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by Mike Masnick


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Cory Doctorow Joins The CwF+RtB Experimental Crew

from the good-for-him dept

Writer Cory Doctorow has long been a leading thinker/experimenter when it comes to issues of copyright and content creation -- having long put his works under very permissive Creative Commons license, and making sure that his books were available in all sorts of different formats. However, for the most part, he kept using the same basic business model. However, it looks like he's jumping on board our favored "tiered" CwF+RtB model. Reader Russell sends in the news that Doctorow will not just be self-publishing his next book, but is also offering various "tiers" for support. The ebook and the audiobook will be free, but the physical book will cost money. On top of that, there will be a limit of 250 specially bound limited edition hardcover versions for $250. He also sold a $10,000 commissioned story, which was already sold before he announced this (he thinks he priced it too low). Finally, he may experiment with ads in the book as well. It will be interesting to see how well this works, though I think the tiers could include some more options/creativity, as most people don't have many options outside of the basic book. Still, it's great to see these tiered direct-to-fan CwF+RtB offerings getting closer and closer to being mainstream.

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  1. Oct 20th, 2009 @ 2:51am

    Yes.

    by icon Rose M. Welch (profile)

    Doctorow is so fucking cool. :)

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  2. Oct 20th, 2009 @ 5:16am

    WTF are the tshirts?

    by icon chris (profile)

    i want a "little brother" tshirt in the worst way (the UK hardcover artwork would be awesome).

    i bought a "geek mafia" tshrit from rick dakan at notacon this year and i wear it with pride. sure would like a little brother T as well :-)

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  3. Oct 20th, 2009 @ 5:56am

    Research

    by icon Richard (profile)

    Because of the free licenses his books are prime for use in AI research projects - so expect them to turn up in all kinds of unexpected places.

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  4. Oct 20th, 2009 @ 6:04am

    customised covers

    by icon emmet (profile)

    "I'm also offering a custom-cover package for people running events or giveaways: for a setup fee (I'm thinking $300, but that's not fixed in stone), I'll sell you as many copies at Lulu's cost as you'd like with your own cover on it."

    I think this is an excellent idea! He should offer it to everyone. I could certainly imagine myself stumping up some extra cash to get my favourite novels in a customised cover, even if I already own the original.

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  5. Oct 20th, 2009 @ 6:27am

    Wow...

    by icon Dark Helmet (profile)

    I've been wondering for a while now how one translates FREE! into making a living writing fiction...and here is a possible answer.

    Great starting point, though I've read tons of bad ink on Lulu....

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  6. Oct 20th, 2009 @ 6:50am

    CwF

    I think its also worth mentioning that Doctorow's plan wouldn't be successful if he didn't do such a good job with the CwF part of the equation: he frequently interacts with his fans on BoingBoing (for free!), and learns what THEY want to read about while getting them interested in in what he is writing about it.
    I'm not a huge fan of his writing, but I certainly applaud this move by him.

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  7. Oct 20th, 2009 @ 9:19am

    LOL @ ads in the book...

    by icon The Buzz Saw (profile)

    Mary was extremely frightened. Blood stained the walls. She took one step closer to the door, slowly pushing it open, when suddenly 60% OFF ALL GOLF CLUBS AT GOLF WORLD USA! PRESENT THIS COUPON TO RECEIVE A FREE BOX OF GOLF BALLS WITH ANY PURCHASE OF $100 OR MORE!

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  8. Oct 20th, 2009 @ 9:39am
    by Anonymous Coward

    Here's a novel idea for a novel: for X dollars, you get as many copies at Cost with one of the (main) characters name changed to your own.

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  9. Oct 20th, 2009 @ 9:53am
    by Lucretious

    always enjoyed Cory's short form sci-fi and his work at Boing Boing.

    welcome sir!

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  10. Oct 20th, 2009 @ 2:32pm
    by Anonymous Coward

    See now Mike, here is one of those disclosure moments we talk about in another thread.

    http://techdirt.com/search.php?site=&cx=partner-pub-4050006937094082%3Acx0qff-dnm1&am p;cof=FORID%3A9&ie=ISO-8859-1&q=Cory+Doctorow

    Basically, now any time you mention anything about Cory, you need to mention that he is part of your CwF project. Obviously he is now part of your marketing package, part of the team.

    See how that works?

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  11. Oct 20th, 2009 @ 5:20pm

    Re:

    Basically, now any time you mention anything about Cory, you need to mention that he is part of your CwF project. Obviously he is now part of your marketing package, part of the team.

    Reading comprehension time. We have nothing to do with Cory's experiment. The point is he's the latest to do that type of experiment.

    See how that works?

    Nope. You're still wrong, it appears.

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  12. Oct 20th, 2009 @ 6:58pm

    Re: Re:

    by Anonymous Coward

    Sorry Mike, perhaps you can write a little bit more clearly next time?

    "jumping on board our favored "tiered" CwF+RtB model."

    Would suggest he is joining your model, not making his own.

    FAIL!

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  13. Oct 20th, 2009 @ 10:34pm

    Re: Re: Re:

    Sorry Mike, perhaps you can write a little bit more clearly next time?

    Sorry, Alex, perhaps you can read a bit more carefully, next time?

    1. The model we discuss, CwF+RtB has referred to plenty of things that had nothing to do with us directly. In fact, we first coined the phrase about Trent Reznor using it, and we have no working relationship with Reznor at all and had never spoken to him or anyone who works with him at the time.

    2. In this post, we point out that a reader sent this in. How would a reader alert us to it if it was us working with Cory?

    3. The rest of the post explains where I think he could have done a better job in setting his thing up.

    You have to have a stupendous inability to read to get confused here. Might want to check on that.

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  14. Oct 21st, 2009 @ 6:29am

    Re: Re: Re: Re:

    by icon Dark Helmet (profile)

    "Sorry, Alex, perhaps you can read a bit more carefully, next time?"

    Ooooops!

    Alex? Who is Alex and how do you know the AC's first name? And what's his last name? And who does he/she work for?

    Freudian slip?

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