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Tiffany Sues eBay For Not Policing Counterfeit Items

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It looks like it's going to be quite a while before companies realize that suing the service provider for something someone did on their service is a dead end. The latest is that jeweler Tiffany is suing eBay because users sold fake Tiffany items. Tiffany should be going after those who sold fake items, since they're the ones who have actually done something wrong, but apparently that's too difficult, and those people are unlikely to have very much money. So, instead, they just sue eBay -- even though the company has done nothing wrong themselves.

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  1. No Subject Given

    by Anonymous Coward - Jun 21st, 2004 @ 12:20pm

    Ebay is the dealer.
    Do you think Christie's or Sothby's would NOT be held liable for fraud ?
    Whats the difference ?
    Ebay gets a cut of every sale.
    Explain to us all how Ebay isn't involved.

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  2. Re: No Subject Given

    by Mike - Jun 21st, 2004 @ 12:31pm

    They're just the service provider. If they needed to verify that every item is properly labeled it would basically kill off eBay. It's the seller who is making the false claim - not eBay. They are not the dealer at all. They aren't selling the good. They are just an intermediary that lets someone else sell their goods.

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  3. Re: eBay

    by Albert Godel - Jun 21st, 2004 @ 4:34pm

    An auction house is not responsible for item's authentisity, this is why appraisers make so much money. If someone sells a knockoff of a famous painting, then the police will pursue the seller not the auction house. Tiffany's is just trying to sue someone with money, this only makes lawyers rich.

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  4. Re: No Subject Given

    by aNonMooseCowherd - Jun 21st, 2004 @ 6:32pm

    Ebay is not the seller. They are acting as a broker between sellers and buyers. The person listing the item is the seller.

    I'm surprised that Ebay doesn't require its customers to indemnify it against suits of this type. Or maybe it does but Tiffany figures they'll get more money (and publicity) by suing Ebay anyway.

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    by Anonymous Coward - Jun 22nd, 2004 @ 7:17am

    I said 'Hire a Lawyer' ... I should have said, 'Hire a SMART Lawyer.' .

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  6. Re: eBay

    by vele - Jun 22nd, 2004 @ 9:41pm

    they are not a service provider. they are an auctioneer. ebay's sole purpose is auction, of which they take a cut, thus they are an enabler in the transaction. verizon is a service provider, but that service can be used for a ton of different things, and you don't pay per individual usage type (email, or online purchase), but for blanket service. thus ebay has limited liability if they knew of violations and of steps they could have taken to prevent it. only then will the law apply. as tiffany said, they have been warning ebay with individual auctions for a year, and ebay has refused to deal with some things. this means that ebay, per product liability laws, will have some liability towards tiffany. the laws can be tricky, but it's also a pile of BS for ebay to hide behind hands off approach when they have incentives to not crack down as hard as they can.

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