Predictions

Predictions

by Mike Masnick


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home automation, power management




Will Interest In Power Management Finally Drive Home Automation?

from the power-me-up dept

Home automation solutions have been something of a fun toy for geeks for many, many years but are still pretty far from mainstream. However, a new force may drive new adoption: the fact that home automation systems can often track how much energy different electronics are using. Prior to this, people weren't all that sure how much energy their consumer electronics were slurping up. But with some new home automation systems, they get a much better view into what's being used and how -- and how to change usage to cut down on the electricity bill. Of course, that makes you wonder if today's obsession with big flat screen TVs (known as the SUVs of the TV world) will get a bit of pushback.

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  1. Doubt It...

    by Freedom - Jul 29th, 2008 @ 11:58pm

    As someone that has spent way too much time and money automating a lot of aspects in my home, I just don't see the real value, or that the current energy woes would cause any real change to the HA market. Don't get me wrong, I love the stuff I've done, but it would be a hard sell to a lot of folks.

    There will most likely be an upsurge in auto-timers and programmable thermostats though, but I just don't see the ROI for any involved automation systems.

    To me, what has a better chance of taking off is solar power, thermal ground energy type solutions, solar heaters, and CFLs. These actually have immediate/noticeable effect in most cases.

    Bottom line, if you could afford a real home automation system, energy prices aren't a major concern for you. Most likely any minor cost savings you'd achieved would probably be outweighed by all the new 'automation' products in place.

    Freedom

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  2. Great, another "guilty green" product.

    by Twinrova - Jul 30th, 2008 @ 3:57am

    Pass.

    When it comes to utilities, saving electricity doesn't reduce your payment despite all the hoopla of doing so. In fact, utility prices have increased so much in the past 5 years it's not going to save you anything.

    If you want to cut down on your electric bill (and pocket some coinage at the same time), invest in solar panels.

    Yes, I own an SUV TV. There's no way in hell I'm going back to analog TV even if it runs on $1 per month!

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  3. Re: Doubt It...

    by Wallace - Jul 30th, 2008 @ 5:50am

    I guess for some people it's all about saving energy and not money but this smarter HA system isn't doing that anymore than a regular system. So this is targeting an even smaller group of people - geek environmentalists. The same group that already has solar and geothermal systems and now wants to get tighter control of the energy they use.

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  4. If you want to know power usage...

    by Scoots - Jul 30th, 2008 @ 7:25am

    for applicances, search for Kill-A-Watt electricity usage monitor. Costs about $20 on average if you just have to know how much power something is sucking up when you leave it running.

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  5. Awareness of energy costs

    by Moe Rubenzah - Jul 30th, 2008 @ 8:14am

    Hardly a killer feature but still a good idea. Few people realize what some of the gear costs. Consider that a 150 watt media center, on 24/7, costs $473 a year if you pay 36 cents a kilowatt-hour (a rate charged for additional energy on top of your current usage in some areas); or around $150/year if you're at 12 cents/kWh.

    Worth knowing and worth making people aware. Will it make us "greener?" Probably not. But may save some folks a few dollars and will increase awareness.

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  6. Cooperation with Utilities

    by Phil Goldinger - Jul 30th, 2008 @ 9:54am

    In central Pennsylvania our utility company is talking about having rates change throughout the day.

    The problem with electricity is the lack of storage, so they need to generate more in the hot afternoon that at 3am. With smart appliances or control units, and rates that vary based on demand, they could cycle your fridge less during the afternoon freeing some power for the hungry AC units.

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  7. Re: Cooperation with Utilities

    by Anonymous Coward - Jul 30th, 2008 @ 5:05pm

    In central Pennsylvania our utility company is talking about having rates change throughout the day.
    But that's not about saving energy. That's about the power company not wanting to invest in the capacity to meet peak demand.

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  8. Re: Great, another "guilty green" product.

    by Anonymous of Course - Jul 30th, 2008 @ 5:52pm

    Reducing your electricity consumption always
    saves you money. When the rates increase
    conservation saves you even more money, even
    if your bill wasn't reduced. Solar panels?
    The roi is terrible.

    My home consumes less than half of the annual
    kW/hr of the average home in my part of the
    country. Yet I have only ONE CFL bulb in use,
    the rest of them are incandescent. I turn off
    the lights when I'm not in the room and use
    efficient appliances in a frugal manner. Like
    full loads in the laundry and so on... no big tv,
    no dish washer. If it wasn't for a 1200W stock
    tank heater running over the winter I'd use much
    less.

    I guess this is my SUV/flat panel TV. Keeping
    livestock is something that I enjoy but don't need.

    It's not that I'm green, or guilty. I've been trying
    to cut down my utility bills since the early 70's.
    Ok, so I'm cheap. It's also kind of a hobby. Wind
    power, solar power, wood gas, you name it, I've probably
    tried it. Conservation is by far the easiest approach
    and requires the least out of pocket expense- zero.

    What bugs me is I got a flier from the utility
    detailing my monthly electricity usage last month.
    Why? In an attempt to sell me "green" electricty
    at an inflated rate. They're mandated to provide
    a percentage of the electrricity from alternative
    sources so now they're seeking ways to make it
    profitable. In this case it's wind power. Good
    luck on maintaining a stable power grid if all
    the wind generating facilities talked about go on
    line.

    The only thing I want to hear from the utility is
    ways to reduce my bill. Like off-peak rates for
    water heating and other plans which they'll NEVER
    volunteer any information about. I read the complete
    tarriff (rate book) recently, which is thick as a
    phone book, and there's damn little a person can do
    to get a lower rate from my provider.

    Don't get me wrong, I don't live like a monk and
    don't expect anyone else to do so either unless
    it's their desire. If you enjoy driving an
    SUV or watching a big flat panel TV I see nothing
    wrong in it, enjoy. Both should (and have) become
    more efficient over time as the market demands it.

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  9. Thanks

    by CSK001 - Feb 3rd, 2009 @ 9:42pm

    Hi,
    Thanks for sharing your ideas and views with us. I'm a new one in this forum. Please keep updating me.

    CSK


    Flat Fee MLS

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