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Why Ralph Lauren Photoshopped That Model So Skinny... It Thought She Was Fat... At 120 lbs
from the how-nice dept
We recently wrote about Ralph Lauren's DMCA notices about bad Photoshopping, making a model impossibly (and sickly) skinny. While the company apologized for the bad photoshopping, it never apologized for the bogus DMCA takedowns. And, now the other shoe has dropped. The model in the picture has spoken up and noted that she lost her job with Ralph Lauren, because they felt she wasn't skinny enough, despite being 5'10" and 120lbs. So, rather than showing her as is, apparently the company decided to digitally alter her and then try to find someone who actually is closer to the impossible image they put in their ad.
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Actually, having seen a recent picture of her, I can say that RL may have been right. She is a pretty lean girl, but she seemed to have a pretty evident pot belly. "fat" doesn't mean overweight, it can just mean the weight isn't in the right place.
Someone who is 5 foot 10 and 120 pounds is lean, no double about it.
Perhaps you would want to run a real image of her, as opposed to this horrible photoshop?
http://freenet-homepage.de/bradvei1/scans/scans-2/bradvei-Filippa-Hamilton-MAXIMsept4. jpg
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Wow. I'm convinced you could post a story about Hitler Clones in Brazil, and some AC will come and start arguing 'nature vs. nurture.'
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that is no pot belly, by far.
However, I wonder if Ralph Lauren's motto is:
"it's impossible to be good enough for us" or so.
5'10 and 120lbs is pretty much as close to the border of anorexic as exists for that height in a woman.
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"but she seemed to have a pretty evident pot belly"
.......Bwah?
I went to the link, and I have to ask what in the sweet hell you are talking about. That woman is GORGEOUS and if you think THAT is a pot belly....come to the midwest, where we have plenty of men and women (many of them still attractive people) who have actual pot bellies....
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Why don't they just draw a stick figure and photoshop a head and clothes on it?
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OMG MY EYES!!!
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That's not a pot belly, those are her flat, toned, infinitely normal and necessary abodminal muscles.
I really hope you just forgot your sarcasm tags.
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"She is a pretty lean girl, but she seemed to have a pretty evident pot belly"
If that's some sort of problem, (I'm not saying it is, only "if") then photoshop that and only that out. I see no reason to photoshop everything about her out so that she looks unhealthy and malnourished.
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You say the girl's fat and post that of all pictures? You should just stop talking now. Go crawl back in your hole and stay there troll.
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I agree that there is no pot belly, they're called her internal organs
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"She is a pretty lean girl, but she seemed to have a pretty evident pot belly"
I have one thing to say to that ...cheapeyeglasses.com
Get some and look again
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Actually, having seen a recent picture of her, I can say that RL may have been right.
So says the one who actually 'shoped the image.
You're an idiot if you truly believe your own words.
I have seen other photos of her (untouched) and she's more than suitable for pushing an exaggerated form to young girls who truly do have a pot belly, forcing their self-confidence over their looks even further into darkness.
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Post number 7 by Hec is dead on. That is NOT a pot belly. The shirt ends where her waist line is and is already pretty narrow. Everything below the belly button is hips. Maybe the shadows, clothing, and basic lack of understanding of the female form are throwing off the first poster?
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Oh please! Is there really one person that didn't even think that picture was photoshoped? I mean, really, it looks like a first homework for photoshop student(Not a very good homework).
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Was she in District 9? I can see a definite bit of skin retouching there.
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I agree. I think Ralph Lauren should strive for being so exclusive no one can buy their products. And I mean NO ONE.
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Fat?!
Has anyoen who said this girl has a potbelly actually image searched filippa hamilton??
If the answer is 'no,' then you should probably shut up.
If the answer is 'yes,' then you should probably shut up.
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Understanding the female form? Not on my internets!
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"They fired here because they said she was overweight and she couldn't fit in their clothes anymore".... well then I guess 99.9% of the population can also not fit into their cloths - a doomed business model.
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"I agree that there is no pot belly, they're called her internal organs"
Apparently Ralph Lauren would like those gone as well. No digestive track = no calorie absorption = no more 'too-fat' 120 lb. model! Probably no pulse too, but they'll just Photoshop out the corpse-blue skin color.
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It could be that they don't want models that are normal showing the clothes as opposed to normal people buying those clothes.
I look for something that looks decent on somebody like Drew Carey.
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? Dude, you posted the wrong link to whatever image you saw. Pot belly? GTF out of here....
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Looks much, much better non-photoshopped, lol
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Men don't like skin and bones, and women know that for the most part. The clothing industry seems to be sending the wrong message. It seems like they believe the ideal women should look like they are from Somalia and should be lining up for a bag of grain from the UN. But that's not the type of woman that's attractive.
Put women that are normal and look like women we know in the ads. After all, real men don't go to department stores to watch women put on clothes. Hell, most of us have problems deciding between your black or red dress. Yes, Honey, you look great in both.
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BMI
BMI Categories:
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Tsk tsk, AC #1. Except for that girl being absolutely stunning with no sign of a "pot belly", the image you posted is probably © by Ralph Lauren! ;)
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Bring on the fatties!
If all the fat women in my city were built like that, I'd be a chubby chaser.
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You seem to think these ads are for men. They aren't.
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What are you smoking, Anonymous Coward 1? She is totally hot in that photo you posted -- no potbelly there.
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Your right, but right next to these ads in the magazines they talk about a host of problems like anorexia, bulimia, all kinds of other immune-system related issues. Then on page three, they have an expose on how Jennifer Lopez is somehow real unattractive and overweight.
Yet no one seems to be able to figure out the correlation.
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Why dont we go back to corsets and remove ribs too? Women need some fat in there body you know.
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And you can stop ordering the supersize fries and buying the economy size snicker bar bags. I can't see anything wrong with her.. except she is too skinny. Real men like curves!
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Really?
Jeez AC#1...
My gfs and I always say that a guy that loves girls with little boy bodies has a tinii penii.
As for real pot bellies (and yes, I have one. I had two children so it's kinda hard to lose that) I was very self-conscious. But my boyfriend loves to play with that particular part of my anatomy. I was the one that had to get over my hang-ups about it.
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At first I was like
>_> at the fact that she weighed 120 lbs, but then I realized that she's 5'10" and that's about as skinny as you can get at that height without looking like you're dying.
This makes me sick. Real women have curves.
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If you look at the Sports Illustrated Swimbo issue desk calendar, you'll notice that the majority of the 365 photos are outtakes from the shoots that produced the issue. While still good, they have something or another than disqualified them from print - usually incorrect exposures, unflattering shadows, odd poses - and a few of them are clearly because the girls look *fat*. Not the muffin-top spongy look of normal people, but the "more weight than a supermodel should have showing" sort of thing.
Look at Rebecca Romijn on "Eastwick" - she recently had twins and is carrying her post-partum weight and she sure doesn't look like she did as Mystique, though remember the X-Men movies were made 4-10 years ago.
For someone who has 3 kids of her own, I don't get why Angelina Jolie is so skinny now. Both in "Wanted" and set shots from "Salt", she looks too scrawny to kick ass. She needs to get back to her "Tomb Ho" and "Mrs. & Mrs. Smith" weight where she looked luscious and unlikely to snap her arms while beating the crap out of someone.
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The model is super *HOT*.
The PS image is just plain silly looking. Something that someone would do using some web based java "fun photo distorter" as a joke.
I'm hoping they fired their marketing "artist" and everyone on the approval chain. It's poor workmanship that never should have been published.
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I don't see anything wrong with this...
I count my 117 lb 5'8" gf's calories all the time because even a gain in 5 lb's would cause me to think she's fat. She gets very annoyed when I do so, and she complains about it to other people like my friends and family. I personally hate curves because I know in 5-10 years those curves will turn into cellulite and I won't even be able to look at the girl. Been 6 years, and she's STILL with me, somehow.
RL needs to give off the perception that their clothes will make people look skinny. Makes sense to me. I saw her on the new news, and she wasn't fat but she wasn't skinny either. Just regular.
The mentality here in socal is that women need to be skinny and fashionable. Whenever I visit the midwest or east coast, I am appalled at how ugly people are. The women wear no makeup, are 50 lbs overweight, and have no sense of fashion. Seriously, I'd say that MAYBE 1 in 10,000 are even remotely attractive. You just would have to understand the culture out here in order to judge the rationale behind RL's decision.
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I wish my wife had a pot belly like that...
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If someone said "You're fired because you're too fat"...
...makes me wonder if someone at Ralph Lauren was really aiming to show what the clothes would look like on a 90-lb boy. It's a very unattractive photoshop disaster!
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Shoot the Victim
Filippa Hamilton was thrown under the bus.
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Socal
Sucks.
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You appear to have some severely unrealistic ideas about what women should look like (hint: everything that makes them look female rather than like 12 year old boys - boobs, ass, etc - is made of fat). It's a shame you feel you have to push your delusion onto your girlfriend (*you* wouldn't be counting her calories if she was doing it for herself instead of for you), and I feel sorry that your being with her seems to depend on whether her body goes through a natural ageing process or not.
"The mentality here in socal is that women need to be skinny and fashionable."
That doesn't make it right. Besides, "skinny" doesn't have to mean "bag of bones". There's a large gap between a woman with natural curves and one who's overweight by any rational measure.
"You just would have to understand the culture out here in order to judge the rationale behind RL's decision."
We understand it, and understand that it's shallow, pathetic and damaging. But understanding it doesn't mean we have to think it's acceptable.
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GOD you must be trolling...
"I count my 117 lb 5'8" gf's calories all the time because even a gain in 5 lb's would cause me to think she's fat."
You're the idiot that caused the overreaching and equally idiotic "Women's movement" (quotes? because they don't really represent ALL women's interests, only those that agree with their idiotic point of view).
"I personally hate curves because I [am a closet pedophile]"
FTFY
"The mentality here in socal is that women need to be skinny and fashionable."
Reason number 48,344 that SoCal needs to be nuked off the planet...
"Whenever I visit the midwest or east coast, I am appalled at how ugly people are."
Okay, are you for real? Please walk through downtown Chicago any day of the week (particularly in the summer) and tell me that the women in my fair city aren't GORGEOUS. St. Louis? Same. Twin Cities? Same. Cleveland? Same. All are the same, with the possible exception of Milwaukee, where the average in looks dips a bit :)
"The women wear no makeup"
Not
"are 50 lbs overweight"
Not
"and have no sense of fashion"
Yeah, you're an idiot. Name the single most popular female icon in America when it comes to current fashion trends and then tell me where she's from. The correct answer is Michelle Obama and Chicago, tard.
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I just wanted to say, I just scrapped my plans to order a tube of Polo Sport aftershave balm and bottle of cologne (Ralph Lauren products) and will be using something else in the future. Suggestions?
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Eau d'Shwartz....
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I recommend Bulgari Black. My wife bought it for me recently, and I've gotten many compliments. John Varvatos colognes are also very nice.
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What's sexy about narrow-hipped-tiny-tit-no-butt-flatbellies??
Everything, if you're a fashion designer. Because that describes their actual sexual targets: teenage boys.
Seriously, the people who design these clothes are more attracted to waifish butt boys than real women. Thus are the standards of what a "high-fashion model" should look like derived.
Not that there's anything wrong with THAT*.
*-waste of money and time and the destruction of self-respect for millions of girls and women aside...
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May the Shwartz be with you.
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"Overweight"??? WTF. Much more likely, she just refused to get laid by the boss.
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haha. You guys are pretty stupid. That picture I linked wasn't of her pot belly, but rather a very nice (but NORMAL) image of a very pretty model. As you said yourself, GORGEOUS and certainly not a stick figure.
http://www.radaronline.com/sites/default/files/photos/image_20091014/RalphLaurenPhillipa. jpg
This gives you a better idea, I would say she isn't quite the same shape as she was even a year ago. There is a picture circulating around that shows her in a brown evening gown and a notable curve to the front of it.
Remember, fashion houses like their models to stay in size (whatever their default size is) and straying from that is usually a termination of contract by terms.
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Uh, you can't see any potbelly in THAT picture either...
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Where the hell is that pot belly?
She is not sickly skinny, like RL obviously want their models, but she is in no way fat either.
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There IS something wrong with your gf. What is wrong is that she is still WITH you at all.
If 5 pounds is going to be the difference between you wanting her or not wanting her, there is also something very wrong with YOU.
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Pez Dispenser
Ralph Lauren seems to prefer his models to look more like Pez dispensers than to look like women.
Why not just put the clothes on hangers and photograph them? All he wants is a walking hanger anyway. Something that won't mess up the lines of the clothing with annoying things like curves in the body.
Sheesh.
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1. is that a "real" picture of her?
2. I don't see her "pot belly"
3. if she has a pot belly at 120 pounds, maybe she'd just drunk a glass of water, I mean think about it, having dropped 15 pounds myself, it's amazing how "fat" I perceive myself when I'm eaten or drunk, as opposed to when I'm very hungry. There's nowhere for that stuff to hide
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1. is that a "real" picture of her?
2. I don't see her "pot belly"
3. if she has a pot belly at 120 pounds, maybe she'd just drunk a glass of water, I mean think about it, having dropped 15 pounds myself, it's amazing how "fat" I perceive myself when I'm eaten or drunk, as opposed to when I'm very hungry. There's nowhere for that stuff to hide
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I am not trolling I am being 100% serious.
LOL yea Michelle Obama is the trend setter for young women, riiiigghhtt. You may have a different opinion of beauty and what overweight is. It's fine, you are used to it because that's all you know. Come to Laguna Beach or Newport and tell me your women are hotter. You may think 160 is an average weight for a woman. To me, that is grotesquely overweight. It's all good man, enjoy your extra cushion, but know that Hollywood sets the fashion, not your loser states. I was born in Chicago btw and when I visit my family there and in Wisconsin I'm disgusted by the people I see. So many fat women, God! Oh and St. Louis, the second worst city in the country instead of it's old standing of being the worst! Good job citing that as a place with reputably good looking people. Don't be jealous because all you got are butchy fat women.
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Well, I didn't say it was selfish of me to think that way or make her watch her weight, but it'd be just as selfish for her to get fatter and have to make me embarrassed in public lol.
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Maybe you aren't trolling, maybe you're just a giant dick tool.
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I can hear conservative America applauding that comment.
"I dont want her to embarrass me".
Women aren't made of solid gold, they get old and wrinkly like normal humans. Maybe you need to find a Real Doll suitable for your tastes.
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With a nickname like Bendy, I question your manhood anyway...
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Oops, they did it again...
http://rubyroom.aol.co.uk/2009/10/16/ralph-lauren-photoshop-controversy-continues/
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Ralph Lauren ads are not targeted at men (who like women with toned bodies), they are targeted at women who believe that with the right close they can look more like the model. The point of the ad is to sell clothes to the vulnerable.
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You must live exclusively in the internet. Her belly is amazing. If she were any skinnier she'd be sick - she'd need hospitalization.
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haha
This is a pretty hilarious picture. I almost vomited. Maybe if she didn't have clothes on, I would.
I don't have kids, and wow, I can't imagine trying to raise them in this twisted, immoral world.
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I'm the same height as Philippa, and weigh only a few kilos more. But by BMI-standards, I am underweight. In the 'normal' photos of her, make-up, the right lighting and a little bit of photoshop (it's still there, just less obvious) try to make her look like a healthy woman, but her hip- and wristbones are still sticking out. This means she is skinny to the point that she'll bruise very easily, will feel cold very easily, and can probably draw her own skeleton quite accurately based on feeling her bones.
On the photograph where she wears the black top that would be showing her pot-belly: it's a stupid design. Even 12 year old girls can look a bit pregnant wearing that type of top (although I still can't see the pot-belly there, since there's fabric falling over her belly, so it's virtually impossible to determine its form). And even then, possible reasons for a woman's belly sticking out a bit:
- bad posture
- she drunk a lot of water
- she's having her period
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I am not trolling I am being 100% serious.
I hope your girlfriend dumps you (as in garbage) immediately. Either way, it sounds like you're going to die alone, because all the women your age will be "disgusting" and the 20 year olds won't give you a second look. Sounds fitting.
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Godwin'd in two posts... excellent. Your point is well taken though.
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Dark Helmet, thanks for answering Brenda's post so well, pretty much put my "STFU" to shame.
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>>Women need some fat in there body you know.
That's what men are for...
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Dear Brendy, I hope your "girlfriend" kills you with a bag of dicks. Unfortunately, if she's been with you for six years of calorie counting, she's too emotionally damaged to stand up to you at all.
Helmet's response was unfortunately incomplete. Every single sentence in your original post was either factually inaccurate or completely batshit insane. I would really love to think that you're trolling, because your posts are so chauvinistic and show an appreciation of everything superficial about "girl(s)" that I don't want to believe they are spoken by a real person.
Your attitude toward women would have been charmingly obnoxious in the 50's, and you clearly have no idea what BMI is or is even supposed to mean. Your us/them attitudes, be it state to state or gender to gender, are quite disturbing. Have you ever considered professional help? Your posts are too frightening to be real and too consistent to be a troll.
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"Unfortunately, if she's been with you for six years of calorie counting, she's too emotionally damaged to stand up to you at all."
Ding. You hit that nail right on the head.
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please men are useless and know nothing about beauty to let alone comment on it. women are all shaps and sizes. having small breast is just as beautiful and femmine as having larger breast because women come in all shaps and sizes. so men quit trying to make your useless opions matter because they don't. being small dos NOT make a woman boyish. it simply just means she's small all men need to die to improve the self esteem of women
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Her shoulders are in the wrong place; she doesn't even look like a real skinny person.
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she still looks kinda fat they should have taken some weight from her head
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hey pop sugar your useless
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People are retarted! All models dont have to be the size of a toothpick. Its no reason for photoshopping people.
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