …….

JB (user link) says:

3rd post!

Well, I’m back! LOl. 3rd post here since 2007 and I do see music changing slowly! Lady Gaga and Bruno Mars are cool. (but not super in my book)Mtv anounced they are going back to playing videos? That’s what I hear. I’m kind of perminatly pissed at them though for ruining the whole music scene. Azzholes! Most people here make a good point, some haven’t a clue. I still claim Nirvana as the last great band and I even hate grunge! But Kurt was the real deal! I don’t like music after 1994. It just got plain retarded. These 90’s leftovers just love to bash the 80’s. Why? Can somebody explain that? The 80’s were awesome, yes there was some cheese, but it was fun cheese lol. I see nothing FUN about anything after 94. Actually it’s depressing! 3 chord ditys about heroin and death doesn’t do it for me. You guys suck! No vision what so ever! Anyway, I think Kirt was so great because he had issues growing up. What do kids today have issues about? Their x-box braking? LMAO! Or having to actually walk to school once? You can have it only so easy before it starts to effect your brain. Brittny sprears is the perfect example of this. Dipshit.
I like Elvis To Extreme and everything inbetween! That’s my quote and I am sticking with that. Lets get back to great musicianship because we’ve all had enough!

ThatFatGuy says:

Music.

I find music to be lovely. However, i don’t find taylor swift, justin bieber, beyonce, lady gaga, rihanna to be that GOOD. I could take?all of their songs apart and find shit. lady gaga is VERY talented though. Does she use the talent? sometimes. In her songs? No. Rap isn’t shit by the way. There is some beautiful or jusr right out fun rap artists and songs out there. Eminems first album was great. his later stuff is just annoying and unoriginal.

15 year old says:

Oh Come on ...

im not challenging your statement or philosophy i just couldnt find another way to post. Anyway, i am 15 and i have heard a variety of music whether it be dave mathews, creedence clearwater revival or justin bieber. But while im only fifteen i can honestly say that i do not enjoy most modern music. Mostly because it sounds like nobody puts their heart in their music anymore. That and the fact that most of the music today involves sex, drugs, horrible language or violence. It seems that every time lady gaga sings she strips down and she has little to no talent. Music has also shifted from happy to sad or angry. The only music that i can listen to and not become emotionally distressed or otherwise saddened or having the feeling of invincibility from listening to heavy metal crap, is classic rock and classic country. I can actually listen to the beatles and not have my eardrums dulled out before im sixteen. I regularly hear other students ipods from across the room so i have to listen to the same crap that they do. So in the question “is modern music terrible?” The only answers that you will get are opinions, and my opinion is firm, most modern music is annoying and sucks.

The Truth says:

Music

Talent is no longer required. All you have to be is crass lewd and appeal to the lowest common denominator.In today’s music this includes Rap, Hip-Hop,Formulaic Country, Pop, Alternative, Rock. ever notice how the themes of EVERY SINGLE ONE of the genres mentioned is the same unto itself. ALL the rap artists sound the same as do ALL the others. And you people eat it up. Idiots one and all.

onetruefan says:

you dont write songs with a pen

as soon as you require musicianship (whats missing in todays music)

the field becomes a lot less full

you get rid of all these “singers” who think they gotta song everytime they spew out some stupidity on paper that they can convice couple of people to play background crap to

music without instruments playing in the foreground sucks and its easy, thats why you gotta million singers with pointless bands

onetruefan says:

you dont write songs with a pen

the primary reason why rock sucks now is because they are trying to do solos n riffs based on blues, and blues sucks allways has allways will

listen to riffs n solos by bands like soundgarden, nirvana was that they were using dissonance

and if you dont know what dissonance is then you dont deserve good music

only 12 year old girls like consonance

music is great (user link) says:

damn huge difference

a year or so back I listened to mainstream junk on the radio. then my friend introduced me to more of the beatles. damn I was missing out on good shit. so I went looking around and found some more great bands like the rolling stones, led Zeppelin, others.. from that moment on the radio pissed me off and I absolutely hate most modern music. older music is just so much better. and the lyrics aren’t just rape sex drugs profanity.. other dumb crap. anybody got suggestions for other great bands???? it’s like my addiction now

Jordan says:

Modern Mainstream Sucks Ass

I think most people who can think for themselves will agree that todays mainstream hiphop/pop/rap sucks. I have never really looked in to “real rap”, so i cant say anything about that. But modern metal IS very good, nothing gets you more jacked than a good low breakdown! But when I was growing up (im 18 now) i only listened to oldies after i heard a led zep song on the radio, and i can honestly say that i have not heard any modern music that is as.. i cant even think of a word. good? Personally i cant stand “indie” music. For some reason a lot of the new bands are just huge pussies who whine about girls and shit. They gotta chill

Andy says:

Modern Mainstream Sucks Ass

Yeah I know watcha mean. I grew up only listening to 80’s and techno from Europe. But now that I’m getting older, I love listening to heavy songs bloated with break downs and hate. It sounds good to me. I make music that sounds like it. But I wouldn’t say I’m replicating it. And honestly, I don’t give a flying fuck what some fat hippie that grew up in the 60’s and 70’s thinks about what I listen to. People that age don’t have that anger anymore. So the music they heard back then that was “hard core” is still held on to by them because their precious lives are slipping away year by year and they are trying to hold on to their youth with that 2d perspective of what they thought was good. Hip hop and rap is for dumb kids that want to be gangster. Simple music for simple people. And sadly, a lot of people now days are “simple”. I love some old stuff. But I can’t stand the Beatles. I think it’s funny how everyone thinks you have to like them.

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For Onetruefan

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makingjust says:

Making justi?e

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Colin says:

Music Trends

I am 15 myself, and I agree that modern music is much worse than the 60’s, 70’s, 80’s and 90’s. The is still bands out there that are producing good music. I do not believe it is in the same league as bands like Led Zeppelin, AC/DC, Black Sabbath, ELO, Steve Miller Band, Pink Floyd, and many other popular bands of the 70’s and 80’s. (By the way, I am a real fan of these bands… I could probable name 40 or 50 led zeppelin songs off the top of my head, yes they made that many and then some.)

Anyway, my point is that music today is different, but if you live in southern NJ or The Philadelphia area, try listening to 104.5. They constantly play mixes of 90’s and 00’s rock. When 102.9 is on commercial break I take a step away from my classic rock, and go to some more modern rock, new wave, modern punk, and alternative music. I do like some of the music I hear on that station, but I can’t stand it when people, including my friends, listen to modern rap “stars” like Drake, Jay-Z, and all the other modern “pop” music of today.

I am in a band, and play lead guitar, and also play bass guitar, though we have a bassist of coarse. I jammed on war pigs (solo) by black sabbath with them for literally over an hour. I can’t say that is possible with todays music.

Music isn’t declining, pop music is. I truely hope that in my later life, my kids, wife, and self never have to go anywhere and have our ears assaulted by modern rap, and those rock stations better stay around.

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Robert says:

MUSIC SUCKS 100%

hello, i’m 14 and have strong hate towards music during the times span of 2005-20-. seriously,everything is just synthesized, and has a repeated beat of a background. it is depressing knowing to find a decent song i have to search deeply through the internet. i’m sick of hearing bruno mars stupid amazing song over and over…it just encourages for more shit music to be made. at least their was a bit of class before 05. Movies are the same, cgi random BULLSHIT with no originality.

JB says:

MUSIC SUCKS PERIOD.

I know their are a few of you who defend some music released recently and say “Finally a Good Song!” To be honest compare any recent metal,rock,etc. whatever.. to mainstream. People would prefer shitty catchy pop than some emo loud crap. This is how most people view it. Does days 70s,80s,90s now those were some good times.As for Hollywood, I haven’t had the urge to go to a theater since 2005. btw i’m 13.

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Anonymous Coward says:

Stop listening to American music...

You will keep having an argument about why modern music sucks until you stop listening to American music. Seriously, don’t think that I hate all American music, but a bunch of you don’t go farther than The Beatles to mention good music (Sure they are a hell of a good band) but there is even more! If you could only open your ears and start listening to music in other languages, or even in English, but from another country, you will find a lot of interesting stuff. Is not that I hate all what’s on the radio because they have catchy sounds. Though, I can tell that everyone here listens to Rock music and has a dislike for Hip-Hop and Pop. Is that all your ears can listen to? Stop listening to American music!

Anonymous Coward says:

Mainstream is a plague......

Mostly all music shown or heard by the media is mediocre. If Comparing music to different decades, it will knowingly show how horrible the music industry has gotten to. It’s so horrible, I have a disgust to turning on the radio. Same goes for some of the lame horrid crap we see on t.v. As for movies, the last time I went to the theater was to watch a kid’s movie with my younger sister.

DJ Skyede (user link) says:

today's rock SUCKS

Modern “rock,” if you choose to call it that, falls into four major categories:

1) I suck because I want some girl and can’t get her;
2) I suck because I don’t know who I am and I’m too scared to find out;
3) F*** the world, I want to die and take you along with me, because now I don’t care anymore; and
4) Give me some porn, and perhaps something or someone to insult, degrade or destroy, to take my mind off things for a while before I get bored and start complaining and whining into this microphone again.

In short, the frustration and lack of direction, prevalent in kids of today’s empty consumerist society, has become painfully evident, as well as prevalent, in the waning art form known as contemporary rock.

Predictably, the music is very “me” centric. All you hear is “I, I, I.” Rarely the pejorative “you,” unless, of course, it is to bitch about having lost you or being unable to get you in the first place. Whereas classic rock of the seventies and eighties, when it was not positive and triumphant and celebratory, was much more philosophical, looking out at the problems of the world and of the human condition in general, and trying to find a purpose or a moral in difficulty and suffering.

Musically speaking, too, yesterday’s music was much better, with more interesting melodies, a wider variety of tonal inflections, greater layering, a richer dynamic and demonstration of skill in terms of instruments, key changes, and creative transformations. Gone are the guitar riffs of the Eddie van Halens, the unique vocals of Steve Perry, and the drums of Stewart Copeland. Most of the music today is uninspired and insipid from a musical perspective: flat, predictable, and repetitive. The voices are all the same: High and whining or “make tough” and gritty, and always angry. You can barely tell any of them apart.

This makes perfect sense, too, because our kids are not being raised to be adults in this culture, any more than they are being raised to be creative and confident. Just look at the “leadership” of our country: If you’re not stealing from someone else and getting away with it, and then looking to someone else to bail you out, forgive you for your crimes and make excuses for you, then you’re bombing someone much weaker in a far-off country and calling it security and patriotism.

Matt says:

Don't listen to 90 percent of the posters here

There is amazing music being made all the time. You just have to know where to look. Let me make it easy for you

Amazon.com – Find something you like and look at the similiar items. Just from liking the Cure I was turned onto Interpol (Turn on the Bright Lights) then onto Modest Mouse (Moon & Antarctica, Lonesome Crowded West,Etc) and so on.

Metacritic.com – While not perfect it covers a lot of todays new music

Cokemachineglow.com – a good review site. Go through their archives but first check out their year end list to see what you missed last year.

Bolachas.org – What they lack in detail they make up for in abundance. A lot of stuff here! Doesn’t always have a description so sometimes you gotta do a little of your own research.

Pitchfork.com – not as good as CMG but still a lot of great stuff you can find by going through their archived reviews

I love music from all decades and love them all dearly. While I can’t say that that any of the bands that I know of have toppled the great monument of dark side of the moon (musically at least) .. I can say that for me at least quite a few are in the realm and may one day make something that good.

Heres a few of my favorite bands – Check em out 🙂 – Akron/Family, Animal Collective, Battles, The Chameleons (uk) , Destroyer, The Flaming Lips, Grizzly Bear, Kaleidoscope (uk), Sufjan Stevens, Wilco and a shitload of others culled mostly from perusing the above mentioned avenues.

Most of the posters here (including the author) are dead wrong about music today. They are just speaking about mainstream bullshit (and it is pretty much ALL shit) Since that doesn’t encompass todays music as a whole (not even close) all of their opinions are null and void. True Poetry and meaning in music is not dead at all, Great, unique song structures still thrive, interesting instrumentation … you name it.It’s all out there and now that I’ve given you some hints… it won’t be so ‘hard to find’. So kindly shut the fuck up now with this ‘modern music sucks’ nonsense. Thank you and good luck.

Yourdad says:

Actually there is no such thing as crappy music, if you don’t like a certain genre or era of music that’s your opinion. Not to be confused with facts. Saying all Modern Music Sucks is an ignorant statement, and shows you have no respect towards “talented” artists in today’s music industry(Pink , Christina Aguilera)etc. What is untalented or fake music anyway? Anything that isn’t classic rock? Music is Music and Woooow, look at me only 15 years old trying to talk like some smarta** adult. lol

Todays Music Sucks Stadium says:

For Matt The Indie....

Dear Matt the Indie…
you are talking about Indie Music.So..
Thanks for the cooperation,but,the MAIN Problem Here
is THERE IS NOT GOOD MAINSTREAM MUSIC ANYMORE..
so Mgmt For Example Hit the goal to Mainstream but,egocentrical-esque brought them to underground again.
If you want Help New Bands to Show themselves for the world,work hard on it,and Help us.
So,good luck,and dont be a hipstor…

Carlos Trias says:

Today's music sucks

Ever noticed that all the great love songs and artists: Kenny Rogers, Peabo Bryson, Bluer than Blue, Air Supply, David Gates, England Dan and John Ford Coley, Paul Anka, belong to the past, 20 or more years ago?

There are no love songs today! Are people so insensitive today that there are no love songs?

Those brain dead musicians of today could have at least imitated and made a Kenny-Rogers-type of song today that would make you fall in love. But no.

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scoob says:

I’m a relatively young guy but can’t listen to anything much above 1983 or so. Why is there nothing out there to equal Led Zep, The Beatles, The Who, Abba, Buddy Holly, Paul Simon, Brian Wilson, or even Neil Diamond and the Monkees for cryin out loud? People seem incapable of composing melodic pop these days. I guess they just let the synthesizors and other techno-garbage do the work. And God how it shows.

Torin says:

By today’s music, I don’t just mean pop and rap. Metal is at its all-time low right now, imo. You have all these posers who listen to these whiny emo bands of today. And by that I mean this softcore, nausiating, mainstream metal. Whiny, weaksauce bands like Avenged Sevenfold, All That Remains, Disturbed, Bullet for my Valentine, and any other sold out vat of goat urine bands out there can truly only be respected by those who think they are “metal” by listening to them. There are also deathcore bands like Bring me the Horizon, whose fans have clearly never heard legitimate death metal before. It’s just a poser-fest, and most of them don’t even know that they are posers. They like bands for one of two reasons:

1. helps them fulfill a persona that makes them either fit in, or the complete opposite, rebel. (the definition of poser)

2. Or they are just so ignorant of music, that they think the hardest band out there is Slipknot or something.

Joe says:

Well, I myself am 13 years old. I believe the problem with today’s music is how little heart is actually put into a song. Artists these days have their record labels make the music for them, giving them undeserving fame. There once was a time when artists made their own music, and that is what made that period of time great for the music industry. If I could have been born in the 60’s/70’s, I would have been happy.

Texas says:

Ignorance = Fairplay

I do agree that while it is ignorant to claim or boast something so generalized, or polarizing in this case (all modern music sucks), I think one should abstain from arguments rooted in semantics.

I’m also tired of people who have no experience in the music industry, be it “indie-independent” or “mainstream” to argue vehemently as to which is better than the other.

Music is a lot like fashion, honestly, always really was…the 60s and 70s were able to allow a few very large acts through that people crown as the kings – Led Zeppelin, Black Sabbath, AC/DC, Jimmi Hendrix, Blue Cheers, Mc5, The Stooges, the Velvet Underground, Richard Hell and the Voidoids, etc so forth. However, a lot of that was due to the whole social movement linked to the music. Don’t also forget that technology was a lot different then as well which allowed social structures to be so rigid – the nuclear family era and its failures before the “free love” movement and the post-WWII kids in Europe uprising that also deeply influenced American artists. Drugs were becoming much more popular in the mainstream, specifically psychotropics and hallucinogenics. of course, pre-dating those kings were acts like Jerry Lee Lewis, Elvis, Johnny Cash, Hank Williams Jr. – Kris Kristof. etc. Acts who were deeply influenced by those who pre-dated them and created their own niche…right?

Bleh. I love all the artists I’ve thus mentioned and yet its so funny how many of them were outright thieves, Elvis popularized music by robbing the African-American communities gospel hymns and blues. He later would mostly sing songs written FOR him, not BY him. Johnny Cash just pretty much pretended to play guitar half the time and was mostly an attitude rather than a talent. Led Zeppelin, now there’s my favorite laugh – I love this band with all of my heart and its so funny how much Jimmy Page, a studio musician with a knowledge of music theory, literally stole blues riffs directly and just distorted them with a lot of gain, not to mention he was a sloppy guitarist and still is. Stairway to Heaven bears a heavy resemblance to Taurus by Spirit, Dazed and Confused was written in 1967 by Jake Holmes and went uncredited by the act he opened for with a certain Jimmy Page. Most of the “big” hits are thieved.

You see, at the time you people are bitching and moaning about there was still something new under the sun, now there is less and less. It’s a simple economic principle that affects everything in a market – its called scarcity.

Now as scarcity becomes more and more enacted, musically speaking, things are becoming more and more stale. I mean fuck me, its impressive that you could steal from such talented people at the time…these days, you do in fact (as some before have mentioned) have this messianic effect were one band becomes the template for millions of spinoffs.

A lot of this is due in part to today’s technology, the advent of the internet allows things like YouTube, epitonic, last.fm to oversaturate the market and allow a lot of shite bands to practice a few times, right a few clones from the proto-band (nirvana, at the drive-in, radiohead, etc) and record it quickly as possible to find a new fanbase.

MySpace, before it became a pedophile playground, really did a number on the popularization of boy bands in skinny fit jeans with tattoos (hipsters) screaming behind autotuned vocals with a few “heavy” riffs.

Independent music is just as cheesy and stale, don’t listen to Matt -> if pitchfork says its good, its because you HAVENT heard it yet, its obscure (which means its typically jargon with an 8bit casio bit overlaid behind some faux heroin-addicts bleating, feminin vocals.

Just be fair, music hasn’t evolved.

It’s always been an industry, and for the most part (at the risk of sounding elitist or snobby) most music generally fucking sucks…the beauty being there is so much of it that one man stands to hold an iPod with several thousands that make life worthwhile.

There are still bands today that are rather impressive who, like their predecessors, “steal” (typically in the beginning stages only) a few riffs here and there before writing their own material after years of touring and learning their own unique breadth.

A label, a studio – be them indie or major, exist for one sole purpose – to protect their investment or interest(s).

This means promoting a band, selling a band as deemed fit, typically deciding upon the single, or even becoming hands on in the production process.

There is a strong corellation between a bands stylistic sound and their producer (look at how much coheed and cambria has “progressed” at the hands of some AWFUL producers – progressed for the worst if you ask me, Mastodon too)…but you know what?

Want to know the truth guys?

As long as there are a few kids out there plucking away at a guitar, ripping off their influences before they learn their own voice, shit, punk aint dead – music aint dead.

Look at Elliott Smith…deeply influenced by men like Nick Drake, who was in turn deeply influenced by many contemporary folk musicians of his time and jazz players, and learned to develop a very unique playing style. One that embodied heart, developed odd chord structures or emphasized alternate tunings (a lot of this due to his former instrument – both men).

A lot of music, “indie” or mainstream, today does seemingly lack heart…but just as much maintains it, you just haven’t gotten off your lazy ass to discover it because you’re too busy bitching about nothing.

Existentialists like myself may seem like snobby assholes but at least we get out of life what we make of it. Same applies to you…

stop being so fucking melodramatic and just wait for a good band to come along.

There is A LOT of shit today, I agree. I think there was probably an equal amount of shit then, in relation to less numbers (population increase, technology – instruments – becoming cheaper, etc) but come on…there will always be a few good guys along the way.

That’s how I want to end this long-winded rambling, as if anyone will ever read it…

for every explosions in the sky who makes the same record every 4 years, you had planes mistaken for stars or the party of helicopters.

For every Linkin Park, you had coalesce, or botch.

The good bands keep dying because no one will get behind them. The ones WITH heart, or by the time someone felt the need to clap, its posthumous.

Stop it.

Besides, good bands are like girlfriends – you don’t really get a good one by meet her by chasing after it desperately, you just sort of stumble onto it.

For as much as these media devices suck cock and saturate – YouTube/Epi/last…they do an amazing job of introducing new people to great bands too.

There is a good and bad to all things, its called equilibrium and its enacted in any ecosystem (virtual or physical).

I’ve said my piece,
night.

Texas says:

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I apologize for some typos and the cramming of certain bands into inappropriate time groups.

It’s 2:07am here in Central Texas and hopefully this won’t completely kill my argument, I’m not 15 ha, I’m 10 years more than that so I should know better than to release something this long as a comment on such an old post or to come off like a prepubescent, pseudo-intellectual.

Anyways.

Rush writes some awful lyrics, but not nearly as bad as The Mars Volta. Cedric is a high school dropout with a thesaurus next to his bed, ha.

Done.

Skyler says:

There is great modern music such as electro dubstep hardstyle house but what is wrong with that is electro and dupstep are now the 1# genres so to stay on the pop charts the radio kings move into this stuff so kesha britney spears black eyed peas are making these horrible non-tolerable songs so when its played on the radio and this is what people think these genres really are because mostly everybody judges by a first listen or look if it doesntimpress people turn it down so kesha, britney, black eyed peas, etc. are actually taking people away from the genre and the genres i listed are the main genres that dj’s play so if people turn down these genres dj’s wont have jobs because nobody is gonna like there music because they think the modern pop crap is wat this music is.

Zach says:

Even The Kids Today Think Modern Music Sucks

Yeah all todays music sucks. And I know everybody is going to hate me for this but f*ck it. I hate Nirvana. I always found their music to be uninspriing and way too overhyped. If Kurt Cobain hated his fame so much, why didn’t he just walk off the stage like he could have? Thats all he had to do! Instead, he blowed his head off and became every single 14-year old teenybopper’s messiah! Way to go, fucktard.

I agree with zach says:

Totally Agree with you zach,Curt”Co-vain”was a egocentrical fucktard,a whinny “i hate myself”wuzz, if he doesnt shoot himself,someone wold give him a bullet in his bags,90s was the most Lame,kitsch,winonarydish,mamma bamma-pseudorebel halowood motherfuckers years about the end of the century.
it was a milli vanilla teenage grunge turtles,shaking their booties at techotronic s songs,that years sucks so much.2000s sucks but the 90s effect is fading out..no more”chevy nova”motherfuckers(sorry by lots of “city speak”)

the main guilt is says:

the motherfucker japs and billionary blacks with this hip hop pimp shit,racists are right,dont let thugs take control of the music,that motherfuckers dont not how to sing,they talk dont sing they make noise like monkeys
the apes are taking control if the usa..
next future,the statue of the liberty will fall down…
survivalists and decent white people,watch and punish our enemies…

Zach says:

When I get older, I want to play music. And I’m gonna make music that I think is good and not what is cool to play. If you don’t like what you do with your life, then why are you doing it? Isn’t music about playing what you want and not worrying about what will make me the most money? I’m not going to do for cars and for the big huge houses. And I’m not going ever sell-out. I just want a huge following of fans and still be able to sell concert tickets without loosing my intergrity. If I get big of my debut album like Pearl Jam did, I will be like them and go from selling 10 million to only 500,000 10-20 years later.

Cookie says:

For God's Sake

Music has always been ‘this shit’. When people look back on the 70s they’re not going to remember the crap stuff are they? There is some brilliant music out there today, and quite a lot of it, eg. Noah and the Whale, Laura Marling, Cee-lo, Fleet Foxes, Elbow, Florence and the Machine, Everything Everything, Jamie Woon, Massive Attack, Martina-Topley Bird, Radiohead, Rogue Wave, The Strokes, Tegan and Sara, The Temper Trap, The Vaccines and the XX just to name a few. All brilliant bands/singers with an original sound and purposeful music. In 30 years time people will go on about how they’re music is shit and look back on the 00’s as the golden era of music. That’s how it’s always been.

bellametallica (profile) says:

everyone has their own opinions & view points on many topics, & i think it’s great that we’re able to express them. so without further adieu, here is mine. the music of this generation is completely asinine. every time i hear any of it, i swear to your god that my IQ drops at least 10 points. ALL of the songs sound the same; rhythm, topics, lyrics, singers, etc.,etc. actually, correction, there are no lyrics. 90% of the words in these songs consist of only a few little “phrases,” if you will, which are, “ooh,” “aah,” “baby,” “uh,” & “yeah.” well, you catch my drift. i can also condense down what the songs are about as well; a girl in love with a boy, a boy in love with a girl, a girl mad at her ex, a boy mad at his ex, or just singing about some other nonsensical crap that they just love to repeat as many times as they possibly can just to make their song last for at least 3 minutes, because they’re not talented enough to come up with any other words that rhyme, because they’re all ignorant, unimaginative, pathetic, piss ants who WHO SHOULD NOT BE FAMOUS! & what is worse, is that so many people are fans of these singers/bands & their bullshit music, & actually believe that these so-called “artists” are so original. [justin beiber, taylor swift, lady gaga, katy perry, nicki minaj, selena gomez, big time rush, rihanna, avril lavigne, bruno mars, adele, miley cyrus, kesha, maroon 5, vanessa hudgens, kelly clarkson. the list goes on & on…]

hmm, well i feel better now that i got that off of my chest lol.

steph. says:

its so true.

I agree with this article. I mean there are ecxceptions and such talented artists like beyonce and jen hudson whos voice is just amazing , and then you have kesha who is an autotune slut (she actually has a good voice though,heard some of her old performances). I just love odler music cause it was real talent you know, not all wannabe singers.And the songs stayed famous because they were good,seriously how many people are gonna remember i wanna go by britney? she had normal cute pop songs and even though she’s not the best singer it was ok. Now with that electronic sound they put in everything her new music sucks. And hip hop..seems like anyone can make hip hop right now, no real talent like Eminem. Rihanna also turned into a whore, and she’s not even that good live anymore, i have no idea what’s happening to the world, but people need to wake up. there’s no real music anymore, it all sounds the same, it’s all just “studio magic”.

The Real gods says:

What is happening to the Music?Niggers..thas what is happening,everybody in the pop wants to be a damn NIGGER,instead in the past,when Black musicians played Sofisticated and powerfull and polite pop songs,celebrating love and life,We have today Niggers,Eminem,Dr Dre and son of a bitch Jay Z,buy radio stations,record companies,”producers”(fucking pimps)with MONEY,that is pop music today:
NIGGER BITCHES INCLUDING NIGGER MEN AND WOMEN SINGING ABOUT MONEY,THATS WHATS HAPPEN WHEN YOU FEED MOTHERFUCKER NIGGERS WITH MONEY.THIS MOTHERFUCKER NIGGERS WITH NO RESPECT FOR MOTHERS ARE:BRUNO MARS,JAY Z,JESSIE JANE,KANYE WEST,KATY PERRY,RIHA HA HANNA,50 CENT,KESHA,AKON,BICTHNEY SPEARS,BEYONC?,NICK MINAJ,FLO RIDA,PITBULL,FAR EASY MOVMENT,BLACK EYED PEES,LADY GAGA JUDAS,AND ALL TODAY S HIP HOP NIGGERS/MOTHERFUCKERS/SONS OF A BITCHES.NEVER FEED THIS APES AGAIN!!

James Taylor souza batista says:

Its Again for you Eliane L.Souza,you a damn bitch
i remember spent my time listen your shit by the phone…
now you are in oitokattu hiddin your ass,i hope you never came back to brazil,because you are a souless slut,i feel sometimes go illegal to finland and shoot your head with a pistol,thats why you deserve you bitch,because you treat me like a dumb,and when you get old or get a desease,i will be happy when you start suffer,when zander kick your butt out,i laugh a lot,and he changes you,for a better girfriend,and you a old and lonely old brazilian slut,die motherfucker,die!!!

Trevor says:

Mainstream/Modern

Guys, mainstream and modern are different. Mainstream music is modern, but not all modern is mainstream. There are tons of great modern bands and artists that are either underground or just not mainstream. However, mainstream music sucks because it’s the same whiny teenage girl anthems every song. I am also a HUGE fan of the oldies too, more so than modern, so don’t get me wrong.
-from a 15 year old who actually appreciates decent music

International Army(kill all rapists) says:

A Message to Zack Snider:
You did your creepy and cruel
sociopathic nerd sexual fantasy rape shit called
Sucker punch.
I will Find you and i gonna kill you
you are a sick psyco and you must die
you rapist prick
kill all rapists and male nurses in mental institutions
this is a message from a international army
join us to make justice round the world

I Support says:

civilian s vigilante squad

The creation of a Civilian Vigilante Squad is important
to Protect People againist human s rights violations
around the world,we must to form armed groups to scan and
capture rapists,torturers,sadistic criminals,kill them all
and dont send them to jail,or police stations.
the protection of our sons and daughters depends of this.and begins at home and your neigborhood.
second we must to form teams with shooters,able to make urban or jungle warfare to invade bunkers,houses,and mental instititons and prisons,to find and kill sex offenders.Not just squads but make battalions to direct fight againist enemys of human rights.Lets fight togheter.join in our army

Will says:

why modern music sucks

Im 18, and I prefer classic rock. Other than every modern song having prety much the same beat, look at the lyrics:

[Chorus]
3,6,9 standing real fine move it to you sing it to me one mo time
Get low, Get low 6x
To the window, to the wall, (to dat wall)
To the sweat drip down my balls (MY BALLS)
To all these bitches crawl (crawl)
To all skit skit motherfucker (motherfucker!) all skit skit got dam (Got dam)
To all skit skit motherfucker (motherfucker!) all skit skit got dam (Got dam)

Shortie crunk so fresh so clean can she fuck that
Question been harassing me in the mind this bitch is fine
I done came to the club about 50th 11 times now can I play with yo
Paine line club owner said I need to calm down security guard go to sweating
Me now nigga drunk then a motherfucker threaten me now

She getting crunk in the club I mine she work
Then I like to see the female twerking taking the clothes off BUCKEY naked
ATL. Hoe don’t disrespect it
Pa pop yo pussy like this cause yin yang twins in this bitch
Lil Jon and the East side boys wit me and we all like to see Ass and tities
Now bring yo ass over here hoe and let me see you get low if you want this Thug
Now take it to the floor (to the floor) and if yo ass wanta act you can keep yo ass where you at

3,6,9 standing real fine move it to you sing it to me one mo time
Get low, Get low [6x]
To the window, to the wall, (to dat wall)
To the sweat drip down my balls (MY BALLS)
To all these bitches crawl (crawl)
To all skit skit motherfucker (motherfucker!) all skit skit got dam (Got dam)
To all skit skit motherfucker (motherfucker!) all skit skit got dam (Got dam)

Let me see you get low you scared you, scared you
Drop dat ass to the floor you scared you, scared you
Let me see you get low you scared you, scared you
Drop dat ass to the floor you scared you, scared you
Drop dat ass ya shake it fast ya
Pop dat ass to the left and the right ya
Drop dat ass ya shake it fast ya
Pop dat ass to the left and the right ya
Now back,back,back it up
a back,back,back it up
a back,back,back it up
a back,back,back it up
Now stop ( O) then wiggle wit ya
Now stop ( O) then wiggle wit ya
Now stop ( O) then wiggle wit ya
Now stop ( O) then wiggle wit ya

3,6,9 standing real fine move it to you sing it to me one mo time
Get low, Get low [6x]
To the window, to the wall, (to dat wall)
To the sweat drip down my balls (MY BALLS)
To all these bitches crawl (crawl)
To all skit skit motherfucker (motherfucker!) all skit skit got dam (Got dam)
To all skit skit motherfucker (motherfucker!) all skit skit got dam (Got dam)

Now give me my doe back and go get ya friend
Stupid bitch standing there while I’m drinking my hen
Steady looking at me Still asking questions
Times up nigga pass me another contestant
Hoe move to the left if you ain’t bout 50th
Done talk through 3 or 4 songs already
looking at a nigga with yo palm all out bitch I ain’t even seen you dance
Twerk something baby work something baby
Pop yo pussy on the pole do yo thang baby
Slide down dat bitch
wit yo little bit then stop
Get back on the floor catch yo balance then drop
Now bring it back up clap yo ass like hands
I just wanna see yo ass drity dance yin yang we done again
And put it on the map like annnnn

3,6,9 standing real fine move it to you sing it to me one mo time
Get low, Get low [6x]
To the window, to the wall, (to dat wall)
To the sweat drip down my balls (MY BALLS)
To all these bitches crawl (crawl)
To all skit skit motherfucker (motherfucker!) all skit skit got dam (Got dam)
To all skit skit motherfucker (motherfucker!) all skit skit got dam (Got dam)

Got dam (Got dam) ya ya’ll twreking alittle bit ladies
But ya got to twrek alittle bit harder then dat
now right now I need all the ladies dat know they look good tonite
(where my sexy ladies) we want ya’ll to do this shit like this
Bend over to the front touch toes back dat ass up and down and get low (get low)
Bend over to the front touch toes back dat ass up and down and get low (get low)
Bend over to the front touch toes back dat ass up and down and get low (get low)
Bend over to the front touch toes back dat ass up and down and get low (get low)

3,6,9 standing real fine move it to you sing it to me one mo time
Get low, Get low [6x]
To the window, to the wall, (to dat wall)
To the sweat drip down my balls (MY BALLS)
To all these bitches crawl (crawl)
To all skit skit motherfucker (motherfucker!) all skit skit got dam (Got dam)
To all skit skit motherfucker (motherfucker!) all skit skit got dam (Got dam)

———–Versus Led Zeppelin (I think this is just great poetry)———–

“Kashmir”

Oh let the sun beat down upon my face, stars to fill my dream
I am a traveler of both time and space, to be where I have been
To sit with elders of the gentle race, this world has seldom seen
They talk of days for which they sit and wait and all will be revealed

Talk and song from tongues of lilting grace, whose sounds caress my ear
But not a word I heard could I relate, the story was quite clear
Oh, oh.

Oh, I been flying… mama, there ain’t no denyin’
I’ve been flying, ain’t no denyin’, no denyin’

All I see turns to brown, as the sun burns the ground
And my eyes fill with sand, as I scan this wasted land
Trying to find, trying to find where I’ve been.

Oh, pilot of the storm who leaves no trace, like thoughts inside a dream
Heed the path that led me to that place, yellow desert stream
My Shangri-La beneath the summer moon, I will return again
Sure as the dust that floats high in June, when movin’ through Kashmir.

Oh, father of the four winds, fill my sails, across the sea of years
With no provision but an open face, along the straits of fear
Ohh.

When I’m on, when I’m on my way, yeah
When I see, when I see the way, you stay-yeah

Ooh, yeah-yeah, ooh, yeah-yeah, when I’m down…
Ooh, yeah-yeah, ooh, yeah-yeah, well I’m down, so down
Ooh, my baby, oooh, my baby, let me take you there

Let me take you there. Let me take you there

——–That alone should be an indicator of why modern music sucks—-

floss says:

RE:

maybe looking on fm radio is a bad idea. i live in portland oregon, and all of the radio stations besides k-boo and the secret one blow. but locally you can pretty easily find what you are looking for. and of course, if you don’t like the music you hear, make your own. it’s pretty easy these days. you don’t really even need experience or talent in certain instances! it seems that today music is nothing more than another consumer product designed for instant gratification. but that is certainly NOT the case in all instances…

tons of bands put out tons of releases EVERY DAY. music has been turned into just another pill to be swallowed and get instant gratification from. part of the fun back in the day was the hunt! if you actually spend time looking you might find something decent… try going to a local show. you might just find your favorite new band lives a block away!!!

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Agreed...mostly

I agree with most of the points here, but I do like some modern bands. Whenever I hear the term “modern music”, I think of the mainstream, which is R&B, pop, rap, ect. I may not like these genres at all, but I have good reason. A lot of these pop songs that come out these days are not even technically “music”.

First off, whenever we have the radio on in the car, or my sisters are watching the Disney Channel(Don’t get me started on how terrible that crap is) I hear not much difference between the songs, but a ridiculously large difference from earlier music. They almost completely kill of guitar, load up the synths with very high, long and unnecessarily long notes, and replace acoustic drums with hip-hop drums. They then make up all the lines of the song, making sure that almost every line rhymes with the previous one, and finally, bash it all together with a very unhealthy overuse of sound effects and autotune. They set it to an equally overkilled music video, call it music, ship it to be bought and broadcasted, and it gets overrated. Rinse, wash, repeat.

Technology is starting to really take over people’s lives. I wish I grew up a while back than this terrible age so I could have listened to real music on the radio, that real artists actually put time, dedication and care into creating, earning their fans the right way.

*Sighs* What has our planet come to?

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Dennis Teel (profile) says:

the author point out that he’s a product of the 70’s.like others from that era,he doesn’t care for much past that period.unfortunatley most people that were teens in the 70’s tht i’ve met in the pastseem to have a shrine to the 70’s image in their heads.i’m an 80’s music finatic..imo 70’s music sucks.sorry buti like the synthesiser and other gadgets used in the 80’s/.crosby stills and nash suck..period/.the days of one guy sitting in the chair on stage with is acoustic (croce anyone?),playing dylanesque tunes are gone..thank god!

Dante524 says:

I like A few modern music

I’m a 11 yr old and I’m saying i don’t like rap or Nicki Manaj half of the kids in my school like her. But there is a few good bands here like Blink -182 with there new album Neighborhoods and Angels and Airwaves with LOVE part 2.Note that Tom Delonge is the singer and guitarist of both bands.Heck if More people Listened to Gorillaz They be Mainstream crap like todays music.

Dante524 says:

Part 2

Sorry if i’m spamming.But I notice Most rappers and “singers” Don’t have singing talents.All they use is Auto tune I’m talking to you T-pain.If you can’t sing then don’t be a musician,Do something your good at.Also music that is played at my school is they dirty music that are hyped for you to download it for 1.00$.Seriously now i’m afraid whats future music going to be? I want to be Teenage grudge like the 90s or Rock like Blink 182 Matchbox twenty and Angels and airwaves. I think i rest my case.

Nick Bell says:

Most music today...SUCKS!

I am 11 and I hate the music that most kids my age listens to. Pop, rap, dubstep etc are NOT music, it’s just a bunch of autotuned noise. I never saw the appeal of these genres, they are constantly forced down my throat by the media. I love rock, metal, alternative and punk. I hate being made fun of by other kids in my age group just because I prefer rock over this top 40 garbage. I do like some modern rock and metal bands though but 80 percent of the music I like is from the 90s and before.

Some good newer bands in my opinion: The Mars Volta, Them Crooked Vultures, Wolfmother, Rise Against, Archic Monkeys, Mastodon, Disturbed, System of a Down, Arcade Fire, The Strokes, The White Stripes, just to name a few.

Nick Bell (yet again) says:

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The only good modern music is within the rock and metal genres. I never liked rap, pop, dubstep, techno etc at all. People tell me that I am looking at the wrong stuff, but I don’t even like underground/old school rap/R&B/pop etc either. I just think that it’s boring. Just my opinion.

Rap is degrading to women, racist to whites and it’s a disgrace to music. There are no instruments in pop, rap etc. It’s just all electronic crap. Plus, the lyrics of the “songs” have no meaning whatsoever. The only purpose of this crap is to get you to dance, I don’t want to dance.

So yeah. Most music these days is just shallow crap. My generation can have their Justin Bieber and all that garbage. I am sticking to my rock, alternative, grunge, old punk and metal. No one can tell me otherwise. I am glad I am one of those kids today who listens to music because I like it, not because it’s popular.

Dennis Teel (profile) says:

i don’t know how many of you actually remember the 80’s and very early 90’s..i do..but yet id’ still forgotten just how versatil and awesome the music was.i ordered a set of dvd’s(music videos)from the 80’s which in total amounted to a total of 372 music videos in the entire set.i went through al of these within a week.music in the 80’s was so much more colorful both in lyric and in appaerance in the 80’s even the early 90’s.the music sacrificed the political and social messages crap that the 70’s was full of and gave us good times and party music plus the love songs and romance and heartbreak tunes.the 80’s wasa time that we had pop and rock and counntryaand it wasn’t socially unacceptable to like all of it.rock and pop and even some country was basically being played on the same station.even though every major city had a ‘only rock’ format station,most stations played all of it as a mix/.the 80’s was a much happier decade to those who were old enough to enjoy it and remember it.to make a generalised but true statement(to keep this post from going into 6 more paragraphs)the 80’s was colorful..flashy colors..clorful geometric designs were popular in recird cover art and in in advertising and sales(billboards,magazines)squares,triangles,squiggly lines,etc..don’t know why that part of the decade died away but it seemed to disappear in the 90’s..as well as the color and flashy glitter and all.seems like when rap and hip hop became predomionant,things went from being colorful and flashy designs and glitter to earth tones and repetition and blah..and then came the 2000’s.ugh!!!!

Tembisa says:

Ignorance = Fairplay

Yeeeaaah! Woooohooo! Word :p.

Music is incredibly personal, it’s like a direct channel to the soul. The worst thing about the oligopoly of mass-produced generic crap these days is that it hogs the limelight and makes it look like that’s all there is. So the lazy/inexperienced shopper can’t see the huge mass of music available.. but to the rest of us, thank god for the internet :).

I’ve got this little ongoing mission to fill my laptop with only, I said only, songs that speak to my bones. The collection that has developed since I began a couple of years ago covers the globe (Spanish rock, French folk, Mali blues, Lusophonic beats, Finnish electronica, Italian reggae, South African township pop…)and is spread over time (from Chopin to Ernest Ranglin and Muddy Waters, through Chicken Shack and Steppenwolf, Bob Marley, Nirvana, the Distillers, Tracy Chapman and into Citizen Cope, Dido and Joonas Hahmo). Thousands of artists – totally different and equally awesome. However the one place my music doesn’t touch is the 2000’s top 40-chart…

I’ve just been stuck in the flat all day with a building crew (kitchen getting fitted) and they were blazing the top-40 radio station for hours… and it hit me. This music is so lazy! Everything was electronic except for the seconds where you could maybe make out the original sound of some silly twats voice… and it wasn’t anything special or interesting or even pleasant. Like you know how good actors are charismatic – there’s an equivalent for good voices. And the noise! Just a mess of electronic splats with some pathetic 2-bar melody repeating endlessly in the middle of it. The singer’s only purpose is to give the tune a marketing tag. This fart is garnished with ‘Lady Gaga’.

There are like 4 messages which somebody has decided will reach everybody and therefore is guaranteed a safe sell; ‘I love you/want you’, ‘I don’t love you/want you anymore’, ‘I’m hot/rich’ and ‘I am going to party hard’. And it doesn’t get any deeper into those themes than repeating some version of those lines ooooover and oooover again. Mainstream lyrics today are like a postcard version of a book. Just naked exploitation. It’s masturbation.

Anyway, yah. Look out for the good stuff. It’s there, it just takes time and experimentation to find, and I gotta say it – the whole world, every country and city, is creating good music all the time. Even the poorest people in the poorest townships in Africa are getting their hands on the means to record music, and they’ll surprise you with their innovation and freshness. You just have to find it.

Okay, I’ll stop the rant here :). Love n peace B-)

Dennis teel (profile) says:

examples

1.in the 40’s bing crosby and the andrews sisters
the sounds and songs differed from one another,even though there was no synthesizer ..piano,horns,percussion,etc.but songs had melody and didn’t the first sonfg didn’t sound like the second,the second like the third and so on.

2.the 50’s-the same as above,xcept the artists and sound was different with elvis,the rays,little richard,richie valens,etc..(buddy holly btw)okay call it teeny bopper if you want-the songs were honestly felt,melodic,even the rock hits had actual tunes back then.the writers and singers were serious ,not just quick buck sucking./
3. came the 60’s,the beach boys,beatles,the(rolling)stones,eric burdon and the animals,sonny and cher(don’t laff),herman’s hermits,the list goes on///okay//not hard rock//but van morrison and them dida head blowing song called “gloria”..and ray davies and the kinks-all day and all the night.what did that imply? wink wink nod nod- all songs were different.had a melody.even the liies of the animals and them and the stones who were even back then doing hard rock material were writing songs that didn’t clone one another and there was real honeststuff there,not “grab the money and vacation for a year” stuff./
even the light romantic pop stuff like hey paul by paul and paula had strength to it.
4.70’s had eric clapton,cream,santana,the doors,deep purple,king crimson,vanilla fudge,free,the list goes on..tons of artists.melodic.alice cooper.the LP billion dollar babies.excellent/even the had rock had a tune.a melody.some real thought behind the writing.the talent itself matching artists of the 40’s 50’s 60’s but just different sounds.all decades above were alive with music.
even 70’s disco was vibrant and had a polished HQ sound and luster to it.
5.the 80’s was much as the previous decades.from video killed tthe radio star by the buggles to the bangles eternal flame to walk like an egyptian
from heart’s alone to the human leagues “human” and “obsession” the 80’s had artist’s usingthe magic of synthesizers an did it all with passion.the nntion of “let’s make noise grunt and repeat stupid crap over and over again and sing stuff we can lip synch on stage if we need to” cam about later in the mid 90’s with a style of ..something..called rap..then hip hop was added to only worsen the situation.the 80’s saw some rap pass by(tone loc’s wild thing and funky cold medina) but thoise were actually good songs.there was some thought..some real talent behind those songs.i have no idea what the other tracks on that record sound like but those 2 made the air waves because they were good./those 2 examples however are two out of how many??imo..two things destroyed ..wait..3 things aided in destroying rock and pop/ one is rap music.nuff said..hip hop music..ditto..the recording industry’s greed –artists’s used to get personal with their lable and the industry and they worked together to create a product that was good and was created with real thought and pen strokes.long story short ..it’s not that way at all anymore./i’ve been collecting records since i was 5 years old.i’n 57 years old now and my apartment looks like a small studio./i saw and heard some real potential in evanescence and flyleaf when they were new bands and the popular bands to listen to.what..early..mid 2000’s??they had great debut cd’s.i think i have evanesvence 2nd cd as well.something happened real fast with boith bands i didn’t like,their stuff fastly became repetitious.sound familiar?seems to be what’s in..repetition..over and over again.very little effort with big pay./i still listen to bing andrews sisters(40’s),clapton,deep purple,king crimson(70’s)the human league,the bangles,psychedelic furs(80’s)elton john,deep purple,herman’s hermits,early stones(60’s and 70″s).i still listen to early evanescence,flyleaf,dido and nina gordon and i tolerate watching tv when lady gaga and fergie are guesting..i recently saw someone called robyn on SNLand then found out it was an old episode and that robyn isn’t as popular now and might not even be around anymore..i dunno/i kind of liked her first song that night.the second fell in line with sucky and repetitious.1 out of 2 ain’t bad? oops,,that’s 2 out of 3 ain’t bad.(another great song)

Jonathan says:

RIP MUSIC

OK so im 13 and modern day “MUSIC” that is played on the radio is ABSOLUTE SHIT… Now, iv found that i can listen to some modern day heavy metal and metalcore (some of you may refer to it as “screamo” ) but only a few bands, namely, Avenged Sevenfold, Bullet for My Valentine, Black Tide and only about 4 Black Veil Brides songs.. But i still love the older music like Aerosmith, Van Halen, Metallica (my fav), Slayer, Ozzy, and Green Day (even tho they aint old i just threw em in there.) I absolutely cant STAND modern day generic pop bullshit thats considered music.. DA FUQ IS NIKKI MINAJ? EVERY ONE OF HER SONGS SOUNDS LIKE SHE HAS A SIEZURE IN THE MIDDLE! Like wtf. How does someone seriously listen to a song called “Stupid Hoe”… Rlly..? Rlly people.. A single rock song has more emotion and talent than every rap and pop song today COMBINED. Do i care what car the latest rapper stole? Do i care who the lastbitch they raped was? NO! I DONT GIVE A FLYING FUCK! Music has gone to hell, and unless someone puts music thats GOOD out into the public, nobody is gonna find it unless teyre educated by their parents (like me!) or they found em on youtube (again, like me.) i strive to be the odd one out.. I constantly try to find NEW MUSIC thats GOOD AND ORIGIONAL. Again, black tide is a REALLY good band out of Miami Fl. They were just 14 when they released their first album and theyre 18 for their second, REALLY goodmusic. And its really sad that most people only look up a GOOD song to bag on it and its fans and then advertise the shit they listen to.. Well thats my two cents so, yeah.

Juliev (profile) says:

It's Simple Really

As much as I would love to bash how bad plenty of music on the radio is. or how many horrible “artists” there are nowadays.. This is simple as.. you don’t like it.. don’t listen to it.. If you don’t like the radio.. don’t turn it on. Do your best to keep on looking for the new artists/bands that are actually good in your opinion and listen to them and share them to other people enough to make them commercial enough to be on the radio. And even if they won’t go on the radio, help them out. make good artists famous. I would be ecstatic if one day I heard one of my favorite bands or artists playing on the radio..What a revelation it would be.. Good music is commercial.. just remember that if you want something try for it. theres nothing wrong with voicing an opinion, but after just do your best to make it better , that is, if you’re willing.

Liam says:

Music today (mostly) sucks

Led Zeppelin (1973)

Let me take you to the movies, can I take you to the show
Let me be yours ever truly, can I make your garden grow
From the houses of the holy we can watch the white doves go
From the door comes Satan’s daughter, and it only goes to show
and you know

Nicki Minaj (2012)

And I ain’t hit that note,
But, fuck you stupid hoe
Yeah, fuck you stupid hoe
I said fuck a stupid hoe,
Yeah, fuck a stupid hoe
I said fuck a stupid hoe,
Yeah, fuck a stupid hoe
I said fuck a stupid hoe
Yeah, fuck a stupid hoe

Comparison of lyrics of a popular song from the past to a popular song today.

Samster1998 says:

Music Today!

LOL this discussion has literally been going on for 7 years. The first comment was first made in 2005. Any way on a serious note. I agree MAINSTREAM music today is terrible, nothing is original. We have all seen it before. The same crap over and over again. Finding good music today is like searching for a diamond in a very big pile of manure. You have to literally search through the internet for HOURS to find good music. Because YouTube is filled to the brim with crap..

BrandanDR says:

Dude the best bands are Deep Purple in there later years with the hard rock sought of thing. Van Halen with there amazing albums like 5150 and unlawful carnage. and Night Ranger as they play a mix of deep purple and van halen, they have some cheerful songs like The colour of your Smile, and they normmaly play somgs about love.Pink Flyod are a good band but their music is more dreamy for me, they are good just not my type of music.although i do have 1 or 2 albums by them. Also their is some talent in modern Artists, like Adele can sing, i don’t like her songs to much, not enough rock in it for me, but she has an amazing voice. I’m in a bank at school and most of the music we play are 1960’s to 1990’s with some newer songs. Blues is pretty cool. once in one of my classes some asked me who is better kurser i think or 360 and i thought they were taking about pc or xbox. I can’t wait for another school concert, i so much fun on stage, i get so pumped in the soundchech and then i have to wait my turn. luckily we play most of the songs now as the senors left. the only thing is that i can’t stage dive as i play drums. i always wanted to do that. And we jam could jam for hours at school, not so much at home because of nextdoor. i sometimes jam with my dad at home though. im gonna stop now cause i will go on forever if i don’t. on last thing, my band is gonna bring back superbands i can feel it. We are gonna change the world, in a good way.I plan to donate a lot of money, not to cancer treatment but help pay morgages, and stuff. we may need money but i don’t care about it much.

victoria says:

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i dont listen to the radio because only 25 percent of the music (in my opinion) is good. adele, taylor swift, and a few others are good. but the majority really needs to have more talent, they all seem to be missing the wow factor. i listen to the 80’s all the way down to the 30’s, why because their is a quality old music has that modern can’t seem to grasp. music back in the day had real instruments, and singers that didn’t swear every five seconds. i keep seeing people close to my age (im soon to be 14) and all adults seem to be saying things like “well although you are young, i agree with you” 14 and up isn’t really that young, teenagers can be very mature and know things that other adults might not even know. sometimes i feel like a 30 year old women, stuck in a young body. so just because im young doesn’t mean i dont know what im talking about. Im telling the truth when i say that modern music, actually modern culture period is ALL BAD. i would have liked to grow up in the seventies or eighties…..

Dwarn says:

golden age of heavy metal

I have read all the comments. The situation is even worse than any of you have stated.

Music in general has been in big trouble since 1992. There have been no new forms of music that have been allowed to flourish in the last twenty years. Everything is stale; it is like being trapped in a locked bank vault where the oxygen is slowly being used up and there is no fresh air to replace it. Any artistic expression that has the potential to succeed in captivating and stimulating the hearts and minds of large numbers of people is now censored immediately upon discovery, unless the artist can be purchased and his/her work altered to suit the buyer?s wishes, marketed to specific demographics, and mass-produced into mere commodities priced for retail sale.

Digital technology replacing analog also had a lot to do with suppressing musical creativity as well. One commenter mentioned the loudness war, and that was right on.

I’m a longtime heavy metal fan, and I can say with absolute certainty that there was a true “golden age” of heavy metal that took place between the years 1983 and 1991. I wrote an entire essay on it here:
http://12160.info/profiles/blogs/the-true-spirit-of-heavy-metal

Another fan of true heavy metal wrote something very similar here:
http://www.pajiba.com/music/the-golden-age-of-metal.php

But when the golden age ended, it ended for ALL music, including rap and hip hop. All creative forces for rap and hip hop were annihilated in 1992 as well. This was because of a deal between the music industry and the private prison industry. Private prison company executives wanted to make sure the prisons stayed full, and they enlisted the help of gangster rap.

It was all over after that. We’re still suffocating, and YouTube is our last hope.

Dwarn says:

Golden Age of Metal

(2nd attempt at posting this comment) Golden Age of Heavy Metal was 1983 to 1991. That was the last time on Earth that there were new, creative ideas in music that were allowed to flourish. If you missed this era, if you didn’t listen to Metallica’s “Master of Puppets” (1986) during this time period and get those chills running down your spine, you pretty much missed everything. Nothing before or since has been as awe-inspiring. The vault door was slammed shut in 1992 and we’ve been breathing nothing but stale air from the music world ever since, in all genres, not just heavy metal. There were over 50 media corporations in 1980, but they were all quietly bought out in the early 1990s; a monopoly of only 6 corporations has continued to dominate all mainstream media and entertainment since 1996. A deal between major record companies and the private prison industry that took place in 1992 made sure gangster rap was heavily promoted more than anything else. The object was to keep the prisons full by promoting thug / gang / criminal acts in music. The grunge scene was promoted specifically to kill the metal scene. The post- 1992 music industry heavily frowned upon shredding guitar solos, independent thought, and politically conscious lyrics, and so, any bands like that slowly disappeared from all media and major record stores. There were a few survivors, but the damage done was so severe, I don’t think there will be another golden age in our lifetime, even with YouTube.

Diagoras says:

It's true

The amount of original music has dropped off dramatically in the past 15 years or so, in ALL genres. Even the indie rock is awful, being just as generic as the mainstream crap. It’s embarrassing.

And no, I don’t think the music from my generation was the best, so this isn’t about snobbery. It’s just that there are only 12 notes, and pretty much everything has been done with those 12 notes. I hear these cheesy fashion rock bands, and immediately recognize that their music will disappear into a black hole in 5 or 10 years, never to be heard again. I predicted this exact thing back in the 90’s, with the rapid decline we saw at that time, and that’s exactly what happened. Rock/pop/r&b is dead.

jake says:

music today do not suck

funny thing is that there was just as much awful music back in the golden old days as there is now. here’s the thing, you just don’t remember it and only remember the good stuff.

good music of this era: between the buried and me, the mountain goats, foster the people, the dillinger escape plan, mastodon, empire! empire! (i was a lonely real estate), andrew jackson jihad, fleet foxes, the black keys, that is to name a few. stop looking at music on the radio and acting like if it’s the only thing around. you got internet and you can find so much good music.

better yet, form your own band like i am about to do.

keep on living in the past and keep listening to nothing but boring dad rock while i enjoy the good music of today and yesterday.

joe says:

Indie is a good bitch,but mainstream are full of niggers with money,motherfuckers black peaces of shit,those monkeys as Jay Z and Kanye West and Eminem that Albino nigger,they are crapping and pissing american music off.Somebody must to kill this hip pop niggers,kill them,terminate them,with a gun,aim it to nick minaj s head and shoot her down,same as jay z asshole and kanniger west.Die Nigger,Die!…xterminnigers..
kill niggers mom,and dad,and son,die niggers… .and finally we have good music again…cause niggers are dead..

FOODFACE says:

music is really shit

not all rap is bad. the rap from the 80s and early 90s, guys like afrikaa bambatta and grandmaster flash and 2pac were talkin’ about freedom, and you could UNDERSTAND THEIR SHIT. You can still hear good old rap in brooklyn. i’m 13 but i hate all the shit going on here? why haven’t the old legends said anything? because of them there isn’t anything going on. personally i like the psychedelic rock stuff like the byrds, iron butterfly, led zeppelin, hendrix, sly and the family stone and the old soul stuff like the isleys james brown sam and dave otis redding the temptations the four tops the supremes billy paul the o’jays the spinners the 5th dimensioon and a whole bunch more plus heavy metal like ozzy black sabbath deep purple stone temple pilots and more. back then the rockers knew how to kick fucking ass. they had a distinctive sound. there was a difference between rock and pop. back then a song that wasn’t no.1 still kicked ass,like the isleys summer breeze with the killer guitar and bass solos and the 5th dimension’s up up and away.listen to stuff like gangam style. people have no fucking idea about what that psy guy is saying and its no.1! there is a small glimmer of hope in england however, ppl like adele, amy winehouse, mark ronson and florence and the machine are really breaking new ground. listen to florence and the machine, totally accoustic but so nice and fucking melodic. the american music? sucks. music dosen’t have any great idols anymore. bands like boyzone are all old hags and dun wanna grow up. boy bands like the beatles and the beach boys and even the jackson 5 grew up when they knew it was time and made shit that still rocks today. the jackson 5 was a boy band, and they sang better than even adults could. they probably set the standard for boy bands. black people used to have idols like ray charles stevie wonder and michael jackson to look up to. now they’re all gone,except for stevie, and their culture is declining with it too. if you wanna listen to music that’s breaking new ground, listen to florence and the machine and mark ronson. this industry is just filled with gay fags like bieber and 1D, and this is what’s making boys even more gay. where the fuck is steven tyler? look at his dressing. he’s nearly 65 and dresses like a fucking punk, like the rolling stones. learn from these people. they’re all out on cd and on the internet for free. just listen to dance to the music or i’ll be there or what’s going on or dream on or living for the city or the isleys summer breeze, and you’ll dig what i’m saying.

ben says:

Todays Music

science proves its worse
, the pitch content of music has shriveled somewhat. The basic pitch vocabulary has remained unchanged?the same notes and chords that were popular in decades past are popular today?but the syntax has become more restricted. Musicians today seem to be less adventurous in moving from one chord or note to another, instead following the paths well-trod by their predecessors and contemporaries.?

The pop music study?s findings were published in the July 26th online edition of Scientific Reports.
Read more at http://www.inquisitr.com/285841/pop-music-homogenized-study-finds-kids-these-days-dont-understand-good-music/#xeDyCBEJVYr0cFyb.99

Niki (user link) says:

From Indonesia: I also agree,..but what can we DO about it?

I’m a Gen Y from Indonesia, and yes, I also wholeheartedly agree with this article & a lot of the comments here, glad I’m not alone,..but the most important thing is: what can we *DO* about it?
if we’re just complaining here endlessly, then it will be just that: mere complaining!
I think it would be best if EACH of us here can start taking ACTIONS, for example:
1) by supporting (& buying) the REAL, talented artists/musicians & their products out there
2) by boycotting the “mainstream” crappy pop-artists’ products (eg: CD, concerts, etc)
3) talk about this to your ignorant friends etc, especially “trend-followers” type of people
4) join together and do some kind of strike, protest, or petition to the music labels
5) if you have some big money and/or big connection, perhaps try to invent or create another business-system that can SUPPORT the real talents, instead of the crappy mass-produced so-called “artists”.
6) create your OWN music, to protest against the ‘mainstream’ crappy artists/musicians/music today/nowadays.
7) etc etc.. the list could be endless, the limit is your creativity.

fuck the money, fuck the capitalist world says:

Oh Come on ...

One of today’s problems is mentioned early in your statement..20 to 30 years back from now, radio stations, electronics companies etc… were all about making the customer satisfied and competed a lot over quality build and performance…radio stations cared also for what the listener is presented with, back then, people did what they did with love, enthusiasm and dedication..nowadays, the only thing that matters is to make money money money, fuck the customer, selling crap shit that breaks down in the first days, weeks after use..radios follow the same path, fuck the listener, if he doesn’t like change station, people have become so fucking selfish that they only see money in front of their shit blind $.$ eyes..i have a tv at home for example, with more that 40 years, weights in about 80Kg, still black and white, connect the plug and turn it on..still working as a clock, newer ones after a few years broke down, all of them, but it is only an example, the problem is generalized, buy a car battery for ex..20 years back from now a car battery could last for 15~18 Years of service, nowadays the average life cycle is 3 to 5 years and sometimes only a year and a few months it is completely trashed..we are assisting a decline in quality in almost everything, manufacturers do not give a shit if the customers are happy with the products or not, the only thing that matters is the fucking money, those people should all fall in misery and do not even have money for buying food, that would teach them a hard lesson about life, radio stations are the same shit, they are capable of airing the same music 500 times a day just because of the money, people are giving too much importance to money, money means nothing, why should someone be considered more important than another just because he has more money? since when do money decide the type of person someone is/are? people have become so stupid and materialist that it is funny to see their dedication to money as if it were the most important thing in their lives, money should not even be created in the first place, money is a way to explore the masses of the people in this shitty capitalist world where money defines the personal status of someone…yes, i have a ferrari, i am awesome yeah…i have a ten million dollar home, yeah, come on money corrupts and changes people’s minds making them become selfish, arrogant, stupid, and a lot more of that shit…WE WERE BORN TO BE EQUALS, WE WERE BORN TO HAVE THE SAME RIGHTS, WE WERE BORN TO HAVE THE RIGHT TO LIVE A LIFE THAT IS NOT ONLY TO KISS THE BOSS’S BOOTS JUST TO RECIEVE AN EXTRA BUCK, someday who knows that will change, the world is beautiful, but people are fucking it and ruining it completely just because of the money…are they gonna shove them up their asses and take the money with them when they die? we only live life once, i think it is an infinite stupidity to dedicate life for the sake of money, why not dedicate life to socialize? to be free of exploring bosses? to enjoy life as it was meant to be enjoyed? to be happy without worrying about the damn money? i must be really smart or really dumb, but if i could, i would dedicate my entire life for the sake of pleasing everyone, not to try to gather millions of bucks, today’s life only injects us with poison, the only thing that matters is money don’t say it isn’t because all you know it is the most important thing for most people..not to me sorry, i value much more the human life and well being than money..fuck the money and those blind goats that do not care if they make hundreds of people miserable just to get what they want. money

J.B. says:

Not all of today's music is bad

Funny thing is that we have the internet and we have more music available than ever before. To be honest, mainstream has always been crap for the most part. You may have a few gems in a sea of crap, but that’s rare. There was just as much awful music back then as there is today, the thing is that you don’t remember all of the crap you were exposed to, you remember the good stuff, hence why older music seems better. Good music isn’t limited to decades, good music is good music regardless of genre or decade. All you people complaining about how much all music “sucks” today should get out and start exploring music beyond the top 40 charts. I’ll get you started

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ljhz_eGFPAw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yVDhuFMMa9k
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=shCEgPzUCo8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KX8ebGCzGeo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cQcE4_7-X78

I can go on all day, but there is a lot of good music coming out these days, you will just have to know where to find it. You won’t find it on the radio, that’s for sure.

Jodi says:

This article is so true!!! I love music and I grew up listening to my parents music. I remember when I was in first grade this particular song came out on the radio. Every time, my mom would drive me to school I’d hear that song. To this day, I still have memories of me listening to that song in the car on my way to school. You just don’t get that same feeling anymore with the music that is being produced nowadays. There is only a few newer artist that I really love. Josh Groban, Michael Buble are just a few examples. I love Country music as well. I do feel that music has gone down the tubes. For example, when I go on youtube and watch old music videos from back in the days I always see comments written by teenagers saying they hate the music that is out nowadays. What does that say??? Teenagers don’t even like their own music of today. That’s pretty darn sad! It used to be you listen to radio and you’d hear a wonderful song that made you feel wonderful on the inside. Now, you listen to music on the radio and you feel like crap. There is no appreciation for good music. People don’t buy records, tapes and CD’s anymore to listen good quality music. Instead, they get one song off itunes and they enjoy it for a week and then there off listening to another new artist. I love listening to Josh Groban because his songs are so unique. They make you really feel good inside. The same goes for Michael Buble. He is an amazing artist and has an appreciation for good music. What’s really sad is that someday, when I do have children they will never get to experience the power of good music. Being an 80’s child was wonderful because I got to experience listening to wonderful music. In my own opinion… it’s really sad that kids don’t get to appreciate good music at all!!! 🙁

green says:

Today's music sucks

Let’s watch some today’s movie. What songs you hear?

That’s right. The music of 60’s and 70’s.

Why?

Because todays music is not ART. Lack of skills and talents.

Try listen today’s music, what did you hear?

That’s right. VOICES from the begining to end. No instrumental skill involved. No melody at all. The singer think that the instrument will ruin their voice and performance on stage.

I have kids 13 and 14 years old. They listened to Bruno Mars because they want to dress like him, today’s idol. But when they really want to listening, they listened my own record, such Crosby, Stills, Nash and Young and Procol Harum.

Cherie Smith says:

no, actually, modern music DOES suck

I’m only 14 years old and I d e s p I s e nowadays music, I’m not a lonely nerd or anything who doesn’t know what its like to be popular and get stoned with the popular gangs and rave to the top hot music on the charts, but, how am I supposed to rave to shit that has no tune whatsoever. Seriously they play a guitar and think there a fucking rockstar! They makes songs that anyone can make up. I don’t know how anyone can enjoy this type of music! I say its time to go back round the cirle and listen to the beautiful amazing music from history. Whether its the glam rock 70’s- Gary Glitter-Do you wanna touch, Bowie-Diamond Dogs, or the frickern elvis and johnny cash times! Me and my friends were at a party and put on johnny be good and we danced our asses of too it! Everyone was just staring at first but then they got into it and was mint! Where’s the nowadays rock bands? The wanted? One direction. People ‘love’ 1D but personally I don’t know the names to any of the songs haha! Where’s the class U2 music? Or van halen, europe, bon jovi? Joan Jett I love rock n roll was an absolute class song, don’t hear music like that anymore:( Madonna-Holiday + all the rest of her unreal outstanding songs! But its not just the music! Its the style, the fashion that comes along with it too. On the music videos people are wearing ‘GEEK’ tops and ‘JERK’ tops and looking exactly the same as eachother. Why can’t singers have there own style anymore. Their should be people like Adam Ant out there! Not every singer dressing the same. God help us. I come from such an uncool decade. But its not just me. People in my school and that I know are listening to rhythm is a dancer,and mr vain by culture beat and n trance set you free… Stop thinking about frickern money and think about how fabulous you can make the music + style era be!

Mk says:

music has sucked for over a decade now!

can you believe this thread is nearly 10 years old? and yes, music has sucked since the 90’s. any era then or previous had some great melodies, talent, ideas. since then, it is boring! parents aren’t meant to be offended by their childrens boringness, it should be the other way round! all this “Genre-Free” and “I Like Everything” bollocks annoys the shit out of me too. Its OK to have an attitude and to disagree, kids!

Anonymous Coward says:

Modern Music Sucks

Enough of the robotic crap music of today, why did the machines have to invade this art too? It’s a mirror of how modern society and life sucks balls. The only good stuff out there today is…Symphonic Heavy Metal, and perhaps some innovative indies. Mainstream radio is gay…and getting gayer by the year.

You want REAL music, try America from the 70’s. If that type of stuff were hot on the mainstream radio these days, many kids would be a lot smarter and awakened.

Zeitgeist War says:

Of Course...

Eliane Laurett Souza,you Stupid Materialistic Whore,i knew that some naylor dude fucked your ass up in usa,and im laughing about this history,because all the shit youve done to me i hope make your internet s life and real life,as most as miserable as possible,pray everyday for your fucking ghosts,because all your runic wicthcrap can save you for your destiny,that is pay me for what you did,i dont want to put you inside a fireplace and torch your body till the ground!!thats what you deserve….

Luke. says:

I disagree.

The thing is that the vast majority of people who say that ALL music sucks now only look at what is played on the radio and TV. If you only look at the top 40 charts for music, of course you will be disappointed.

Not all music these days is bad, I can name several albums from this year that I think should be classics in the future, but you know why they may not become classics? Because people are too busy whining about how ALL music sucks these days when you are actually only looking at the top 40 charts. Justin Bieber isn’t the end of all music, you know.

Let’s get out there and explore music, look beyond the top 40 charts, turn off terrestrial radio. Good music is still out there you know, you’ll just have to look. Better yet, if you are so dissatisfied with the music of today, make your own music and see if you can do better. Do something to change the industry just like those old bands/musicians that we all love so much, instead, you all whine. Whining and complaining will only get you so far.

Not all music from the past was great, the thing is that you are looking at the past through rose colored glasses; therefore, you have forgotten about all of the clunkers in the history of music and you remember all of the good bands/singers/musicians, which is why yesterday’s music seems better than today’s music. Yes, there is a lot of crap out there now, but music’s no worse or better than it used to be, you are just looking in the wrong places.

Bottom line, there is still plenty of good music today, just turn off terrestrial radio and start looking for good music. There is a lot more to music than what the media feeds you.

Justin says:

Oh Come on ...

True! Most radio totally sucks even classic rock radio sucks because typically the best songs on an album are never played. I do like a lot of new music though and many of the bands are excellent but they don’t fit the radio format so no one ever knows who the bands are unless you go to a lot of concerts to see new music. I live in denver and go to a lot of inexpensive shows to see touring bands I’ve never heard of and there are some dandy’s out there. Just to list a few. Jerry Joseph and the jack Mormons, white denim, the heartless bastards, James McMurtry, cornmeal, drive by truckers, Jackie green, delta spirit. I could name a hundred more. A young gal I work with is trying to get me into imagine dragons and panic at the disco. They suck. It’s sappy bubble gum garbage. I don’t have the heart to tell her though so I just gave her some stuff of mine instead. Then u have bands who started out good and totally sold out like Kings of Leon. Their first 2 CDs were awesome. After that they went mushy and sappy and I think they completely suck. Anyway point is there is e excelent rock to be heard you just have to look for it.

Pianist says:

Musician

I read most of the comments here. I think my taste is different than most people when it comes to music. I love Music with no lyrics..just the sound of instruments. Like piano, guitar, violin, trumphet etc. All instrumental. I don’t care about modern music crap..especially rap if you minus the c.

Connection from the music to your heart is what a good music should be.

The Guitar Man says:

Where do I begin

I hate about 80-90% of songs on the radio right now. Everything was fine until the hip-hop and dances days of the 90s (at least Nirvana were good). Honestly, Those two genres are just another of saying ‘shitty pop’. I can remember in 2005-07 music was better than what it is today. It had more of a rock sort of side. Today, I just rock bottom. Even alternative music is not that great (Imagine Dragon I can hardly call alternative). At least some bands (like Temples and Tame Implala) get the idea.

Tisna Nugraha says:

Even the Kids Today think modern music sucks

I’m 12 and I have been listening to modern musics until I realized that they are playing the same songs which is boring. Then I started to here classic rock and it sounds better. My friends (mostly) just like to hear modern pop musics which totally sucks. What’s happening in this world?! Is it because of the tyranny of computers (for musics)? Even my 11 year old brother agrees with me.

OU812 says:

Oh Come on ...

You can blame the Telcom laws of 1996 for that… as far as your radio station comment is concerend. Look It up, I’m not going to explain it.

The music industry now more than ever focuses on young singers, appearance, and create manufactured music to turn the quickest dollar possible. I guess as far as appearance is concerned you can blame MTV. Yes Video really did kill a radio star. But at least in the 80’s there were many if not the most different kinds of genre being played in mainstream then any other decade in rock history. Just get the Billboard Hot 100 books per decade by Joel Whitburn and decide for yourself.

Take video and the introduction of the World Wide Web, and the Telcom laws of 1996, and that is why music is in trouble. Kids listen to what big business feeds them. With a lot of today’s artists getting the shaft because the music industry won’t give them time to develop, is why you see by far the mainstream music today is the worst it has ever been… on so many levels.

Duncan says:

no, actually, modern music DOES suck

America’s turning dumb?
America is not dumb it’s full blown cant think to save my life retarded

I hate music today because its all the same shit
The older music had diversity but now all the music out today is the same it’s no different from one song to the other look at old rap old country and old rock not one of these genres sounded the same because there were people who actually tried to make music and made their own lyrics I’m 15 I love the old music and bands that actually sounded good like
Gunsnroses,acdc,Ozzie, van Halen and all the other good bands

Oneborn says:

I think it is safe to say that we all have our own opinion on what “good,” music is. The only common theme that I disagree with here, is the fact that all of you are saying that all rap sucks. The problem here is that none of you really seem to have any knowledge of hip hop as a genre. If most of the mainstream rock music is awful, and there are good bands out there if you look hard enough, doesn’t the same apply to this situation as well. Hip Hop didn’t ruin the radio, mainstream media ruins itself.

Melanie says:

There is a lot of good music out there, but if you listen to the radio or watch music videos you will NEVER HEAR IT! How to find great music? Talk to people online, find out what they really really really like, and go listen to it, you’ll find more music that you love than you can handle. Incidently, 99% of great music now exists on very small record labels or is independent of a label. Some of my favourite bands aren’t even signed, and the quality is far ahead that which is on the radio today, or 20 or 30 years ago.

mike says:

I used to go to small venues to catch up and coming bands. I saw my fair share of bands that sucked, and this was when times were good. There was a huge difference between media pushed acts and the regular Joe. Yeah it was just four chords. But it was the correct four chords. The right sound setting, the right rhythm and changes. Ever go to an open mic and hear a hit song that you like only to have loathed it seconds before when you didn’t recognize it. If you ever watch old videos of a band in the studio in the process of writing the song. You will know the engineer did a lot more than just let the tape roll. It was a meticulously slow process of piece by piece. Music Technology has gone stagnant and at the same time became overwhelmingly complicated. A degree in music now requires a business degree, sales and marketing, auto mechanics, electrical engineering, and a recording degree. And art fashion and social studies, and physical fitness. Music is the worst job in the world. For starters it’s stuck in a world of drugs and alcohol, psychos and nitwits. No one pays enough for you to survive. People steal from you and hate you for bizarre reasons. Getting chewed up and spit out is the least of your concerns. When corporations want to steal every penny you deserve. People are better off working for minimum wage and falling into debt.

Jeff says:

Quit complaining, we need solutions.

We get it. The music today is the worst it’s ever been no doubt (but I will awknoledge that there are good songs out there. You just need to look). I find it disgusting to be quite honest. However, we need to quit complaining and find solutions. My proposal is this. Music needs to evolve. How many songs have been produced in the 20th centtury? I don’t know but it’s a shitload. Most of the genres have been exhausted of ideas. I like rock but it has exhausted exhausted itself. How about we change up which instruments we use. There are many instruments out there. One site says nearly 2,000! Most of them we’ve never heard of. The problem is that everyone is playing just a handful of instruments and it would be really hard to be successful because all this mainstream shit is making all the money. No one would want to take a chance on a weird band with a weird combination of instruments. But they don’t get that weird is good! Weird is refreshing and interesting. I play the electric violin and I’m looking to form a band. One of my goals is to make something original and unique that people enjoy. People are right when they say there needs to be more passion. Passion leads to innovation. When you love what you do, you will do it well. It’s sad but everyone nowdays is in it for the money and the industry is saturated with talentless artists. Music is a walking piece of mediocrity. I think there are 2 categories of bad music. There’s the mainstream shit and other just really shitty music. This makes up a lot of today’s music. Then there’s the copy music that seems the same because it’s been done before. When babies are born, they prefer complex sounds, however, after hearing them over and over again, the baby gets bored and looks for a new sound. It’s no different from us. We need something new. The key is innovation.

Gb24 says:

Music sucks

I would kill to go back to the day this article was written. Music continues to get worse and worse. No originality… Nothing to look forward to. Everything sounds the SAME!! That’s why MTV died, and everything is reality tv now. Aside from a couple of flukes, music is officially DEAD! I’m not just talking rock, but hip-hop and even pop! I hate it bc I LOVED music. Now I’m just excited to create playlists on spotify with artists like The Fugees, A Tribe Called Quest, Nirvana, Foo Fighters, Weezer, etc. Everything nowadays is EDM and a person singing over it, or the same rap song about popping bottles at the club, or a Disney channel reject who kids obsess over… I feel bad for this generation.

grayhater says:

you have to dig

By modern music I think we mean crap that’s a five years old or less, to mention anything from the 90’s and under is not modern music we are talking about Todays younger bands, not green day not radiohead that is not Modern music just happens to be they are still around. I personally feel that there is a FEW I mean very few modern bands that sounds good, but not cuz they are original but because they are keeping a sound tradition, a sound formula that worx and this affects all , today’s rock not too good, today’s hip hop is laughable ,2 chainz doesn’t even come close to 2Pac, Goth music became emo, country legends like Johnny Cash and Hank 2nd , became twerking Miley Cyrus and Taylor Swift ( STUPID ) rock stations now have bands that sound borderline like pop country. Thank god for PANDORA I don’t have to listen to today’s lack of trying

haterkilla says:

ok,you have your day beeing polite,but todays music is getting even worse and worse,guess what?some of that executives,didnt taste a shot inside theire asses,death treats and real operations will make them pay…
enter inside a pop crap popstar,and kill him or her and voilá…bring terror to them,fight terror with terror,welcome to terrordome….

Forrest the snow stalker says:

interview with a important man that punched a stupid woman right on her face because she was trying to friendzone him…
td-mr Forrest why this things happened to you and why you did that countermeasure?
F-Im a Brazilian,brunnete type of guy,i did it because this history is too long: all of this shit started in 1992 in high school when i have the unpleasant taste that knew a motherfucker attention whore in my classroom called Eliane Laurett de souza,she becames talking to me trying to talk sweet,probably to make her “friend”called Alexandre jealous because she has a crush on him but only because he was a rich kid and she had a girfriend at that time,and she(Eliane)is a materialistic whore,those kind of woman that only goal is money,its like a hooker,but not a good hooker that is honest women,its all about money,pieces of paper.So she becames to develop a fake friendship with me,i was a teenager at that time,but not so stupid,ive tryied to date a girl called Patricia Miranda,but she was a selfish stupid bastard,i tought she could be lesbian,because another girl called Monica had a jealousy when ive talkint to Pat.I found and felt in love with another girl,light skinned,brown hair,called Danielle,she was sexy and nerdy,that i felt in love with her quick,and after that i could develop some with her,out of school.But lets go back to the Enemy called Eliane,that slut becames to talk to me by the phone,lotsa of times,she is guilt for my parents spent money on phone account,she always trying to call me and call back,and when i talking to her she spent my time with her bullshit talking about esoteric foobar talk like spiritism,ghosts, yoga,softpop new wave 80s artists(thanks whore,now i know who is Ruppert Holmes and Him song,and Robert Smith and The Cure)and all cliched that some stupid pseudo new age girl talk.this was 92.all this stupid situation goes to 93,i was dumb to stand this rain,so she seduces me too much that in 93 i was felt a crush on her,felt love and passion for her,when she called me at phone,she always complaining about a ugly stupid boyfriend called Samir,and i was a dumb to listen to her shittalk,ive made a huge mistake,said to her that i was loving her,and she was fine to me.That time she acted like a slut with me,and we had a fight by the phone,and we decided to no talk with each other no more,two years passed,and i found her in 96 during a bus station,i was on a bus line going to school,and she passed close to me,and kissed my face,but she was skinny,ugly,different,and she told me that she wants to see me again,im like a fool,did a chance to talk to her,97 past and she founds me again,gave me her phone number,and she always found me to talk about her life and i spent my time for nothing,she was dating with another guy and she said that she was going to USA to work and yada yada again,and im listen,like a fool,she saying about she felt in love by a chinese dude little penis,and she was dating with the lp victor charlie in Malaysia some crap like that,after that she traveled to US because she had a husband now Called Mr Holz,her father liked him because he was a white brazilian(btw,Eliane is white,a light skinned brown hair and a pair of beautyful blue eyed stupid girl)maybe her father is a racist,i dont know,maybe he dislikes white kids with curly hair or something,no mixed people in his redneck immigrant dumb head.She had a sister that she talked lotsa bullshit about her,they didnt got along,maybe lilly(eliane) was the villain,but i didnt realise that during that time,i was a nice guy,pure misery.I called her to United States by the public phone,innocently,to have the pleasure(not sexual)to listen her voice,and hear her stories again,im playing the stupid role in the friendzone,but i never imagine that only of her intention she was treat me like a dumb,like a Forest Gump peace of crap,,offended me,cheat me.Once in 98 she talked to me by phone via US,that her husband,now former hurted her(im imagined that guy or raped or violated her or striked her a..during a friendly love act ha ha ha)she didnt explained that so clear,and i was confused about that.so when she came back to Brazil,she starts to work again and travel by the country,and more phone spent time,and i was friendzoned but never had this what a fuck is it,without knowledge about this subject.During the early years of Internet we changed E mails,and after two years in 2001,she decides to visit me in my home,and i was visited her home,it was embarrassing,because after i leave her home,she founded a another guy that was visiting her same day,i felt humiliated,but its will have a payback,i thought,whe she camed im my home,she brought a Smashin Pumpkins video for me and her watch on my tv,my father thoughts that she was my girlfriend,she said that she was the only a beautiful girl that i brought home,but he was wrong because my redhair former girfriend,a white ginger small girl and my Sister s friend was there,but she pretended not be jealous with Eli s presence,it was hard to redhead.
So when 2001 Eliane said to me by the phone that about we date,yes date,find a place to talk,maybe walking on the shore,just to talk,nothing more important,she said that to me to go to her house,and ive arrived there and dang,she wasnt there,probably siting in another s macho lap,i felt humiliated again,offended again,and ive talked to her mother,that im not a dumb and she could respect me,and after that i send a email talking about how eliane was stupid”,she felt as she was targeted by a shot to her ego trip,right betwen the eyes,opened the hurt.and we didnt talk to each other again,till 2006 that she founded me on Orkut social net,and tryied to bother me again,but i payback her again,saying that im not her forest gump,at that time a dated another girls,have sex with some of them,and sent to shut the fuck up and go to hell some kinds of girls like her,i was smart, wiser,and learned by the worst way how to deal with motherfuckers like Eliane,and recently in 2012,she appears on Facebook,spreading her shit talk again with pseudoactivism,pseudo protect the nature fake talk,and im a pure bastard,with a pure bastard s heart,she almost a saint(i prefer silvia saint,sorry)im pseudo spiritualized person talk,that is Eliane s favorite quotes,maybe she cheated other guys with same modus operandi by a dummass,thats what she is in real life,She Lives in Finland now,she is coward,maybe she so coward that she does not have courage to send me a answer,and she is hidding in that frozen country afraid to come back,and face the reality..i said to her in facebook that ive hate her,its true,all love that i felt for her becames hate,maybe i felt to punch her right on her face,but when she becames sick,got a cancer,got a desease,a cold,some boyfriend or husband hurt her,she is paying for fuck me up,fucked up my youth,because i loved her for real deal,and its hurts,this was a desease that she did with me during those years,with a lack of desrespect to me as a human,so i dont have a any respect for her right now as a human,also,because she wants to pay for that,and she paid,and she will pay,and if she doesnt not say sorry to me,she will still paying with her miserable life,i never meant to be if we virtually became boyfriend and husband,i never meant to be jealous or desrespect her,or treat her like a proprierty,we could really love each other,but maybe she was a stupid frigid woman,that prefers not have joy in life,but knew she as stupid woman that she is,she choosed making fun of me,and now will face my payback,doesnt matter if she trained her son like a dog to kill me or try to punch my face,i dont care and im ready to fight back as a man,and this will be a tragedy for real,and to avoid this,its much better her keep her arse out.Every time she listen to 80s soft pop she will reminds me,every time she listen Katy Perry s the one who got away,it hurts her and make she changes the radio station,its too much to a coward woman,who stab people by back,for me now,sometimes a laugh inside,knowing the moments that other guys fucked her up in treat her bad both senses,thats the lesson to women that try to friendzone guys that realy loved them,or you can die,or be fucked up for rest of your lives,stupid women..and think about that fortunatelly not all girls are motherfuckers like you,you when become old,can be changed by a new one,fresh and young,and you will be the granny living with cats,you crazy sociopat bitches.
this is a message from James Taylor,you get a”friend”

Elliot is Right... says:

hahahaha

MAN,i loved this text about punish that friendzone slut,i laughed a lot,with you ironic and dark sense of humor.if this history is true its an EPIC..but is serious subject,some of them was killed for that,i think is Fair,they die or be punished to not say”im sorry,i dont want to be your friend or partner”could be much better than cheat the guy,making him fall in love,and the stupid woman reject him,because women are a just a piece of psycologically disturbed brainless motherfuckers,that must be feel the pain for all lack of respect about other people AND crap this stoopid behavior rules..go on..

to Jacob Sphinxster says:

Wrong generation?

What a Faggot asian,white mixed nerd,a stupid guy that feel pleasure with have his ass be ripped by other man s dick,and be your ass look a like tunnel,and play stoopid videoblogs on youtube,you could post your shit in YOUTUNNEL channel,it fits for ya,have a opinion about young people?you dont know nothing about youngsters,you are just a mentally ill and hiv spreader..you could shut the fuck up and go make your eppilectig hysterical attacks in the bottom of some vulcano during a eruption….

sufi samurai says:

You Did Right Forrest!!

You done Right man,you kick thats Eliane Laurett s butt with strong power,you could call her whore or something,because she is just a cold and annoying slut that made fun of your feelings,thats what women like her deserves,suffer,because no one can treat people like stupid,for gods sake,she is not immortal,and when she be fucked for a life or a desease,she will pay for that,everytime,evertytime till she turns into a old ugly and ill women like her grandma….she will be defeated by the time….

None of ya business says:

Quit complaining

Get off of your asses, turn off the radio/TV and use the tool called the internet to look for modern music that is great.

Honestly, if you think that popular music today sucks, well, here’s the thing, popular music always sucked. You are just aware of it now because you are older. Pop music was always about marketing, nothing new.

Stop complaining.

Ricky agnew says:

To you 70's baby boomers grandpas and grandmas

You’re narrow minded and sound just like your parents did in the 70’s..every person seems to hate the music that comes out ten years down the line,after their high school grad years…it happens with every effing era..those that graduated in the 60’s hated hippie music in the 70’s..those baby boomer hippies of the 70’s hated 80’s music..definitely not by any mean diverse..You metal lover who only accept and enjoy screaming vocalists will always hate any artist that isn’t screaming..I’ve been a music collector since i was 5 years old..1959..In my collection are 45rpm’s,vinyl 33 and a thirds,and 78rpm’s as well..artist diversity is important= from the three d’s,the ames brothers,doris day to the beach boys ,jan and dean ,the beatles,the doors,led zeppelin,king crimson,alanis morissette,no doubt,pearl jam,Nirvana,tammy wynette,george jones,lynn anderson,metallica,evanescence,amberian dawn,nightwish,tarja turunen and tons of artists inbetween from the 60’s,70’s,80’s 90’s and the 20000’s as well.. i have over 2 thousand music videos of the 60’s and 70’s and over 3000 form the 80’s and 90’s and 2000..If he she or they were popular i probably have their music.i have tons of rare stuff as well./for example ,Bob Welch when he was ina band called Paris..i have 2 or 3 Paris LP’s..forgot which.
s..The music i litsen to daily is mostly by symphonic metal bands like Amberian dawn,Tarja Turunen,etc..awesome operatic voices but in a rock format with symphonic accompaniment(often synthesizer in replacement of).

M1970carter says:

music industry is not in good health (refering to

I agree with you. Most of today’s artist lack musical talent and knowledge. It is sad when you can take any pretty face out there and make or label them as musician. It takes hard work and devotion plus plenty of hours of rehearsal and practice to become a true musician. Sorry folks, but it doesn’t happen overnight…. You have to earn it. Music is one of the family tree that falls under Performing Arts. It is not words are track numbers from a drum machine that you jogged down on any type of paper you have laying about your room.. Lyrics are not cheaply composed and written out on scratch paper, no. Real music requires knowledge and talent into knowing how to compose musical notes in an arrangement on sheet music paper. And oh by the way, you should be able to at least produce the correct sound values and tones of the music you are writing. Please don’t get me started about the craftsmenship of true quality music, I will be here all day.. And yes ai studied music and have 2 musical scholarships to back my musical expertise on the subject.

Truthy McTruth says:

Real music please come back... all is forgiven.

I bet in 2004 there was no chance of realising just how god-damned worse the music industry as a whole could get!

There’s always been good and bad stuff right through the ages, but I’ve never witnessed so much badness both mainstream and a little off the beaten track.

Who’d have thought for example the likes of the frighteningly bad One Direction and Jason Derulo all the way up to Sean ‘biggedy-bong’ Paul to horror shows like Avichi would be commonly accepted and actually praised? And don’t get me started on the idiot that is Nicki Menagerie (auto correct comedy name accepted.)

The worst is all the oversexualised tripe aimed at kids via the music industry, it’s utterly vile.

And I’m not going to feel even remotely bad about about saying I wish ‘Eminema’ would quit making his small whining angry white man shock rap.

And as to why we idolise ex pimps and drug dealers such as Snoopy dawg and ‘fifty-pence down the pub’ is beyond me.

As for a final point? A lot of current RnB has nothing to do whatsoever with actual rhythm and blues… clue’s in the name.

Extremely sad times.

dennis teel says:

Re:

it’s a myriad of things,these days,not just one>>What happened is 1994 and 1995 and the popularity spike in rap and hip hop …it murdered the chances of anything really great being accepted by the majority as being great..rap and hip hop are all about anything but talent.most teenagers and preteens will listen to anything they can shake their butt to.lyrics don’t mean much at all and the music tracks on the CD can sound as repetitious as hell but todays kids have never been subjected to ‘better music’..if these kids would take the time to sit and listen to some of the early 90’s,and 80’s and even 70’s stuff they’d understand the difference in what they’re used to listening to and what real music is and go for it,providing you don’t tell them how old the music really is..The spell will be broken if that happens.Another problem is that todays young people have a tendency to be loyal to who’mever the rest of their peers listen to..And still another problem imo ,is that they believe any song that’s over a year or two old is ‘classic’ and of no concern to anyone anymore so,thusly the song is out of sight and out of mind so to speak..Another problem is that young people see rap and hip hop as their own personal ‘sounds’ and if the music isn’t of one of those styles then it’s generally assumed to be unpopular (or really old because they’ve never heard it before) and it’s of course it’s not accepted.young people aren’t keen on accepting new music unless their friends are in to it.today’s music is bought by people who have simple minds who follow and care too much about how popular the artist is with friends and the rest of their ‘type'(ie,reality tv fans,america’s got talent fan boys and young black rappers who seem suave and anti social).

Dennis Teel says:

Re:

Thank you for mentioning Tarja Turunen..While i love her Nightwish days most of all,I love her solo stuff.She actually taught to me like opera(hers only however).her high notes give me the goosies..yeah ,i stole the goosies thing from j.lopez (who i never cared for to begin with anyway).Let’s also accuse xandria and amberian dawn of having talent shall we? (among many other symphonic metal bands)gotta love’em.

Dennis Teel says:

Modern Music Sucks

i kind of agree that we have to the end of the string..after all there’s only so many colors that exist and it makes sense that musical style ..or call it catagories.. might be the same..expendable..maybe seems to me the only thing left is crossover music as country so wrongly did with rock..god god,all they did was create crappy rock..ain’t no country about it!!so what’s next..symphonic yodeling?

OldFogey says:

IMHO, things started really going wrong around 1990. But there were precedents. MTV debuted in 1981 with “Video Killed the Radio Star.” The visual started to trump the auditory. As long as you were cute or sexy and could dance, the producers figured they could apply the necessary turd polish to your whiny voice. The production cycle of music was also turned on its head. Previously, bands rehearsed, working on their ensemble; then they entered the studio and recorded. Nowadays, songs are born in the studio, and the challenge of live performance is to copy the studio sound, frequently through sampling, loops, pitch shifting and other gadgetry. Remember when you could learn to sing and play on the guitar a pop song? The technological idiosyncrasies of today’s pop music render it impervious to adaptation; songs can only be experienced in their canned form. The audiophile revolution, delivering enhanced frequency range and dynamic contrast, has been beaten back by the counter-revolution of compression techniques fitting 10,000 songs on a device. This makes music more boring. How good or bad pop music is will be decided ultimately in posterity, by the test of time.

Anonymous Coward says:

Oh Come on ...

honestly, look at humanity. people are just profiting off one another and manipulating others to buy their low quality mass produced shit.

its just too easy, especially with large, monopolized, oligarchies ruling over the distribution networks and controlling content production ultimately.

its just too hard to repeatedly reproduce the jimi Hendrix or such and such personality character. it requires actual talent, and a lifetime of skill gained through sacrifice. Not only physical sacrifice but emotional. its something so unique to the individual, nobody can ever reproduce the same thing the same way.

but to produce shit is easy. its hard to control a true artist who controls his own content, who pulls his own strings.

that means, that if something good comes out it might not say what the big voices the movies and magazines tell us to worship say (because all those ‘heroes’ are anything but)

it might not be what those who hold the power in society want – and at the same time, it is not as profitable as when you can manipulate the consumer base into thinking any product you package is ‘good’ without any deeper, more critical or educated examination.

People, stupid people, who try to get by these days say ‘I Like anything’ afraid of being judged for their true feelings. afraid of real expression because society is stamping it out.

People are afraid of showing raw emotion. what makes us human. afraid of what makes art art. because art is inequal. LIFE is inequal. but not in the horrible economic way in which we all have been bred to believe is required.

it is inequal in expression, and glorious in its bounty. Look to youtube for all the talent that never would have been discovered. never sold for any money in an era before the modern.

there is a war going on, at a level nobody can see with the naked eye, that will be spoken of in history long after we are all dead. A silent war, waged while an overindulgent, unknowingly servile population sleeps.

It is a war over who gets to set the standards. over who gets to make the rules. a war between independent and established media sources

in the 70s — 80s — 90s, even in very recent history. before all the mergers. before all the globalization — which is really just monopolization. there were more independent forces in the economy which had variant, although establishment appeasing voices.

there were more small guys competing over producing things like movies/tv shows, music, and pretty much everything. so quality was better. choices were better.

but when you put maybe, 3-7 people in a room and then put them in charge of everything at the top. this is a natural consequence of what happens. they want to make shit easier for themselves to maintain dominance.

I think this is really what is responsible for what we see. fewer people, trying to use psychology to make more fast bucks from more people by any means necessary.

I think, today, you could be the literal reincarnation of jimi Hendrix, and god could come behind you from heaven literally, and if it wasn’t gonna make the establishment no money, You wouldn’t even make a headline in a newspaper nobody reads anymore. it never even happened as far as they concerned. they just deny it forever until there is massive social backlash and they become public laughingstock for all to see. then they awkwardly try to shift center to cover for it like the fake little assholes every single human dirtbag (being) has always been.

good art only exists in the vacuum of the cultures that create it. culture has been separated from art. unless the filth and brainwashing we all have been subjected to has suddenly become ‘art’ but I guess the CIA did a good job of making that reality in the 70s.

the revolution that could be at hand is honestly the power of the internet. I’m not sure anyone will ever use it to the potential it could be.

the internet puts broadcasting power in everyday peoples hands. it puts the power to supercede the middle men into our grasp.

the internet gives us power to create our own fame and remove some level of the wealth gained by manipulating the fame of others. it restores integrity to art by allowing the piracy, the rule breaking, the free access and experimentation, and everything that has characterized art from the beginning.

look back onto the jazz age and the bootlegged fakebooks that got many performers through shows. Look back to the subculture of any age, copying tapes, etc. that’s how the artists were able to get their influences often, irrespective of time.

it allows the people a window beyond the corporate overlord’s shell of a world view. it is the potential sword upon which his power may fall.

but everyone is lazy, content. people grew up with things, have fond memories, and nostalgia/social acceptance keeps this fake death culture around us.

everyones standards have dropped.

Does art mimick life? or has life begun to mimick the mass produced bullshit we have been fed?

does anyone even know anymore?

Anonymous Coward says:

Oh Come on ...

exactly, it is the system of monopolization near the top of the food chain which has restricted things. it causes an efficiency of profit over quality, and assurance of mass production.

Its not the stations that are the problem, honestly, its the poor excuse for culture that exists nowadays. everything is obviously fake and plastic. all the mass produced ‘rap stars’ that don’t even have the cultural substance of the origins (which I don’t personally even like either, but can at least respect as a form of art),

all the shameless rapes of actual talent and poor excuses for modernization without effort.

my tin foil hat is firmly affixed, I suppose.

but with all the benefits of centralized structure- art is something that always fails within it.

not every man can be a brilliant inventor, but if you lower the standards of art, any man can be an artist.

a man who owns many artists is able to make more money than any artist individually. this makes economic sense.

the problem arises in any system when the balance of people making money off any said industry become too few.

it becomes too hard for things like the past — where each subculture had its own business — to work anymore.

now you have one megacorp. trying to make as much money as possible at any cost.

of course they are going to try to manufacture stars, so they can pay the performers less, make more off IP rights and larger portions of performance fees.

bob Dylan took home a shit ton more money per song/performance than lady ga ga, or lil wayne ever will or can — regardless of whether they take home more money overall (over a much shorter timespan and relevant inflationary period mind you)

I have no good solution for this. they all tend to end nastily if history is looked at. all of them. even not fixing it (although we are, hopefully, far from any such experiential horrors or doom)

I just suggest it as the cause for why we all agree older things have more character about them, more substance or quality.

some things mass production makes far better and easier, while others it is a great deficit to society.

our modern world has become that system on steroids.

and while the entertainment industry is not emblematic of the big picture at all (there is still a lot of freedom clearly), the entertainment industry has been a known asset to the media/govt and TPTB and controlled for a very long time. this is mostly actually out in the open for anyone to see, with FAMOUS NEWSCASTERS having been agents in the CIA even! like a specific current one which I am referencing on CNN.

there is a lot of exposes on the CIA infiltrating radio in the 50s.

I’m not BLAMING it on them — what I’m exposing is that clearly, cartels whom only have the interest of profits have long controlled these industries, and actually ended up becoming powerful, controlling titans in the modern day.

many different vested economic interests lie behind a everything, and not everything is totally insincere.

but i’ll be damned if 3/4ths of it isn’t totally insincere bullshit — with the only difference between me and my day job and the performer/newscaster/actor/musican and theirs is the paycheck they bring home and the ass they get after work.

if they don’t wish every second shit was over. that they had their own voice. a choice, or could just not go to work.

its not like jimi Hendrix, playing on the streets of harlem for a dime homeless. not caring if he lived or died. and even though he died living in excess, every time he went out there he actually played his soul out, and nobody censored it.

people did rape him for profit/steal from him literally (he was accused of tax fraud but was paid salary from his concerts lol crooked manager), and probably murdered him because he was going to leave and start his own shit.

but the fact is, there was an economy in place at that time in which established players, like eric Clapton and whatever record companies, couldn’t just push him out right away, he changed the standard! he challenged the accepted norms of the time.

such challenges are impossible now. I’m sure theres a brilliant non-elon musk-rich engineer who could solve just as many problems or more but will never get the chance — never arise to the same pomp or circumstance.

the internet allows people the power to control their own destinies. but people like being told what to think. people care about being accepted more than anything else.

If you make your culture part of being accepted, then you win. that’s all there is to it in this game.

only those who actively rebel and wish to be vilified or exiled by their peers would truly delve into the opinion that everything everyone else believes is literally artless brainwashing material.

but that is not what is required merely to realize that older music and art had more variant emotional qualities.

not to mention the recordings were actually more faithful before the loudness wars — but that hardly matters now, with 90% of pop culture being actual artless filth as I described.

real art coming out today would not re-affirm peoples beliefs. real art would admit we are on the way down the shitter fast. that everyone is a slut and maybe promiscuity isn’t so great. that shit is unfair, and people bragging about money and ho’s should be shamed in the street for their greed and gluttony — or at the very least not idolized for their clear and obvious dedication to everything that is evil in the world.

the real trip down the rabbit hole begins when you realize all our social standards are contrived. some for good reasons, and others maybe not. it involves realizing maybe the ‘heroes’ as we know them could have been villains. perhaps the pages of history didn’t turn exactly how we were led to think.

this even applies to a lot of the art some of us snobs adore. its true. its scary true.

there is nothing sacred. no single, tangible truth for anything we believe we know. confirmation bias, as well as what I would call a conformation bias, merge with sands of time to make true history inconceivable to anyone lost within the flow of time.

there is no ideal period or frame in which ‘good’ art can exist.

I Only make the claim of belief that a centralized control structure more interested in overall profits rather than quality run amuck, will cause the degeneracy many claim to see in the areas of art, music, and film.

these and other social structures are the first things to suffer from cultural stress. they only arise from free time — and only when people from varying backgrounds have such free time, and the social ability to go anywhere with it.

changes to the social structure change things, which is natural. But radical changes to such structure which involve centralization and less competition, always result in this.

the difference between capitalism and communism disappears in the latest stages — when the very few gain power over the great masses of the world — and more so, have the scientific management and necessary infrastructure with which to control them.

when the means of production are all controlled by one centralized source, the only difference between capitalism and communism becomes how they got there.

in the globalized world, we are facing much the same cultural dilemma as the soviet union. where drug abuse didn’t exist because the government said it didn’t lol.

the problem is the people distributing the information, the people producing it, all of them are owned by the same few fuckers. even the stuff we like and agree with.

nothing is sincere and no source can be trusted. Not only that but those who send out the messages wish to convince those that hear it to support all their other shit.

well what about everyone elses shit? don’t they have enough control? would it really hurt them, if they are going to monopolize, to accept lower profit margins and accept a level of personal stagnation in order for variety to still exist?

that’s where it hurts. that’s where it begins to cross the line into psychological slavery.

When things that were once considered viable, profitable solutions now ‘aren’t profitable enough’ so instead of that RPG you get another shooter. so that instead of that new rock song you get another mass produced pop/country/fake rap drivel bullshit that continues to breath lifeblood into this shit culture that needs to lay over and breath its last.

the problem is the scale of everything being so large. real art is relegated to real people, who have little time for it often.

whose dreams get to become reality has drastically slimmed over the years. the expectations have been set and the bar has been lowered.

welcome to your plastic paradise. the prison of our own creating. from the promise of easier work and more free time, to the total loss of free time and independence. to the total loss of having an economic voice, even though the internet has empowered us to have a literal voice.

but then again, the expectations have been set, and I’m some crazy anonymous coward on the internet. who are you going to believe?

at least i’ll admit my beliefs are flawed, and probably not right. and that’s more than you’ll get from most others.

thinker says:

Music

Why all the insults? The simple fact is that today’s music just cannot withstand the music of the second half of the 20th century. I don’t know why people get all emotional about it. And don’t even get me started on Mozart or the anything like him.

It has passed decades and all the stuff I hear on radios is the old stuff.

Moreover, it has passed 3 centuries and people still remember Mozart.
It is the plain truth; today’s music is crap. Get over it and don’t ballistic on people.

N8-Bit says:

Music doesn't suck now.

There is nothing wrong with today’s music. Yes, mainstream top 40 sucks, like it always did but quit judging all of today’s music from pop crap. And there was just as much shit music back then as there is today. Nostalgia filtered out the crap and you remember the good stuff.

There is a lot of great music coming out daily. If you only focus on the charts, of course you are going to be disappointed with modern music.

Get on Bandcamp, look for music in your preferred genre(s) and you should find some good music.

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