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by Mike Masnick


Filed Under:
copyright, india, liability, music, safe harbors

Companies:
super cassettes industries, yahoo



Indian Music Firm Sues Yahoo Over Music Streaming

from the and-this-again dept

There is no DMCA-equivalent in India, apparently, meaning that there are no similar "safe harbors" that protect a service provider from the actions of their users. However, that still doesn't mean one should automatically blame the service provider for a users' actions -- but that's exactly what an Indian court has done. An Indian music company has sued Yahoo and won an injunction barring Yahoo from streaming any of the company's music. While the company had sent complaint letters to Yahoo, Yahoo (reasonably) had asked it to follow the basic takedown procedure, which requires proving that the company properly owns the copyright on the song and then requesting it be taken down.

However, the company says: "it is not possible for the company to spend time and resources to monitor copyright infringements on sharing sites." What they don't explain is why, if the copyright owners themselves can't do it, why they think sites like Yahoo and Google should be able to do it. In fact, it's even more ridiculous when you realize that many musicians want their music on these sites, and Yahoo, Google and others have no way of knowing whether or not a song on their sites has been put their legitimately or not. To have a court demand that Yahoo somehow "figure it out" simply isn't possible, unless it bars all use of music, which hardly seems like a reasonable request.

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    Jun 2nd, 2008 @ 4:45pm
  • by Anonymous Coward

    RIAA is setting the standard for all this BS!

    (reply to this comment) (link to this comment)

  • Jun 2nd, 2008 @ 5:05pm
  • I see an easy answer in the future...

    by Mike C.

    No more streaming to any Indian IP from Yahoo... period. Won't surprise me when it happens either.

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  • Jun 2nd, 2008 @ 5:51pm
  • Proof? We don't need no stinkin' proof!

    "Yahoo (reasonably) had asked it to follow the basic takedown procedure, which requires proving that the company properly owns the copyright on the song and then requesting it be taken down. "

    Proving? Hah! That's not even required in the US.

    Yeah, that doesn't really change the larger point, but it's worth noting that even here there's no proof required, merely an assertion.

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  • Jun 2nd, 2008 @ 6:06pm
  • by Saphomukatakinata

    That is veddy veddy gould. Would u like some cuddy with that?

    (reply to this comment) (link to this comment)

  • Jun 2nd, 2008 @ 6:18pm
  • Simple Answer

    by Solution Man

    If India claims it is illegal in their country, then simply block everyone in Inda from accessing it. Then flip them off and tell them to STFU.

    (reply to this comment) (link to this comment)

  • Jun 2nd, 2008 @ 6:51pm
  • Ironical

    by cram

    The company that sued was India's firt major audio pirate. That's how they started out in business, blatantly ripping off film tracks and selling them in the late 80s. But they were also responsible for bringing down the cost of recorded music (then cassettes) in the country, forcing the likes of HMV to cut cassette prices by more than 70%.

    "In fact, it's even more ridiculous when you realize that many musicians want their music on these sites."

    That's not true. In India, most of the popular music is film music, published and owned by companies. They call the shots; the musicians are at the mercy of movie makers and recording companies, because to make it big as a musician one needs a movie break. And musicians only get one-time payment for their music.

    Musicians in India mostly don't want their music on any Web site (many have actually said so), because as recorded music sales keeps falling, thanks to piracy, it becomes more difficult for them to negotiate decent deals for their next movie project.

    Piracy is so rampant in India it has nearly destroyed the recorded film music business. The only way out is for film companies to start giving away music for free and make their money elsewhere.

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  • Jun 2nd, 2008 @ 7:01pm
  • forgot to add...

    by cram

    There's simply no respect for copyright in India and suing just won't get you anywhere, because it might take up to 10 years for the case to even come up for hearing.

    T-Series decided to complain to Yahoo only because it's an American Internet company. If they had tried it with any Indian web site, they would have got the middle finger.

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  • Jun 2nd, 2008 @ 7:03pm
  • >>> the company says: "it is not possible for the company to spend time and resources to monitor copyright infringements on sharing sites.

    (reply to this comment) (link to this comment)

  • Jun 2nd, 2008 @ 7:04pm
  • by Carnac the Magnificent

    And here, I have the last envelope ...
    hermetically sealed and has been kept in a mayonnaise jar on Funk and Wagnalls porch since noon today .....

    Ans: "You figure it out"

    Question: "What was the Indian court demand to webmasters across the globe."

    (reply to this comment) (link to this comment)

  • Jun 2nd, 2008 @ 7:09pm
  • Jun 2nd, 2008 @ 7:12pm

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