Jason points us to the news that, once again, someone who doesn’t own the copyright to something has sent a DMCA takedown on a YouTube video. The link doesn’t fully explain the situation, which is explained in the following video:
But, basically, someone used a video to respond to a guy from the Discovery Institute concerning a recent appearance he made on Fox News. The Fox News video is Fox’s copyright. Yet, the Discovery Institute sent the takedown notice. Furthermore, the use of the video (even if Fox had sent the takedown) is almost certainly fair use. It was used for commentary in a non-commercial manner. The last time something like this happened (quite similar, actually) the EFF got involved, and forced the false DMCA issuer to rescind the DMCA notices, take a copyright law course and issue a public video apology.
I tend to favor intelligent design over evolutionism but this is a bad move on the part of the Discovery Institute. I always thought well of them but if they truly are concerned about spreading their message through their content, suing people who bring them publicity is not the way to do it.
and I have often criticized evolutionists for censoring criticisms and opposing views in classrooms and from the mainstream media but I will also criticize Intelligent Design advocates/Creationists when they are guilty of such actions.
Anonymous Cowardsays:
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Almost raged.
4/10
intervalsays:
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@Bettawrekonize: “…and I have often criticized evolutionists for censoring criticisms and opposing views in classrooms…”
1) Private parties can’t “censor” anyone, only authoritative bodies. Classmates by definition can’t “censor” you.
2) The usual problem evolutionists have with creationists (I won’t honor ID by naming it) is that creationists re-write the rules of the game and then declare themselves winners, without actually going through the process of observation and repartition, ie, the empirical method, successfully used to explore and explain all the other sciences. Its as if we two were playing chess and then all of a sudden you started playing checkers and declared yourself the winner by jumping all my chess pieces.
The guy is pleading for attorneys to help him (pro bono, one assumes) to defend himself against a clearly illegal use of the DMCA.
But, as our friends in the legal profession will assure us, all is well in the US “justice” system.
D/Led the vid. Just in case.
Anonymous Cowardsays:
Is someone attempting to jack this thread ?
sendethsays:
wow. i hope he sticks it to them good.
Anonymous Cowardsays:
The last time something like this happened (quite similar, actually) the EFF got involved, and forced the false DMCA issuer to rescind the DMCA notices, take a copyright law course and issue a public video apology.
the problem here is there is no expensive fine.
Anonymous Cowardsays:
What you don’t know is if the interview with Fox was done under contract with “rights reserved” by the interviewee. It also isn’t clear what rights they have to control their own image.
I suspect there is a slight bit more here than meets the eye.
Lucisays:
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And since there is a clause in the DMCA, which is illustrated in the above video, regarding use for commentary, satire, parody, etc, it does not matter who owns the copyright. This was a fair use exemption, so the claim that was filed was a false one.
Tom Andersonsays:
Fine, not apology, needed
Give them a $500 fine for false representation of a copyright.
snowsays:
ya...
almost like the government is big creationist cause god is written all over our dollar bills.
Until they have to pay hefty penalties, this type of abuse will continue.
“Oh, we’ve got to put up an apology? Oh, wow, I don’t think we can handle that!”
Of course, that won’t happen.
help take this jerk down>youtube.com/cooldudeal(user link)says:
take this jerk down
this guy steals stuff, nags other youtubers to take take content down from their youtube channel s, creates youtube accounts claiming hes a lawyer or a copyright registry >cncopyright, cnllegal.
he’s also copyright stuff in his vids
Comments on “Once Again, Before Sending A DMCA Takedown, It Helps To Actually Own The Content”
Ha ha
I tend to favor intelligent design over evolutionism but this is a bad move on the part of the Discovery Institute. I always thought well of them but if they truly are concerned about spreading their message through their content, suing people who bring them publicity is not the way to do it.
and I have often criticized evolutionists for censoring criticisms and opposing views in classrooms and from the mainstream media but I will also criticize Intelligent Design advocates/Creationists when they are guilty of such actions.
Re: Re:
Almost raged.
4/10
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@Bettawrekonize: “…and I have often criticized evolutionists for censoring criticisms and opposing views in classrooms…”
1) Private parties can’t “censor” anyone, only authoritative bodies. Classmates by definition can’t “censor” you.
2) The usual problem evolutionists have with creationists (I won’t honor ID by naming it) is that creationists re-write the rules of the game and then declare themselves winners, without actually going through the process of observation and repartition, ie, the empirical method, successfully used to explore and explain all the other sciences. Its as if we two were playing chess and then all of a sudden you started playing checkers and declared yourself the winner by jumping all my chess pieces.
That's just sad
The guy is pleading for attorneys to help him (pro bono, one assumes) to defend himself against a clearly illegal use of the DMCA.
But, as our friends in the legal profession will assure us, all is well in the US “justice” system.
D/Led the vid. Just in case.
Is someone attempting to jack this thread ?
wow. i hope he sticks it to them good.
The last time something like this happened (quite similar, actually) the EFF got involved, and forced the false DMCA issuer to rescind the DMCA notices, take a copyright law course and issue a public video apology.
the problem here is there is no expensive fine.
What you don’t know is if the interview with Fox was done under contract with “rights reserved” by the interviewee. It also isn’t clear what rights they have to control their own image.
I suspect there is a slight bit more here than meets the eye.
Re: Re:
And since there is a clause in the DMCA, which is illustrated in the above video, regarding use for commentary, satire, parody, etc, it does not matter who owns the copyright. This was a fair use exemption, so the claim that was filed was a false one.
Fine, not apology, needed
Give them a $500 fine for false representation of a copyright.
ya...
almost like the government is big creationist cause god is written all over our dollar bills.
crutch and state.
oh church and state sorry.
Discovery Institute, meet the Streisand Effect
Takedowns
Until they have to pay hefty penalties, this type of abuse will continue.
“Oh, we’ve got to put up an apology? Oh, wow, I don’t think we can handle that!”
Of course, that won’t happen.
take this jerk down
this guy steals stuff, nags other youtubers to take take content down from their youtube channel s, creates youtube accounts claiming hes a lawyer or a copyright registry >cncopyright, cnllegal.
he’s also copyright stuff in his vids