(Mis)Uses of Technology

(Mis)Uses of Technology

by Mike Masnick


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airplanes, in-flight voice, mobile phones



EU About Ready To Allow Phone Calls While Flying

from the let-the-airlines-decide dept

While the US government has basically decided not to allow mobile phone calls from airplanes due to complaints from people worried about sitting next to people who are too chatty, the EU seems to be taking a more reasonable approach. Recognizing that the technology problems with calling from airplanes have basically been solved, the EU is ready to let airlines decide for themselves how they want to handle the issue. In other words, rather than having the government decree that people shouldn't suffer sitting next to half a conversation, why not let the market decide? If people are really annoyed by it, then airlines can simply advertise themselves as "mobile-phone free" or set up "mobile-phone free" sections.

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  1. Oct 19th, 2007 @ 12:12am

    "let airlines decide for themselves"... riiiiight.

    by Eric the Red

    Let me tell you brother, if you say 'basically' as much in real life as you did in this post and I ever find myself next to you on the plane while you're chatting, you'll be testing just how strong the vacuum suction in airplane toilets is... with your face.

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  2. Oct 19th, 2007 @ 12:20am

    Compromise with TEXT

    by Michael Long

    Allow SMS/text messaging only. No voice. Then we can have peace and quiet, and corporate business bozos who're afraid to be out of touch for an hour or so can still communicate with their underlings with their crackberries.

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  3. Oct 19th, 2007 @ 12:52am

    I'm in for a seating arrangement - those who prefer usage of mobile phones will be in one section. The chatty ones should have a special place - outside. Open air, al fresco, chatting on cloud nine on an aeroplane's wings. If it's long haul flight, they should be tied to a parachute, eject. :)

    Seriously, I welcome this.

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  4. Oct 19th, 2007 @ 12:55am

    I'm in for a seating arrangement - those who prefer usage of mobile phones will be in one section. The chatty ones should have a special place - outside. Open air, al fresco, chatting on cloud nine on an aeroplane's wings. If it's long haul flight, they should be tied to a parachute, eject. :)

    Seriously, I welcome this.

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  5. Oct 19th, 2007 @ 1:08am

    Pay for the Privilege of not sitting next to them

    by Ralph Jung

    Any comfort aspect that is currently part of flying can be turned into a money opportunity: it has already started with charging for luggage (per suitcase), headphones, meals etc. In addition to charging horrendous prices for mobile phone usage, I could imagine certain airlines to also start charging for the privilege of sitting in a mobile-free "Quiet Zone" (maybe also kid-free?), as some of them are already doing with their seat reservations. For instance, Aer Lingus charges €3 to €15 for reserving certain seats.

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  6. Oct 19th, 2007 @ 3:38am
    by This isn't my name.

    As long as the airlines also change their policies to allow me to comment on and generally mock the conversations I hear over phones without being kicked off the flight/blacklisted, I don't really care.

    Laughing loudly at someone's phone conversation generally gets them to be quiet. Either that, or gets you stabbed. I'm willing to run the risk.

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  7. Oct 19th, 2007 @ 3:47am
    by Devil's Advocate

    "why not let the market decide"

    Becasue that worked so well worldwide with regards to smoking?
    What we've learned from that little exercise in free market mentality is that the people suffering from second hand smoking evantually come to terms with the fact that everywhere they go they will find themselves next to smokers and the few places that decided to advertise being "smoke free" discovered just how good to business that is.
    It wasn't until it became against the law in some countries that people stopped smoking - and even then there are plenty of countries where it's illegal but nobody cares.

    I'm having enough fun sitting next to someone on the train who's chatting away on the phone (while I'm clearly trying to sleep). On a 12 hour trans-atlantic flight? No way.

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  8. Oct 19th, 2007 @ 3:58am

    Re:

    by matt

    umm? Just because people smoke doesn't mean its everywhere. Just because people use a cell phone on an airplane doesn't mean every time you ask someone not to they're just going to do it anyway.

    Also, I imagine business class using cellphones would be more likely than the casual person .

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  9. Oct 19th, 2007 @ 4:55am

    Let the Airline Passengers decide

    by Ferin

    Let's just sit all the cell phone users in the emergency exit rows. If they get annoying we can vote them off.

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  10. Oct 19th, 2007 @ 5:07am
    by Anonymous Coward

    Bad, Bad idea. The less said the better.

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  11. Oct 19th, 2007 @ 5:19am

    you're all too violent

    so you think talking on a cellphone its un-acceptable, but directing all the described violence is okay.

    next time i sit near one of you sweat smelling americans i'll ask if the fat twat can be thrown out of the window.

    you're welcome to attack me too. i'll make sure you wont fly again soon.

    good luck laughing at my conversations: i'll be disgusted/amused by how ugly, fat and smelly your whole family is.

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  12. Oct 19th, 2007 @ 5:35am

    Re: "let airlines decide for themselves"... riiiii

    by Danny

    You think he's bad with the word 'basically'? Wait til you see his next post about the recording industry and count how often he uses 'content' and 'vaule'.

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  13. Oct 19th, 2007 @ 6:36am
    by Anonymous Coward

    God bless America and its fascism! We order you not to like hearing only half of a conversation! The land of the free indeed.

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  14. Oct 19th, 2007 @ 6:40am

    Re: "let airlines decide for themselves"... riiiii

    by Anon

    Basically using the word twice is basically as bad as basically using any word twice on basically any paragraph of text.

    /Or you could discuss the topic, whichever!

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  15. Oct 19th, 2007 @ 6:53am

    Re: "let airlines decide for themselves"... riiiii

    by Freedom of speech???

    "Let me tell you brother, if you say 'basically' as much in real life as you did in this post and I ever find myself next to you on the plane while you're chatting, you'll be testing just how strong the vacuum suction in airplane toilets is... with your face." Yeah, why not just advertise yourself as "Tech-dirt free". F-ing flamer.

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  16. Oct 19th, 2007 @ 8:23am
    by B

    I'm sure the ban on mobile phones has nothing at all to do with the fact that airlines make money off of charging people to use the on board phones.

    Nope. Not at all. (Note the sarcasm)

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  17. Oct 19th, 2007 @ 8:39am

    Re: "let airlines decide for themselves"... riiiii

    by Chuck Norris' Enemy (deceased)

    Lets talk about your sentence.
    7 uses of you (or a variation)
    Plus, you used 'basically' once in your single sentence. Mike used it twice in three sentences. Your usage of basically is actually higher.

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  18. Oct 19th, 2007 @ 8:41am

    Re: Re: "let airlines decide for themselves"... ri

    by Chuck Norris' Enemy (deceased)

    He never used 'vaule'.

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  19. Oct 19th, 2007 @ 9:59am

    Re:

    by Ram

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  20. Oct 19th, 2007 @ 10:00am

    Re: Let the airlines

    by Ram

    I already hear the idiots all around me talking - on airplanes and otherwise. I'm more interested in curbing the volume of conversations on land, sea and in the air than I am in filtering out conversations that I only hear half of.

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  21. Oct 19th, 2007 @ 10:58am

    Re: you're all too violent

    by Chronno S. Trigger

    I was going to say the same thing. People don't want cell phones on planes so bad that they threaten to forcefully eject them at altitude, but the fat guy that takes up 1 1/2 seats is OK. or a crying baby, jabbering loon, guy with personal entertainment system way to loud. If you want full comfort in a plain then get your own.

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  22. Oct 19th, 2007 @ 2:15pm

    Re: Re: Re: "let airlines decide for themselves"..

    by Danny

    He has indeed not used 'value' in this post (which I clearly said) but if you're implying that Mike never uses 'value' in his post then I have to accuse you of not reading the same posts everyone else is.

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  23. Oct 19th, 2007 @ 2:37pm

    Re: Re: Just Because

    by Squidly

    "Just because people smoke doesn't mean its everywhere. Just because people use a cell phone on an airplane doesn't mean every time you ask someone not to they're just going to do it anyway."

    Just because the low end of the gene pool doesn't know how to "keep their pants zipped" and control their spawn on airplanes doesnt' mean I should be subject to some brat kicking my seat and screaming the whole way either. But apparently, that's legal (d@mmit!).

    Duct Tape people...Duct Tape.

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  24. Oct 19th, 2007 @ 2:41pm

    Re: Re: "let airlines decide for themselves"... ri

    by Squidly

    "Basically using the word twice is basically as bad as basically using any word twice on basically any paragraph of text."

    D@mmit! Someone beat me to it!! ;-)

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  25. Oct 19th, 2007 @ 2:49pm

    Re: Ban on phones...

    by Squidly

    I remember when you could wear your headphones and listen to your CD player from the time you walked onto the plane to the time you walked off the plane.

    Amazingly (sarcasm here) that didn't bring the plane down either.

    Although now most airlines no longer say that it will "interfere" with communications and navigation equipment - they say something about it being for our safety. In all likelihood it's just a CYA maneuver by the airlines to ensure the would-be fulltime headphone wearer hears all safety briefings and can no longer sue the airlines for "damages" (whatever that might be). My only problem with that argument (if it were true) is...What about the deaf?

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  26. Oct 20th, 2007 @ 4:42am

    Ban the phoones?

    by Joe Blow

    Mobile phones on planes, are these people on crack?

    I bet Al-Qaeda, cant wait to their mobiles on planes.

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  27. Oct 21st, 2007 @ 9:29pm

    Chatty Teenagers...?

    by Frequent Flyer

    I think the chatty teenagers are going to be the worst... My favorite flights are the ones where its quiet as a 2nd floor library, and under 3 hours. Just enough time to get some work done, or take a nap. I hate being stuck to anybody who likes to chat. Now, there's gonna be more resources to having somebody to talk to the whole time. Maybe I'll switch to the train...

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