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Legal Issues

by Mike Masnick


Filed Under:
search ads, trademark

Companies:
american airlines, google, yahoo



American Airlines Cuts & Pastes Its Keyword Ad Lawsuit; Tries Again With Yahoo

from the search-and-replace dept

Last year, we were surprised to see American Airlines sue Google over the fact that competitors were buying keyword-based ads on American Airlines' trademarks. Plenty of similar lawsuits had been brought, but for the most part (in the US at least), search engines are on the right side of the law. First of all, simply buying keywords based on trademarks isn't considered a violation of the trademark. Trademark law doesn't give you total control over the mark, but it is designed to prevent confusing uses. Advertising against a competitor isn't a confusing use by itself, so long as it's clear that the advertiser is different from the trademark holder. Second, and more importantly, even if it was a violation of trademark, the liability should fall on the advertiser, not the search engine. Since the search engine is just a platform, the real claim should be against whoever created and paid for the advertisement.

Given that the search engines have come out on top in many such cases, we were surprised this past summer to see Google and American Airlines settle the case, while keeping the actual details secret. Initially, it appeared that Google had won the settlement, as it was still possible to find those competing ads. However, it's possible that the terms of the settlement hadn't taken effect yet, as a more recent search no longer finds those ads. Even more damning is the news that American Airlines has now basically done a copy & paste and search & replace on the original lawsuit and re-filed it against Yahoo. It even includes the same mistakes as the first lawsuit. As Eric Goldman notes, this is strange for a variety of reasons, including the fact that Yahoo is known to be much more friendly to trademark holders in such cases. However, this certainly suggests that Google may have caved in its settlement, rather than the other way around. If so, that would have been an unfortunate decision by Google, and Google's settlement may only lead to more trademark holders taking their chances on suing as well.

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Legal Issues

Legal Issues

by Mike Masnick


Filed Under:
eruope, keywords, search ads, trademark

Companies:
google, louis vuitton



European Court To Review Whether Google Can Sell Ads On Trademarked Terms

from the hopefully-a-little-sanity dept

While US courts have (mostly) finally realized that simply selling search terms based on someone else's trademarked name should not make Google liable, French courts haven't been so enlightened. The huge fashion retailer Louis Vuitton won a lawsuit against Google, because some advertisers had purchased search ads on the term "Louis Vuitton" to advertise "Louis Vuitton Fakes" and "Louis Vuitton Replicas." It's hard to see the common sense reasoning to support LV in this case. In fact, the ruling seems problematic on two separate accounts -- both on the question of whether this was a trademark violation and whether it's Google who should be liable even if it is a trademark violation.

On the trademark question, a trademark is not about ownership of the mark itself, but it was designed to prevent customer confusion (i.e., telling someone that they were buying a Louis Vuitton product when it really wasn't). While the name is being used to sell counterfeit products, there shouldn't be any customer confusion here since the advertisements make it quite clear that the products for sale are fakes. No one will click on such an ad and think they are buying a legitimate item. So it's difficult to see how that leads to any sort of consumer harm.

On the liability question, even if you do believe that this is trademark infringement, the infringement is on the part of the advertiser, not Google. It's the advertiser that caused the confusion with the advertisement. Suing Google for such things is simply an attempt to shift the liability from the party who actually did something, to the company with a ton of money (funny how that works).

It appears that this case is now back up for discussion, as the case now moves out of France and into the European Court of Justice. Hopefully that court will be more reasonable in its approach to dealing with this particular issue.

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Rumors, Conspiracies, etc.

Rumors, Conspiracies, etc.

by Mike Masnick


Filed Under:
ad deals, mergers, search ads

Companies:
microsoft, yahoo



And... They're Back: Microsoft And Yahoo Talking Again

from the a-little-shove-from-Icahn dept

Amazing what a little shove from Carl Icahn can do. Microsoft admitted on Sunday that it's submitted a new proposal to Yahoo, though not an acquisition of the entire company. Without any additional details, it's difficult to know if this actually makes any sense for anyone involved, but it does show that this whole exercise is far from over. The rumor right now is that it involves Microsoft taking over Yahoo's search-related text advertising business, which Yahoo has been considering handing over to Google. Yahoo would retain its display advertising business and its other properties like Yahoo mail and instant messaging. In many ways, this makes sense. Yahoo has never been strong in search advertising, and such a deal would let it concentrate on stuff that it actually does better.

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News You Could Do Without

News You Could Do Without

by Mike Masnick


Filed Under:
ads, search ads

Companies:
google, microsoft, yahoo



And Just Like That... Neither Yahoo Nor Google Really That Motivated To Complete A Search Ad Deal

from the after-sobering-up... dept

Last month Yahoo did what it had previously insisted it wouldn't do: it began testing Google's ads in place of its own search ads. At the time, Yahoo insisted that it had nothing whatsoever to do with Microsoft's attempted takeover. It even claimed that the plans had been put in place well before Microsoft's unsolicited offer. Of course, now that Microsoft has withdrawn the offer -- citing the potential ad deal with Google as one of the main reasons for backing away -- suddenly it appears that neither Yahoo nor Google are all that keen on moving forward on a more advanced deal. Funny how that works.

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