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Culture

Culture

by Mike Masnick


Filed Under:
business models, connect with fans, cwf, fanfarlo, music, reason to buy, rtb

Companies:
topspin



Four Rules For Music Business Success

from the don't-suck dept

The Topspin blog has a story of one of the bands they've worked with, a lesser known act called Fanfarlo, that was able to reach some specific goals in promoting itself and building up its fan base, while getting many to commit to paying. From that, the post discusses a four step "formula" that the band used for success (listed here with my summary):

  1. Don't suck: something that often gets lost in these discussions. The music still does need to be good. All of these business models are that much harder if the music isn't any good and fans don't like it. Playing good music is a definite first step.
  2. Get others to introduce you to their audience: This is another good point. I've been talking to some musicians lately, who were trying to understand how to best apply some of this stuff, and I often suggest looking for other, more well-known acts, that the band can work with to get some sort of endorsement, or "opening" slot on a tour (or even just a gig) as a way of reaching more fans. The Topspin post points out that some people assume that this is the real story behind the success of Fanfarlo, but the numbers don't bear that out. It probably accounted for approximately 30% of the band's sales. Not shabby, but hardly the only reason for the band's success.
  3. Make those audiences an offer they can't refuse: In this case, the band offered a download of their album, plus four bonus tracks for $1 for a limited time. Yes, all of the songs combined for a dollar -- not each of them for a dollar apiece. While I normally support just giving away the music for free, I can see a reason to offer them all for a dollar in some situations. In this case, it gets more people to commit to the music and the band, but at a price that is much easier to deal with. I'm still not convinced that $1 is better than free, but it sure beats regular album prices. While this offer was for a limited time, after it was over, the band still offered the download cheaply ($6).
  4. Repeat: This is another important one. We keep hearing bands put in place business model promotions that are one time deals, rather than a fully thought-out continuous and ongoing business model. By repeating the process, not only can a band keep making money, but it lets them iterate and experiment, and find out what works (and what doesn't.).
In this case, it looks like things definitely worked. It was able to get 15,000 new fans on its mailing list, with a rather stunning 13,000 of those buying something (but fans just want stuff for free, right?). Of those who simply viewed the download offer, an amazing 22% made a purchase. That's an insane conversion rate. Also 30% of the download buyers came back and bought a physical product later (CD, vinyl or special edition).

All in all, yet another successful example of a band figuring out ways to connect with fans while giving them a reason to buy.

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Culture

Culture

by Mike Masnick


Filed Under:
business models, economics, music, stories, success

Companies:
nettwerk, topspin



Nettwerk, Topspin Show: Give People A Reason To Buy... And Many Of Them Come Through

from the some-data dept

In the last post, I showed the video of my presentation at the NARM event full of music industry and music industry retailers. I recognize that not everyone wants to sit through a 30 minute presentation (even though I promise that it goes quickly!), so I did want to highlight two parts of it separately, here in text, that I think are worth calling out. Both show companies that seem to (implicitly or explicitly) recognize what we talk about in terms of enabling artists to better connect with their fans and give those fans a reason to buy -- Topspin and Nettwerk. We've certainly talked about both in various posts, but execs from both companies were kind enough to share some data on some of their experiments that have not been reported elsewhere, and which I thought was worth sharing.

Topspin, of course, has built up a platform to better enable artists to both connect with fans and to give them a reason to buy, and has been able to work with some fantastic artists, both big and small, including Eminem, Paul McCartney, the Beastie Boys, Metric, Beck, Van Hunt, David Byrne and a bunch of others as well. The exciting thing is the level of success Topspin has found with these artists:

  • The average transaction price across all Topspin artists has been $22. Compare that to the average price of a CD, which remains between $12 and $14. If you give people a reason to buy, they're willing to pay more. It's obviously not just about "getting stuff for free" as some contend.
  • Even better, two separate artists using TopSpin have found that their average transaction price is between $50 and $100.
  • Finally, one artist using Topspin has found (amazingly) that the average transaction price from what was being offered was greater than $100.
  • And, on top of that, on one recent project, they found that 84% of the orders were premium offers (meaning above the lowest tier).
The idea that people just want stuff for free? Debunked. Give people a reason to buy in the form of real value they can't get elsewhere, and they absolutely will. About an hour after my talk, Ian Rogers, CEO of Topspin did a keynote interview at the same event. You can watch it here:
Separately, we've definitely been quite impressed with what Terry McBride has done lately with some artists who work with Nettwerk, the indie label/artist management company. Terry's very much been a believer in the mantra of connecting with fans and giving them a reason to buy, and has even talked about how the whole concept of copyright has become outdated. His view isn't that this is necessarily a good or bad thing, but it's just the way it is, and in helping the artists he works with, they have to figure out ways to work with it. To date, that's included a lot of creative ideas for better connecting with fans and then giving them a reason to buy. One experiment he did was with the artist K-OS, who did a few different experiments, starting with allowing the fans to create their own "mix" of his latest album. Not a remix, but a mix. They released the stems of the songs before the album was released, let the fans create their own mixes, had them vote on the best, and then released two albums at the same time. One was the "pro" mix and the other was the "fan" mix. Then you could buy either one separately, or both together as a package.

The second experiment was the "pay on your way out" concert tour. Realistically speaking, this was a series of ten "free" shows. You could get in for free, but they asked you to pay what you felt was reasonable on the way out. Given the insistence by people that fans just want something for free, you would expect that very few would actually pay anything at all. Of course, that wasn't what happened.

Terry was kind enough to share with us some data from the experiment. Despite being free to come and go without paying anything, 63% of people attending ended up donating money on the way out. Now I'm sure some folks will mock this and say that he could have made more by charging everyone, but it seems quite likely that a lot more people came out to these free shows than if he had made people pay in advance. Almost two thirds of people ended up paying, totally voluntarily -- and their average donation was $6. Again, some will claim that this is low, but you have to look at the bigger overall picture. During this tour each of the two K-OS CDs were separately in the top 50 list of best sellers.

So, he gave a series of free shows that ended up bringing in tens of thousands of dollars combined (average attendance at each show was approximately 1,000 people) and it helped get a lot of people to buy both the CDs that were being offered in support of K-OS. Some people are going to nitpick the numbers, of course, but the evidence remains clear again: it's not that fans just want stuff for free. If you give them a reason to buy, an awful lot of them will absolutely buy.

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Culture

by Mike Masnick


Filed Under:
music industry, optimism, recording industry, startups

Companies:
100000fans, band metrics, bandize, drop.io, instinctiv, jamendo, thesixtyone, topspin



Last Chance For The Old Recording Industry... But Plenty Of Excitement In The New Music Industry

from the time-to-be-optimistic dept

I spent Monday at the wonderful SanFran MusicTech Summit and I have to admit that I came away quite optimistic. You may recall earlier this year that my takeaway from MidemNet was how optimistic people were becoming -- but how much the old school industry folks then took that optimism and twisted it into something bad (saying things like "we have to stop treating our fans as criminals, but we need to stomp out piracy at any cost!"). In contrast, I have to say that after the SF MusicTech event, I'm back to the optimistic viewpoint, though I recognize there's still plenty of shaking out to occur.

Terry McBride, whose insights always are worth thinking deeply about, made a comment that this was "the last chance for the music industry" to stop screwing things up and pissing off customers, and that it was time to get it right: meaning stop treating customers as criminals, stop focusing on the sale of things that people don't want to pay for and stop worrying about copyright (he even agreed with David Bowie's comment that copyright was over). I agree with much of what McBride said, with one exception: this isn't the last chance for the music industry. The music industry is doing great -- with more music than ever before being produced and available to fans, and more musicians than ever before being able to connect directly with fans and put in place a business model that works for them, instead of getting worked over by a major label with a dreadful contract. Instead, I'd argue that it's the major labels who have one more chance... and even that may be iffy given how badly they've screwed some stuff up in the past decade.

But much of the rest of the event showed why there's so much reason for optimism. There are so many different startups entering the space these days that it's honestly difficult to keep track of them. And while the market is certainly confusing, we'll start to see some clear leaders shake out of the pack in the next few years. But, combine it all and these startups provide all of the tools that any musician today needs to record, perform, build a fan base, manage a fan base, tour, manage a tour, connect with fans, communicate with fans, transact with fans, promote, distribute, analyze and share. Basically, absolutely everything that you used to need a record label for is showing up from a hodge podge of startups. They don't all necessarily work well or work together, but that'll change over time. On top of this, there are additional tools that let you do things that simply weren't possible before, such as providing better, more detailed recommendation systems and analytics. Among the cool or compelling companies I saw or spoke with at the event were Band Metrics, Topspin, Bandize, 100000Fans, Instinctiv, Jamendo, Drop.io, thesixtyone... and those were just the ones that I'm remembering off the top of my head. There were at least two dozen other interesting startups as well.

Again, this doesn't mean there's no room for a label anymore -- but the role of that label changes. Some bands won't need labels at all, and will be able to manage everything themselves using these tools and services. Others will rely on label reps to help piece all of the different services together, so they can focus on the music. But the routes around the old system are growing at a phenomenal rate. On top of that, there were some major label representatives who actually seem to recognize all of this, even if not all of their colleagues agree.

So while I am still nervous about what the old guard and its lobbyists will do to laws around the globe, the next generation is clearly growing up from below. It's quite messy right now, but it's coming. Fast.

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by Mike Masnick


Filed Under:
business models, music, platforms, premiums, reason to buy

Companies:
topspin



Topspin Shows That Premium Offerings Get Sales: People Will Pay For Value Beyond The Music

from the a-reason-to-buy dept

It's really been great over the past year or so to see more and more bands adopting business models that involve tiered "premium" options that add real value for fans -- the key to creating a real reason to buy, as discussed in my MidemNet presentation a couple months ago. We've seen all different variations on the tiered theme from Trent Reznor to Kristin Hersh to Jill Sobule to John Wesley Harding and many others. Personally, I still think that the most creative of the bunch is Josh Freese's tiers that go from just fun to ridiculous (one option lets you keep his car -- after you drop him off at home).

One of the companies that's doing a good job helping some musicians make this model work is TopSpin, who we've discussed before. In fact, TopSpin has helped Reznor and Freese with their offerings (as well as the Beastie Boys, who recently launched something similar, as well). With TopSpin's platform coming out of beta this week, the company has released some data on its success so far, and it's impressive -- especially for those of you who keep insisting that fans these days just want music for free and are unwilling to pay for anything.

  • Its campaigns have certainly helped bands grow their audience and improved ways to connect with fans. One of its first major projects was the release of David Byrne's latest album, and it increased his email list by 3000%. (Update: Originally we said 37%, but that was wrong. It's actually 30x, or 3000% as per Topspin).
  • The various projects have shown that people are quite willing to pay if they're provided with real value and given a real (rather than artificial) reason to buy. The average transaction price is $22 -- significantly more than what people are paying for "just the music" and even more than what an average CD costs.
  • Perhaps the most appealing stat: on a recent project 84% of the orders were premium offers above the lowest tier. People will pay more for being given real value, rather than just being forced to pay for the music.
This is great news. Unfortunately, TopSpin is still rather limited right now to bigger name artists (they pick and choose who they work with). I think the world is open for another player to come in and disrupt the market by making such systems available for anyone. Also, in the various projects that TopSpin has run so far, I still think the pricing is a little off (Reznor's was the exception, and he only used TopSpin's backend, rather than its whole program). Also, it seems pretty rare for artists using TopSpin to offer a free option, which limits opportunity greatly (and drives folks to file sharing, rather than opening up a better relationship with those fans, and maybe gaining an email contact and the ability to create sales later). This is (I hope?) an issue from the musicians' side, rather than TopSpin's.

It's also worth noting that the company has also announced a program with Berklee College of Music to teach courses to musicians in how to leverage TopSpin for better business models. Hopefully at least some of that class will include an explanation of how using free as a part of your business model can extend it even further.

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Predictions

Predictions

by Mike Masnick


Filed Under:
business models, enabling, marketing, music

Companies:
topspin



The New Music Business: Enabling Musicians To Take Advantage Of New Business Models

from the nice-to-see dept

It seems that whenever we write about various bands embracing new business models, one of the criticisms raised is this idea that we're somehow expecting musicians to also become businessmen to embrace these new models. Nothing could be further from the truth. In fact, we've pointed out that this is exactly the space on which record labels should be focused: helping musicians embrace these new business models, helping to handle the business and the technology, while the musicians focus on the music. Unfortunately, most major record labels still haven't figured this out, due to either legacy issues and contracts, an unwillingness to let go of old business models, or simple cluelessness.

Of course, the longer the major labels take to realize that this is where the market is headed, the bigger the opportunities there are for others to come in and fill that "enablement" gap. There are going to be more and more interesting startups entering the space. One that's starting to get some buzz is TopSpin, which just revealed its business late last week. TopSpin got some press a few months back by getting Yahoo Music boss Ian Rogers to join as CEO. We've written about some of Rogers' cogent writings on the music business before.

TopSpin isn't a record label, but it wants to basically enable all sorts of internet-based business models to work for musicians so that they can focus on making music. From the sound of it, that involves plenty of backend infrastructure, as well as front-end components, so that musicians can easily pick and choose custom, scaleable business models for their website with little effort. The company already has a nice headstart (and even some high profile customers). What may be most interesting, however, is to see how the business model opportunities evolve over time, as TopSpin may grow to have the best understanding of what business models really work, depending on what the circumstances are for the band. That could be incredibly powerful data by itself.

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