Having used Spotify a bit, I can definitely see how some people think it could potentially replace iTunes completely. It basically acts like an iTunes that has access to millions of songs at no additional cost (and, yes, it's all licensed and legal). The songs are streamed, but you almost never notice it. It really does feel just like iTunes, while also having "Pandora-like" features for creating specialized stations or sharing others' playlists. Unfortunately, it's only available in the UK for now, though the rumor is it will be available in the US before the end of the year. However, where things could get really impressive is with Spotify's mobile app. For a few months, there's been a YouTube video of Spotify Mobile on Android:
The demo highlights the fact that you can sync any playlist for "offline" play, solving the biggest question about weak mobile signals on the go, or how you use it on a plane or somewhere without wireless access. With offline syncing, it's basically everything that an iPod can do -- with access to 6 million songs without having to pay for each individual song. But, of course, Android is still a limited platform. The big fish these days is the iPhone App Store, and Spotify has now submitted an iPhone app for approval, which raises all sorts of questions. With Apple's history of rather arbitrary rejections -- including ones for things Apple has deemed "competitive" -- will it block Spotify as a rather direct competitor to iTunes? That would be very unfortunate, and again demonstrate the risk of a closed platform.
That said, the initial reviews of the iPhone app seem quite strong. Eliot Van Buskirk at Wired loves the syncing feature, and warns that "you'd have to pry it out of my cold, dead iPhone before I'll delete it from my phone." Meanwhile Music Ally points out that Spotify has uploaded a video of the iPhone app as well:
It really does look pretty slick. So now the ball's in Apple's court. I have no idea if Spotify can survive as a business (and I suspect that the royalty rates the music industry wants will make that difficult), but it is great to see more innovation in the space. Now we get to see how Apple feels about that sort of innovation.
Apple won't do it because Iphones have issues of battery life. They can't allow things like spotify to run full time because the battery on the phone would die within a few hours. It's the price you pay for really nice packaging.
If it's available for android, Apple will follow suit
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They can't afford not to. Apple makes its money from selling phones, not from iTunes Store. And they can't afford to have their phone appear crippled next to the competition.
Ha! That is 100% correct. And at AC that replied. Sarcasm detector fail. I know it is hard to read sarcasm but on the internet it is best to read everything as sarcasm. You will get the joke more often than not that way.
It will be interesting. Normally Apple would have shot this down immediately. They've shot down others for FAR LESS. If this gets by then it shows that Android is helping the market evolve by breaking down these closed gardens. If Apple doesn't let it through it shows Android is the more flexible and diverse platform.
Are you just stupid? Apple makes its money from both selling phones and iTunes. While ITMS was made profitable by the advent of the iPod, ITMS is far more profitable than selling the phones. Remember that ITMS did multiple billions of dollars worth of sales last year, and Apple gets a non-trivial cut of that revenue, AND operating costs are fairly low.
I don't know if Apple will block the app or not, seeing as Pandora made it through the certification process, but this has lots more access, and you can choose what song you want to listen to. I have to think they will block it for some BS reason.
If a US user goes to spotify.com, you'll be greeted by the news that there are no licensing agreements in the US. This is not, of course, a surprise... I'm sure the badass RIAA woul do its damnest to shut Spotify down in an instant. Gotta love poli.tica;ly-connected, deep pocket organizations like that!
They'll deny it citing the program will give access to adult content, like they did with the NIN app. I'm sure that some of those songs have bad language in them. You can't argue against the protecting the children BS.
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Deja Vu
Kind of reminds me of another company that bundled browser software with its operating system and got a slap on the wrist...
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Apple won't do it because Iphones have issues of battery life. They can't allow things like spotify to run full time because the battery on the phone would die within a few hours. It's the price you pay for really nice packaging.
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So they should get the same slap on the wrist, right?
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If it's available for android, Apple will follow suit
They can't afford not to. Apple makes its money from selling phones, not from iTunes Store. And they can't afford to have their phone appear crippled next to the competition.
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This argument makes no sense at all. They already have a music play on the phone. Why would this one be any different?
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Ha! That is 100% correct. And at AC that replied. Sarcasm detector fail. I know it is hard to read sarcasm but on the internet it is best to read everything as sarcasm. You will get the joke more often than not that way.
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Playing music doesn't require screen on, net connection.
But you knew that ;)
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Please dont remind us of The Game.
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It will be interesting. Normally Apple would have shot this down immediately. They've shot down others for FAR LESS. If this gets by then it shows that Android is helping the market evolve by breaking down these closed gardens. If Apple doesn't let it through it shows Android is the more flexible and diverse platform.
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Re: If it's available for android, Apple will follow suit
Are you just stupid? Apple makes its money from both selling phones and iTunes. While ITMS was made profitable by the advent of the iPod, ITMS is far more profitable than selling the phones. Remember that ITMS did multiple billions of dollars worth of sales last year, and Apple gets a non-trivial cut of that revenue, AND operating costs are fairly low.
I don't know if Apple will block the app or not, seeing as Pandora made it through the certification process, but this has lots more access, and you can choose what song you want to listen to. I have to think they will block it for some BS reason.
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No US Licensing Agreements... of course
If a US user goes to spotify.com, you'll be greeted by the news that there are no licensing agreements in the US. This is not, of course, a surprise... I'm sure the badass RIAA woul do its damnest to shut Spotify down in an instant. Gotta love poli.tica;ly-connected, deep pocket organizations like that!
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Eh, They'll block it.
They'll deny it citing the program will give access to adult content, like they did with the NIN app. I'm sure that some of those songs have bad language in them. You can't argue against the protecting the children BS.
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Apple should allow the app as Spotify is (currently) only UK based - I think. iTunes is pretty much global.
Apple can release their own version of Spotify through iTunes should it suit them later on.
As mentioned by the post above Spotify needs to be OKed by the RIAA among others in the US so I don't see it being launched there as a given.
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Tha argument still doesn't make sense. LastFM is on the store, and happily drains batteries the world over.
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seems like a sarcasm-detector false positive given ACs reply to ACs reply
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