Legal Issues

Legal Issues

by Mike Masnick


Filed Under:
australia, copyright, tv guide

Companies:
icetv, nine network



Australian High Court Says Electronic TV Guide Isn't Copyright Infringement

from the good-news! dept

Back in 2006, an Australian TV network, The Nine Network, sued a startup, IceTV, for creating an electronic program guide that listed out when TV programs played for use in programming DVRs and such. It was difficult to see how a simple listing of TV program info could be infringement, but an Australian court disagreed, saying that the networks owned their own scheduling info. Luckily, however, Phill informs us that Australia's high court has overturned the lower court ruling, saying that creating your own TV program guide without licensing the info is perfectly legal. It's sad that it had to take nearly three years for this conclusion, but at least it's the right result.

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  1. Apr 29th, 2009 @ 1:46pm

    Europe as well

    by Anonymous coward

    A group called VG Media in Germany, which represents several major private broadcasters, is actively sueing both print and electronic program providers for listing their programs and not paying an exorbitant "licensing" fee...the world has gone mad.

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  2. Apr 29th, 2009 @ 2:36pm
    by Anonymous Coward

    Wouldn't a tv programming schedule be considered fact to an extent? I thought you were unable to claim copyright on facts...

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  3. Apr 29th, 2009 @ 2:41pm

    Re:

    by Analyst

    Exactly

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  4. Apr 29th, 2009 @ 2:46pm

    Re:

    by Anonymous Coward

    But the schedule is subject to change so its not exactly a fact just highly probable.

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  5. Apr 29th, 2009 @ 5:47pm

    Re: Re:

    by neil

    um no!
    facts can change look at the law of gravity it was a fact that gravity worked on Newton's law but then Einstein shattered it.

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  6. Apr 29th, 2009 @ 6:07pm

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    by Anonymous Coward

    It's all relative

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  7. Apr 29th, 2009 @ 6:08pm
    by Anonymous Coward

    It would be funny if one would publish their schedule.

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  8. Apr 29th, 2009 @ 6:55pm

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    by Anonymous Coward

    It would be funny if NO one would publish their schedule.

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  9. Apr 30th, 2009 @ 12:16am

    Re:

    Wouldn't a tv programming schedule be considered fact to an extent? I thought you were unable to claim copyright on facts...

    In the US, yes. In many other countries they have "database rights" which allow you to get a copyright on a "collection of facts" such as an entire TV listing...

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  10. May 1st, 2009 @ 10:17pm

    What worries me ...

    by icon Yeebok (profile)

    Is that given the quantity of viewers 9 has over here it's damned unlikely there'd be enough people using the service to make the time spent re-presenting the data worthwhile.

    9 does air 'a current affair' and 'today tonight'. Check them out for an example of tabloid TV..

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  11. May 22nd, 2009 @ 10:47pm
    by wefr

    111China printing industry developed this years, who can tell us? China based plastic injection molding services with low costs and supeior quality Steel and aluminum scaffolding for construction is a very useful tool.

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