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by Mike Masnick


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Suing Over Being Called A Douchebag Might Just Get More People To Think You're A Douchebag

from the just-saying... dept

There's a somewhat popular (and quite amusing) blog called Hot Chicks with Douchebags. It is... well, pretty much what you'd expect (and might not be a link you want to click-through while at work) -- a bunch of photos of attractive women in the company of guys who, well, you can figure it out. Anyway, I had no idea that they had come out with a book recently, but apparently some of the folks included in the book are none too happy about it. Three of the alleged "hot chicks" in the book have sued the book's author and publisher, and now one of the alleged "douchebags" has also sued, claiming libel. Of course, once again, it seems like this is the sort of thing where suing only puts a lot more attention on the fact that some folks consider the guy to be a douchebag in the first place. Besides, considering that douchebag, in this context, is pretty clearly a statement of opinion rather than fact (no one actually thinks he's literally a bag for douches), it's difficult to see where the libel is. In fact, I'd say that suing over being included in a book like this seems, well... ah, well, you can figure it out.

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  1. Libelous, really?

    by Peavey - Nov 21st, 2008 @ 5:10am

    I'm a big fan of Penn & Teller's Bullshit (TV Program) and according to them on one of their earliest episodes, you can technically call anyone whatever you want if it isn't defamation.

    Anyone feel free to correct me if I'm wrong or bring more light to the subject. It's very good info to know.

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  2. Oh, man...

    by Killercool - Nov 21st, 2008 @ 5:12am

    I never thought I'd say this in a million years (it sounds so horribly idiotic), but... I lolled. I'd never heard of this site before, but it kinda tickled my funnybone.

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  3. by BaekeySucks - Nov 21st, 2008 @ 5:20am

    Jason Baekey is a douchebag!!!

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  4. by Vendetta - Nov 21st, 2008 @ 5:49am

    For anyone to sue in this case is pretty idiotic, as was said above all it does is merely draw more attention to you. I never heard of this site, or a book for that matter, but after reading this I felt the need to find out who this... you know... is... haha Too be honest though, an intelligent person might see this as a wake up call, although I don't blame him for being offended. But seriously, if your being labled as a douchebag in a book you might want to really reconsider how your living your life... It's pretty sad you've made it into a book for your douchebaggery... haha

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  5. correction...

    by shmengie - Nov 21st, 2008 @ 6:30am

    mike, you said: "...no one actually thinks he's literally a bag for douches..." when you should have said: "no one actually thinks he's literally a bag OF douches..."

    i'm here to help!

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  6. by Mr. Douchebag - Nov 21st, 2008 @ 6:32am

    I am suing because I am not a douchebag! I am a SUPREME douchebag!

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  7. Re:

    by Matt - Nov 21st, 2008 @ 6:42am

    in the choice between a turd sandwich and a giant douche, I'll vote libertarian and vote for douchebag instead ;)

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  8. by CJ - Nov 21st, 2008 @ 6:52am

    Depending on the circumstances in which the picture was taken, could he just not sue for unauthorized use of his image? If he didn't sign a release for the photography for its original use, I'm pretty sure he might at least have a leg to stand on there. (Assuming the hot chick he was next to wasn't a celebrity or other public figure anyway)

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  9. Re:

    by Anonymous Coward - Nov 21st, 2008 @ 6:58am

    "If he didn't sign a release for the photography for its original use, I'm pretty sure he might at least have a leg to stand on"

    I'm confused.
    Was it taken in a public place ?
    Before publication, does one need to get everyone in the photo to sign a release ? Does MSM get a pass on this ?

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  10. priceless

    by nunya_bidness - Nov 21st, 2008 @ 7:12am

    And Now a word from our sponsors... Only Product With FDA Mrkt Approval Proven to Eliminate Vaginal Odor!

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  11. by Lucretious - Nov 21st, 2008 @ 7:15am

    wasn't there an older site called "Hot chicks with choad's"?

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  12. Re: correction...

    by Water Works - Nov 21st, 2008 @ 7:19am

    Actually Mike is correct, See Our Ad on this page for a product description.

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  13. Re: Re: correction...

    by shmengie - Nov 21st, 2008 @ 7:33am

    there's ads on the page?

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  14. Douchebag?

    by NullOp - Nov 21st, 2008 @ 7:43am

    Actually, calling all the guys in the pics douchebags is a bit generous. Some of them don't rate high enough! BUT, they could be FROM the planet DoucheBag and therefore be DoucheBagians...

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  15. You have a problem with me?

    by Anonymous Coward - Nov 21st, 2008 @ 7:43am

    What is wrong with being a douchebag? They get a lot of action.

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  16. Hmm

    by Ralph - Nov 21st, 2008 @ 7:50am

    I am happy to see how my fellow readers think its funny to put down males in the USA. I would go as far as to claim misandry, but who am I kidding, it's socially acceptable to put down men (boys are stupid, throw rocks at them).

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  17. by Anonymous Coward - Nov 21st, 2008 @ 7:56am

    They are masters in the art of douchebachery.

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  18. Re: Hmm

    by Anonymous Coward - Nov 21st, 2008 @ 7:58am

    Get a grip.

    I doubt he would be protesting if he had been featured in "Hot Guys with Sluts"

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  19. what the heck...

    by tickled purple - Nov 21st, 2008 @ 8:05am

    ...sort of lawyer decides that this is a good case to bring to court?!

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  20. by Anonymous Coward - Nov 21st, 2008 @ 8:20am

    It is cool. Most of your are probably jealous. Going to say whoever wants to mock those guys are probably bigger douches than they are.

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  21. Re: what the heck...

    by Anonymous Coward - Nov 21st, 2008 @ 8:27am

    you have no clue what lawyers will do nowadays, anything that might get them a few bucks here and there. They are like savage dogs who will attack anything for even a small bite of food, in this case souls and money

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  22. Yeah, but...

    by trollificus - Nov 21st, 2008 @ 8:32am

    [quote=AC]
    It is cool. Most of your are probably jealous. Going to say whoever wants to mock those guys are probably bigger douches than they are.[/quote]

    ...WE didn't get our pictures taken with hot chicks! Ha! Take that MR. Probably Jealous. Oh, wait...damn.

    Also, point of technical accuracy, it's the douche NOZZLE that gets the 'action'.

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  23. Well actually...

    by Anonymous Coward - Nov 21st, 2008 @ 8:55am

    I've read the lawsuit from the "hot chicks", and I agree with their case. Not only are these pictures of the girls from a club (aka NOT public figures), but having the guys they're with being labeled as douchebags doesn't do much for their own reputation as well. One of them is a realtor, for instance, and her inclusion in the book could very well hurt her reputation (bad for business).

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  24. by Brian - Nov 21st, 2008 @ 9:21am

    God, I would love to see this one in court. It reminds of one of my favorite movie scenes of all time. In "From the Hip" Judd Nelson's client calls his accuser an a**hole while on the stand. They then spend the next two days in a special hearing on the admissibility of the word. Classic stuff, and this has the potential to be just as good.

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  25. Mike, you win.

    by Adam Singer - Nov 21st, 2008 @ 10:06am

    This is the funniest thing I've seen all day. Nice.

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  26. Re: what the heck...

    by snowburn14 - Nov 21st, 2008 @ 11:01am

    Um, the kind that gets paid by the hour?

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  27. Well actually

    by RD - Nov 21st, 2008 @ 12:34pm

    "I've read the lawsuit from the "hot chicks", and I agree with their case. Not only are these pictures of the girls from a club (aka NOT public figures), but having the guys they're with being labeled as douchebags doesn't do much for their own reputation as well. One of them is a realtor, for instance, and her inclusion in the book could very well hurt her reputation (bad for business)."

    Well actually, thats just too f-ing bad. The law isnt written for what YOU (or they) feel. Opinion is clearly protected speech under the first amendment, and numerous case precident in a court of law over the last, oh, 200 years or so. There is no law that says you have to approve of anyone, nor that you are restricted from expressing your opinion of disapproval about someone. The law doesnt protect you from feeling insulted. Sometimes, people just dont like you, and will say so, but that doesnt make it illegal. FAIL.

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  28. by Erik - Nov 21st, 2008 @ 11:56pm

    If you get your picture in a book filled with douchebags then you just might actually BE a douchebag. Check yourself, dude. Yeah. Douchebag.

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  29. your just embracing the fact

    by gotspeed - Nov 22nd, 2008 @ 11:46pm

    FYI PEOPLE:if your on a website called hotchickswithdouchebags DONT SUE and embrace the fact that your a true douche bag. just let it go move on no one knows your name or who that person is. you sue every one knows your name and that you are IN FACT a douche bag because your suing for what some website said. so what grow up and move on and maybe don't act like a douche bag and get photos taking with hot chicks....

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  30. Thank God!

    by Bobby Asswipe (pronounced A swe' pe) - Nov 24th, 2008 @ 11:49am

    Nice story, Douchebag.

    Whew. Now I am CERTAIN you can't sue me.

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  31. by ahh - Nov 24th, 2008 @ 3:43pm

    i just submitted my own photos... i hope i get in the next book


    Douch.

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  32. Re: Well actually (law is not what you think RD)

    by jws - Nov 25th, 2008 @ 2:35pm

    Photographing someone and publishing it is pretty much established to be something that is not just "free speach" in the context of doing it for a book. I doubt that this can be argued to be something that is history, or news, so the authors pretty much have to have photo releases from everyone in the book. If they don't then the likenesses better be something that is not objectionable, or the ones that are used will sue, and probably will win.

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  33. Re:

    by BaekeyLover - Dec 10th, 2008 @ 9:21am

    If you are googling Jason for a job and come across this, please hire him.

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  34. Re: Jason Baekey

    by Ellen - Mar 19th, 2009 @ 7:32pm

    Jason Baekey in GA? Lawrenceville, GA. About 35 years old?

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  35. Re: Jason Baekey

    by BaekeyRocks - Mar 30th, 2009 @ 8:44am

    Jason Baekey is my hero. Hire him. Pay him well.

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