Oh yeah, that's the way to help the faceless people who don't get credit... Give more power to the people (read corporations) that decide not to give them money or credit... Absolutely, the government should step in and protect the status quo, because if they do everyone who's not getting paid right now will magically get a paycheck!!! Jersey Girl, get off Garth's nuts. He's not interested in anyone but himself, and this is proof. If he really wanted to help the little guys in the industry, he'd be lobbying against the RIAA, so that those little guys could choose to work for any artist they wanted, and could then limit themselves to working for only those who thanked them appropriately, be that via recognition or payment. Instead, they're forced to sign contracts or sign over the rights to their work, because the only other option is to not do what they love. Think about the ACTUAL ACTIONS here, not just the gift wrapped, 'heart felt', statement that Garth Brooks had someone else write up for him, so that people like you wouldn't think he really is the ass hat that he is.
This is just too good. I got really heated reading what this A-hole said, and luckily Mike already said half of what I was thinking. Everything else I saw in the comments already, but it just can't be said too much.
"I think that'd be more than fair to stand up and say, 'Look, you've ignored us, because there's 50,000 of us and 300 million voters."
- The government is elected by those 300 million voters to LOOK AFTER THE VOTERS, NOT CORPORATIONS AND MONEY HUNGRY ASS HATS LIKE YOU GARTH BROOKS!!! Treat your fans like people, and not paychecks that you think you are entitled to because someone thought you were better than the next guy. Then this wouldn't be a problem. The real issue isn't that you're not protected, it's that other corps/industries are protected so much. This is a free market economy (is supposed to be anyway...) and that means the CONSUMERS rule supreme, not you, and not the government. It was designed that way for a reason.
"You've ignored us, and now to show you, we would like to just simply stop for a day,' and see how dry this world gets."
- Please Garth Brooks, stop not just for a day, but STOP FOREVER! I promise that for every greedy moron like yourself, there are 10 other aspiring musicians waiting for you to go away so they can get some attention. Pull your music from the radio, tell your friends to pull theirs, and since no one who's music is on the radio will need such absurd fees for promoting them, the whole industry gets cheaper, and we'll see better radio stations. We'll also see better music, because instead of working for a paycheck, the musicians will be working for the reason music began - to try and make good music. Fans won't have to listen to the likes of Soulja Boy, who can only be around because he paid someone (TERRIBLE MUSIC, yet he's on the radio all the damn time?!?!?!?!) because artists will be competing based on their quality, not who's nargle they snargled...
If you get the CD's from someone else, you need to photocopy/fax the cd cover, with the key on it, to Steam, and they'll release the lock or whatever and let you re-associate the key with a new account. Similar to if you lost your password and created a new steam account and wanted your discs to work again... Long process, but works.
Yes!! Blame Craigslist today, shut them down!! Then tomorrow, we'll blame Craigslist's replacement, and shut them down! And the day after that, we'll tackle the next replacement...
You said it yourself, Law enforcement has limited tools, and criminals have virtually unlimited tools. Why take away one of the tools law enforcement can use (The Sheriff admits to USING craigslist to STOP some crime from happening...)??
Also, craigslist doesn't encourage any illegal activity, they don't have advertisements saying "Use our site to sell sex!" In fact, I've never seen an advertisement for Craigslist, and I know that their terms explicitly state that people who use the site should NOT be doing so for illegal purposes... Perhaps, Concerned, you should heed your own advice.
"And, of course, radio and television news (not the subject here, but someone will invariably bring it up) is advertising-supported, which costs consumer time and annoyance."
Internet news is also supported by advertising, and consumers aren't running away screaming "I'd rather pay $10 a month than see these ads!!" So essentially, they're trying to tell news companies that ads throughout their news is a fair price to pay. Of course, some will do it more gracefully than others, and they'll win the crowd, but that's how it works out here in the real world.
Isn't that exactly what we want????? Only talented musicians earn money, not the no talent hacks with marketability that big name labels force onto us. If this is really what it takes to improve the quality of music, it's a win-win situation....people pay for good music, and you have to be a good musician to get paid.
You make many very good points here, regularly. But the thing that won me over? The fact that it took you mere minutes to think of the idea to have your girlfriend toss jelly donuts on your erect wang while you're watching Sunday NFL. Best idea ever...
Girlfriend playing with my boner: check.
Jelly Donuts: check.
Sunday NFL: check.
"By grouping all things "music related" into a single bucket, you can imply that music is making more money, but the reality is that in most areas of the music industry, sales are way down and dropping"
If you pulled your head out of whatever ass it's in, be it yours or the RIAA's, you'd have noticed that Mike said the money is shifting within 'the industry'. 'The industry' encompasses all things "music related," so it is appropriate to group them together, especially to show that 'the industry' is not losing money like they would have you believe. The reason sales in certain areas of 'the industry' are way down and dropping, is a sign of a market SHIFT (there's that word again, odd...). The market (consumers, in case you didn't know) are speaking up to tell 'the industry' that they don't want to buy what 'the industry' is selling anymore, in the only way they can, by not buying it. Free market capitalism is trying to do what it's supposed to do here, but 'the industry' fears the change that's coming, and are trying to cling to the old market as long as they can.
That's just a really dumb comment. For starters, the public didn't ask for the "affordable" home loans you mention, the banking industry lobbied the government to lighten up the regulations so that they could lend more money and, this is the important part, make more profit. There was no public outcry for higher homeowner percentages, that was government and lobbyists. It's quite clear that not everyone is jumping at "free" healthcare, or else we'd have it already, and I'll bet that if the "free" car you offer was a GM or Ford, the majority of people would turn it down and go get a good car.
Mob rule is a bad idea in terms of running the country, yes, but letting the markets rule in a 'free' market capitalist economy IS the answer, not letting corporate giants and government control everything...
That's a pretty ignorant comment, and illustrates exactly how little you know about this technology.
The clients are configurable, meaning if you get a good one (and there are plenty to choose from) you'll be able to set a limit on how much bandwidth you use seeding (throwing data at everyone else) and even how many people you seed to (so you can only throw data to one person, and not everyone).
If you'll do your part, by doing some research about the ACTUAL benefits, and stop spreading your misinformed "faults" of the protocol, you'll be able to help us let the industry in on the secret that it's not going away, and should not be blocked, therefore eliminating all of your problems.
And FYI - those problems will be long resolved before the day that it's the only way to get files, so really, you should be excited for that day, not dreading it.
You're not looking at the whole picture. No doubt you've only soaked in what the company wide email told you to soak in, but out here in the real world there's more to it than that.
It'd be great if it really was simply all the things I can get with my paid TV subscription will also be offered online, but it's not just that. Your filthy company is teaming up with another filthy company to use their already established, massive presence in the industry to thwart newcomers before they even get to come. I pay far too much for my cable television from your filthy company, because it's that or nothing, and I frequently work from home, so I needed something faster than DSL. Hulu wouldn't have to be free, I think it's awesome that it is, but if it had ALL the shows I wanted to watch, I'd be more than happy to pay for a subscription, especially if it were cheaper than my current cable bill...
It's not that we want everything for free, Mr. DrinksTooMuchCorporateKoolAid, it's just that we don't want to be forced into something we don't want (in this case, paying Comcast)...
Not quite... The small companies win, and their prize is that they get to then become a big company. Then another small company will kick their ass, and thus continues the cycle that free market capitalism is designed for.
And Dark Helmet, being strongly pro-small business shouldn't keep your brain from processing facts correctly... Intuit started out a small company, and was very triumphant, which led to those 2008 figures you site. There's no real way you could call them a small company today, but if you read the post, you'd see that's not what Mike is trying to say.
You don't need to wait for the changeover to test. The DTV channels are being broadcast already, so you're really not doing yourself any favors by sitting on your thumbs and waiting...
The real point is, there have been a few doing all the work for a very long time now, and there's never been complaints about freeloaders until recently. I've never heard of Linus complaining about my freeloading on his Linux kernel.... Nobody will dispute that it happens a lot, or that sometimes the core group gets tired of doing it and stops. But what happens in the real world, is that when the group stops, there's usually another group willing to step in and pick up where they left off (sometimes called 'forking' in the software world).
What I think is really happening, is that open source is becoming more popular. Popular to more than just those who understand that working for open source doesn't necessarily translate into big pay days, and they're starting to feel all "Woe is me, I've chosen to do this work but I'm not happy with the conditions, so I'll cry about it instead of change my situation."
Not that you're wrong, as I agree with you and Mike; I think the courts got it right as well, but even with no actual reporters, I don't see why there'd be hundreds or thousands of bloggers in there... Isn't the beauty of working on the internet the fact that ONE single person could be in there taking pictures, and then the blogs just LINK to them when they're available?? I think you're trying to make a problem where there isn't one, and I think you're reaching a little bit too far...
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Re: Re: (as CommonSense)
Mad wrong....
Re: Re: On funny... (as CommonSense)
American's have a different sense of humor than Canadian's, and if they'd made more jokes it couldn't be taken seriously.
At least that's how I understood it.
Re: Re: Too Good (as CommonSense)
Oh yeah, that's the way to help the faceless people who don't get credit... Give more power to the people (read corporations) that decide not to give them money or credit... Absolutely, the government should step in and protect the status quo, because if they do everyone who's not getting paid right now will magically get a paycheck!!! Jersey Girl, get off Garth's nuts. He's not interested in anyone but himself, and this is proof. If he really wanted to help the little guys in the industry, he'd be lobbying against the RIAA, so that those little guys could choose to work for any artist they wanted, and could then limit themselves to working for only those who thanked them appropriately, be that via recognition or payment. Instead, they're forced to sign contracts or sign over the rights to their work, because the only other option is to not do what they love. Think about the ACTUAL ACTIONS here, not just the gift wrapped, 'heart felt', statement that Garth Brooks had someone else write up for him, so that people like you wouldn't think he really is the ass hat that he is.
Too Good (as CommonSense)
This is just too good. I got really heated reading what this A-hole said, and luckily Mike already said half of what I was thinking. Everything else I saw in the comments already, but it just can't be said too much.
"I think that'd be more than fair to stand up and say, 'Look, you've ignored us, because there's 50,000 of us and 300 million voters."
- The government is elected by those 300 million voters to LOOK AFTER THE VOTERS, NOT CORPORATIONS AND MONEY HUNGRY ASS HATS LIKE YOU GARTH BROOKS!!! Treat your fans like people, and not paychecks that you think you are entitled to because someone thought you were better than the next guy. Then this wouldn't be a problem. The real issue isn't that you're not protected, it's that other corps/industries are protected so much. This is a free market economy (is supposed to be anyway...) and that means the CONSUMERS rule supreme, not you, and not the government. It was designed that way for a reason.
"You've ignored us, and now to show you, we would like to just simply stop for a day,' and see how dry this world gets."
- Please Garth Brooks, stop not just for a day, but STOP FOREVER! I promise that for every greedy moron like yourself, there are 10 other aspiring musicians waiting for you to go away so they can get some attention. Pull your music from the radio, tell your friends to pull theirs, and since no one who's music is on the radio will need such absurd fees for promoting them, the whole industry gets cheaper, and we'll see better radio stations. We'll also see better music, because instead of working for a paycheck, the musicians will be working for the reason music began - to try and make good music. Fans won't have to listen to the likes of Soulja Boy, who can only be around because he paid someone (TERRIBLE MUSIC, yet he's on the radio all the damn time?!?!?!?!) because artists will be competing based on their quality, not who's nargle they snargled...
Re: Re: (as CommonSense)
If you get the CD's from someone else, you need to photocopy/fax the cd cover, with the key on it, to Steam, and they'll release the lock or whatever and let you re-associate the key with a new account. Similar to if you lost your password and created a new steam account and wanted your discs to work again... Long process, but works.
Re: Re: Dumb Pigs (as CommonSense)
Yes!! Blame Craigslist today, shut them down!! Then tomorrow, we'll blame Craigslist's replacement, and shut them down! And the day after that, we'll tackle the next replacement...
You said it yourself, Law enforcement has limited tools, and criminals have virtually unlimited tools. Why take away one of the tools law enforcement can use (The Sheriff admits to USING craigslist to STOP some crime from happening...)??
Also, craigslist doesn't encourage any illegal activity, they don't have advertisements saying "Use our site to sell sex!" In fact, I've never seen an advertisement for Craigslist, and I know that their terms explicitly state that people who use the site should NOT be doing so for illegal purposes... Perhaps, Concerned, you should heed your own advice.
Re: Re: Re: The fatal flaw (as CommonSense)
"And, of course, radio and television news (not the subject here, but someone will invariably bring it up) is advertising-supported, which costs consumer time and annoyance."
Internet news is also supported by advertising, and consumers aren't running away screaming "I'd rather pay $10 a month than see these ads!!" So essentially, they're trying to tell news companies that ads throughout their news is a fair price to pay. Of course, some will do it more gracefully than others, and they'll win the crowd, but that's how it works out here in the real world.
Re: Masnick's Law, revisted. (as CommonSense)
Isn't that exactly what we want????? Only talented musicians earn money, not the no talent hacks with marketability that big name labels force onto us. If this is really what it takes to improve the quality of music, it's a win-win situation....people pay for good music, and you have to be a good musician to get paid.
Re: Re: Re: You know what? Do it. (as CommonSense)
You make many very good points here, regularly. But the thing that won me over? The fact that it took you mere minutes to think of the idea to have your girlfriend toss jelly donuts on your erect wang while you're watching Sunday NFL. Best idea ever...
Girlfriend playing with my boner: check.
Jelly Donuts: check.
Sunday NFL: check.
Re: Time to Patent (as CommonSense)
The World Will Look Up and Shout "Save Us!"
And I'll whisper... "No."
That literally made me laugh out loud. Thank you.
Re: (as CommonSense)
"By grouping all things "music related" into a single bucket, you can imply that music is making more money, but the reality is that in most areas of the music industry, sales are way down and dropping"
If you pulled your head out of whatever ass it's in, be it yours or the RIAA's, you'd have noticed that Mike said the money is shifting within 'the industry'. 'The industry' encompasses all things "music related," so it is appropriate to group them together, especially to show that 'the industry' is not losing money like they would have you believe. The reason sales in certain areas of 'the industry' are way down and dropping, is a sign of a market SHIFT (there's that word again, odd...). The market (consumers, in case you didn't know) are speaking up to tell 'the industry' that they don't want to buy what 'the industry' is selling anymore, in the only way they can, by not buying it. Free market capitalism is trying to do what it's supposed to do here, but 'the industry' fears the change that's coming, and are trying to cling to the old market as long as they can.
Re: Cant he public be heard... (as CommonSense)
That's just a really dumb comment. For starters, the public didn't ask for the "affordable" home loans you mention, the banking industry lobbied the government to lighten up the regulations so that they could lend more money and, this is the important part, make more profit. There was no public outcry for higher homeowner percentages, that was government and lobbyists. It's quite clear that not everyone is jumping at "free" healthcare, or else we'd have it already, and I'll bet that if the "free" car you offer was a GM or Ford, the majority of people would turn it down and go get a good car.
Mob rule is a bad idea in terms of running the country, yes, but letting the markets rule in a 'free' market capitalist economy IS the answer, not letting corporate giants and government control everything...
Re: BT is neat, but... (as CommonSense)
That's a pretty ignorant comment, and illustrates exactly how little you know about this technology.
The clients are configurable, meaning if you get a good one (and there are plenty to choose from) you'll be able to set a limit on how much bandwidth you use seeding (throwing data at everyone else) and even how many people you seed to (so you can only throw data to one person, and not everyone).
If you'll do your part, by doing some research about the ACTUAL benefits, and stop spreading your misinformed "faults" of the protocol, you'll be able to help us let the industry in on the secret that it's not going away, and should not be blocked, therefore eliminating all of your problems.
And FYI - those problems will be long resolved before the day that it's the only way to get files, so really, you should be excited for that day, not dreading it.
Re: *yawn* (as CommonSense)
You're not looking at the whole picture. No doubt you've only soaked in what the company wide email told you to soak in, but out here in the real world there's more to it than that.
It'd be great if it really was simply all the things I can get with my paid TV subscription will also be offered online, but it's not just that. Your filthy company is teaming up with another filthy company to use their already established, massive presence in the industry to thwart newcomers before they even get to come. I pay far too much for my cable television from your filthy company, because it's that or nothing, and I frequently work from home, so I needed something faster than DSL. Hulu wouldn't have to be free, I think it's awesome that it is, but if it had ALL the shows I wanted to watch, I'd be more than happy to pay for a subscription, especially if it were cheaper than my current cable bill...
It's not that we want everything for free, Mr. DrinksTooMuchCorporateKoolAid, it's just that we don't want to be forced into something we don't want (in this case, paying Comcast)...
Re: Success Relativity (as CommonSense)
Not quite... The small companies win, and their prize is that they get to then become a big company. Then another small company will kick their ass, and thus continues the cycle that free market capitalism is designed for.
And Dark Helmet, being strongly pro-small business shouldn't keep your brain from processing facts correctly... Intuit started out a small company, and was very triumphant, which led to those 2008 figures you site. There's no real way you could call them a small company today, but if you read the post, you'd see that's not what Mike is trying to say.
Re: Re: Survey (as CommonSense)
You don't need to wait for the changeover to test. The DTV channels are being broadcast already, so you're really not doing yourself any favors by sitting on your thumbs and waiting...
Re: (as CommonSense)
Judging by your comment, you're standing right next to him, since you basically said the same thing...
Sorry AC, but your attempt to insult failed miserably, and you appear to be poorly educated in reading comprehension.
Re: Already Crimes/Civil No No's (as CommonSense)
"With these positions already in place, what's the point of this bill?"
(re-) Election.
Re: (as CommonSense)
The real point is, there have been a few doing all the work for a very long time now, and there's never been complaints about freeloaders until recently. I've never heard of Linus complaining about my freeloading on his Linux kernel.... Nobody will dispute that it happens a lot, or that sometimes the core group gets tired of doing it and stops. But what happens in the real world, is that when the group stops, there's usually another group willing to step in and pick up where they left off (sometimes called 'forking' in the software world).
What I think is really happening, is that open source is becoming more popular. Popular to more than just those who understand that working for open source doesn't necessarily translate into big pay days, and they're starting to feel all "Woe is me, I've chosen to do this work but I'm not happy with the conditions, so I'll cry about it instead of change my situation."
Re: (as CommonSense)
Not that you're wrong, as I agree with you and Mike; I think the courts got it right as well, but even with no actual reporters, I don't see why there'd be hundreds or thousands of bloggers in there... Isn't the beauty of working on the internet the fact that ONE single person could be in there taking pictures, and then the blogs just LINK to them when they're available?? I think you're trying to make a problem where there isn't one, and I think you're reaching a little bit too far...