Popular Mechanics had a pretty good Write-Up of the debacle in Oregon back in January.
(Full Disclosure: I live in Oregon) Of course I thought it was a bad idea then too.
"Nothing dies harder than a bad idea."
– Julia Cameron
Talk about creating artificial scarcity: "It's real popular, so you have to order now or there won't be any more."
From The Techdirt CwF+RtB Page "We're doing this a little differently this time -- we'll be taking orders for 2 weeks ONLY. Orders close at Midnight, Monday, November 16th. After that, we'll print and ship the t-shirts. So please get your order in soon so we can start planning. Orders should ship around the first week of December."
It is called a marketing decision. That is the point of the whole CwF+RtB experiment, is it not?
Make plaintiff pay ALL the legal bills (BOTH his and defendant's), until the judgment is made. Then, if the defendant loses the case, he reimburses the plaintiff. If he wins, well, tough luck.
I suppose it is a good idea in the case we are discussing but what about when the tables are turned? What if a small innovate company with little to no capital comes up with a really good idea, then 'Hugeandenormous Inc.' comes along and steals the idea. (Ostensibly what software patents are supposed to protect against.) Now I happen to agree that in most cases IP is just BS but the idea you are proposing would make it all but impossible (not that it is much better now) for the little guy to fight. Or did I miss something?
I still think the idea of Open Source code development is going to be essential to the success of e-voting, and I also believe that in our modern connected society electronic vote collection is going to be absolutely necessary. I have not previously considered the idea of “Paid” voting that was mentioned in the previous post, but some type of confirmation would be a good security feature to prevent data tampering. I guess that is why I like Open Source so much, you don't have to depend on a small group of developers to brainstorm the possibilities to test against.
"The "legitimate reasons" thing is the standard worn excuse used by torrent people (there are legit reasons to use P2P) and music downloaders (we are just testings, it's our backup, the dog ate my original copy). In the end, it's a slack response to an obviously attempt to get something for nothing."
"No. It is not, because most states regulate lockpick manufacture, sale, and use, regardless of the fact that they can be used for lawful means"
Really? http://www.lmgtfy.com/?q=Lockpick
Click on the 'Shopping' link or go to the Shopping results, Oh look, Dozens of Lock Picks available on the Internet. Many under $25
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"Sorry, but fail.
I would suspect that the software in the cable modem is copyright. Decoding and or modifying it would be a DMCA quality violation. Distributing it, well... you know. "
Oh look they broke out the DMCA
The MPAA/RIAA's (etc) Favorite Toy
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What Part of 'Physical (Real) Property' ≠ 'Intellectual Property' (i.e. Digital Content) do people not understand? Most of the comments I have seen here that disagree with Mike have missed this point completely.
As Above:
"By George Bernard Shaw
If you have an apple and I have an apple and we exchange these apples then you and I will still each have one apple, But if you have an idea and I have an idea and we exchange these ideas, then each of us will have two ideas."
Just out of curiosity where is the endpoint of your VPN? All the website should see is the client IP (in the case if a VPN the endpoint), not that there is a VPN feeding it. So if you are coming out of the US it should never know the difference.
"Rather than spending millions of dollars fighting to either enforce silly patents, or defend themselves against silly patent suits, here's a funny idea: let's let companies fight these things out in the marketplace. You know, that place where capitalism determines who wins, and consumers benefit. As opposed to the courtroom, where judges (and occasionally the laws) determine who wins, and only lawyers benefit."
If only it were True....
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"He who builds a better mousetrap these days runs into material shortages, patent-infringement suits, work stoppages, collusive bidding, discount discrimination--and taxes."
H. E. Martz
ROFL (as BearGriz72)
Ha Ha Ha HA Ha
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Popular Mechanics had a pretty good Write-Up of the debacle in Oregon back in January.
(Full Disclosure: I live in Oregon) Of course I thought it was a bad idea then too.
Re: A/C (as BearGriz72)
Getting There (as BearGriz72)
Now if we could get the "I can take you notebook for as long as I want"ť out of Notebook Searches at the Border
Mandatory Silly Comment (as BearGriz72)
I'm on the Edge of my seat.
Re: Re: Re: Can't you make more? (as BearGriz72)
BTW (as BearGriz72)
I ordered mine today
w00t w00t!
Even with my "perpetually empty bank account".
Sorry Esahc
Re: Can't you make more? (as BearGriz72)
"We're doing this a little differently this time -- we'll be taking orders for 2 weeks ONLY. Orders close at Midnight, Monday, November 16th. After that, we'll print and ship the t-shirts. So please get your order in soon so we can start planning. Orders should ship around the first week of December."
It is called a marketing decision. That is the point of the whole CwF+RtB experiment, is it not?
Encryption Anyone (as BearGriz72)
I know it has been said repeatedly here, but it is just another reason why more people will turn to Encryption, VPN, & Anonymizing Services.
Re: Simple rule... (as BearGriz72)
I suppose it is a good idea in the case we are discussing but what about when the tables are turned? What if a small innovate company with little to no capital comes up with a really good idea, then 'Hugeandenormous Inc.' comes along and steals the idea. (Ostensibly what software patents are supposed to protect against.) Now I happen to agree that in most cases IP is just BS but the idea you are proposing would make it all but impossible (not that it is much better now) for the little guy to fight. Or did I miss something?
Open Source Anyone? (as BearGriz72)
I still think the idea of Open Source code development is going to be essential to the success of e-voting, and I also believe that in our modern connected society electronic vote collection is going to be absolutely necessary. I have not previously considered the idea of “Paid” voting that was mentioned in the previous post, but some type of confirmation would be a good security feature to prevent data tampering. I guess that is why I like Open Source so much, you don't have to depend on a small group of developers to brainstorm the possibilities to test against.
Bad Idea (as BearGriz72)
AT&T - Welcome to the world of The Streisand effect
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: AC (as BearGriz72)
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Really?
http://www.lmgtfy.com/?q=Lockpick
Click on the 'Shopping' link or go to the Shopping results, Oh look, Dozens of Lock Picks available on the Internet. Many under $25
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Oh look they broke out the DMCA
The MPAA/RIAA's (etc) Favorite Toy
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Just WOW!
Re: Re: (as BearGriz72)
P.S. If funds permit I'm getting the DMCA Takedown shirt this weekend.
Ditto! I am SO there.
'Physical (Real) Property' ≠ 'Intellectual Property' (as BearGriz72)
What Part of 'Physical (Real) Property' ≠ 'Intellectual Property' (i.e. Digital Content) do people not understand? Most of the comments I have seen here that disagree with Mike have missed this point completely.
As Above:
"By George Bernard Shaw
If you have an apple and I have an apple and we exchange these apples then you and I will still each have one apple, But if you have an idea and I have an idea and we exchange these ideas, then each of us will have two ideas."
Get a grip people
VPN (as BearGriz72)
Just out of curiosity where is the endpoint of your VPN? All the website should see is the client IP (in the case if a VPN the endpoint), not that there is a VPN feeding it. So if you are coming out of the US it should never know the difference.
Not Sure I Would Trust It (as BearGriz72)
Saw this a while back…
http://broadband-nation.blogspot.com/2008/10/real-problems-with-magic-jack-is-majic.html
It is just too much of a privacy issue for me.
Re: (as BearGriz72)
"Rather than spending millions of dollars fighting to either enforce silly patents, or defend themselves against silly patent suits, here's a funny idea: let's let companies fight these things out in the marketplace. You know, that place where capitalism determines who wins, and consumers benefit. As opposed to the courtroom, where judges (and occasionally the laws) determine who wins, and only lawyers benefit."
If only it were True....
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"He who builds a better mousetrap these days runs into material shortages, patent-infringement suits, work stoppages, collusive bidding, discount discrimination--and taxes."
H. E. Martz