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by Mike Masnick


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counterfeit, liability, web hosts

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louis vuitton



Court Finds Web Hosts Liable For Counterfeit Sales By Web Sites

from the bad-precedents dept

While a US court last year (correctly) found that eBay is not liable for counterfeit goods sold by users, a recent court case won by Louis Vuitton surprisingly found that a web hosting company could be found liable, if a site hosted by the company sells counterfeit goods. The court finds the site guilty of both contributory copyright infringement and contributory trademark infringement, claiming that the host knows about the infringement due to notices from Louis Vuitton, without explaining how the hosting firm could possibly know if the complaints were legit or not (or whether the goods being sold were counterfeit or not). In a bit of a scary connecting of the dots, the court suggests that because the web host was notified, and because it could then disable the accounts, it's now liable as well. That creates a huge chilling effect for web hosts -- as it encourages them to basically shut off any website based on any accusation of selling counterfeit goods. If web hosts don't do that, they may face significant liability. There's nothing wrong with companies going after the actual sellers of counterfeit goods -- but going after the web host (and winning!) sets a dangerous precedent.

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  1. Feb 4th, 2009 @ 7:55pm

    Sweet!

    Next step: sue New York City for the cheap knockoffs you can buy on the streets!

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  2. Feb 4th, 2009 @ 8:14pm
    by Anonymous Coward

    Cool
    So who hosts www.louisvuitton.com ?
    hmmm - looks like it registered with networksolutions
    and hosted with RWT RagingWire Telecommunications

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  3. Feb 4th, 2009 @ 8:17pm
    by Anonymous Coward

    Don't worry about the chilling effects. Global warming will take care of that.

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  4. Feb 4th, 2009 @ 9:30pm

    Re:

    by Anonymous Coward

    Not soon enough, it's been below zero Fahrenheit each day for weeks where I live! We're in the start of a freaking ice age! Where's my global warming?!?!?

    Oh, and I hope the courts go further and put liability on anyone that is informed the next time, including any local municipalities where the web host, company and owners are located. Maybe then they will see how ludicrous it all is. But it's France I'm sure, and we all know they are more backwards that the U.S. Congress!

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  5. Feb 4th, 2009 @ 9:35pm

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    by David

    I wish I had something valid (or even semi-valid) I could claim Louis Vitton infringed my copyright on.

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  6. Feb 5th, 2009 @ 5:32am

    In the US?

    by icon Killer_Tofu (profile)

    So this actually took place in the US?
    This needs to get appealed.
    Stupid stupid judge. Complete failure to have any forward thinking ability at all.

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  7. Feb 5th, 2009 @ 7:30am

    Why stop there?

    by Me

    They could sue the post office, UPS, Fedex, etc for shipping the fake goods. And how about the digital camera makers for allowing pictures of the fake good to be taken with their equipment (how dare they!), and computer manufacturers for allowing such reprehensible actions to be committed using their hardware, and MS and Apple for providing software that OBVIOUSLY should only be allowed to perform legal activities.......

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  8. Feb 5th, 2009 @ 7:48am
    by Anonymous Coward

    So to take it a step further, if a brick and mortar establishment sells fake goods, the owner of the property is now liable for copryright infringement? (this is assuming, of course, that the establishmnet doesn't own the building)

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  9. Feb 5th, 2009 @ 2:05pm

    Re: In the US?

    by Anonymous Coward

    Yes, Northern District of California. Seems pretty poorly reasoned by the Court, as it ignores several precedents. That doesn't mean it will be overturned, though. But a more reasonable court would likely find this conclusion quite a stretch.

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  10. Mar 10th, 2009 @ 5:15pm

    Re: In the US?

    by Anonymous Coward

    No. This happened in France.

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  11. Nov 25th, 2009 @ 10:53pm

    answered

    by jj

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    The oldest son answered again: "Its always me, always me. Now its someone elses turn to volunteer!"Men's Buffalo Sabres

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