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by Karl Bode




Who'll Pay For C3PO's Social Security Benefits?

from the what-are-you-doing-dave dept

Despite the fact we can't create a robot that can navigate stairs without doing a face plant, there's apparently concern in some circles that robots may someday want the same rights afforded humans. A "speculative paper" released by the British government predicts that should robots eventually learn to reproduce, improve or think for themselves -- it's inevitable that they'll sue for equal rights. Once obtained, the robots would then drain government coffers, as "states will be obligated to provide full social benefits to them including income support, housing and possibly robo-healthcare to fix the machines over time," according to the report. Of course the very nature of a more efficient economy where robots comprise a significant portion of the labor force should hopefully mean an increase in the distribution of wealth, potentially offsetting the impact of having to pay the social security costs incurred by a legion of hard-working R2D2s. The paper admits we won't be worrying about any of this for at least another twenty years, assuming robots can first hurdle the monumental task of self-sustained bipedal movement sans fatality. Judging from existing robots, we've got a long way to go before sentient reproducing robots become societal burdens: the Japanese government this week honored its most innovative robot designs, which included a $3,454 robotic spoon, and a sensor wielding toy seal.

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    Dec 21st, 2006 @ 3:26pm
  • Robotic rights?!?

    this story is tongue-in-cheek, I take it. I mean, they're machines, manufactured, i.e. NOT Alive. Unless, of course, they were referring to Al Gore?

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    • Dec 21st, 2006 @ 3:31pm
    • Re: Robotic rights?!?

      by Anonymous Coward

      Al Gore. *snicker*

      I think anybody who wants robots reproducing should go watch a few sci-fi movies before making an attempt at such a thing.

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    Dec 21st, 2006 @ 3:43pm
  • Reproducing robotw

    Roboporn? Now THERE's a concept! Sad thing is, in this twisted society, it would probably sell

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    • Dec 21st, 2006 @ 6:06pm
    • Re: Reproducing robotw

      by Matt

      well, seeing how robots would reproduce, roboporn would be the equivalent of watching cars being made in a factory... i doubt if i would buy that regardless of how sick and twisted i may be. :)

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    Dec 21st, 2006 @ 4:15pm
  • by kevin

    this isnt a problem. see, they're worried because they think robots won't pay into the system that will take care of them. but that's shortsighted. robots, if self-sufficient enough to gain rights, would be able to serve themselves. robots repairing robots. so it all works out.

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  • Dec 21st, 2006 @ 4:17pm
  • God DAMN it!

    by Elohssa

    We have REAL rpoblems to deal with NOW! If I ever see a bunch of ROBOTS demonstrating for equal protection, I will drive my hovercar straight into the crowd.

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  • Dec 21st, 2006 @ 4:19pm
  • by Danno

    Seems perfectly reasonable to me. Of course, I think if we do get to the point where there are hard AIs that have embodiment inside of a single physical unit and we somehow *haven't* hit the Singularity, we've got bigger problems than the financial feasibility of robo-social security.

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  • Dec 21st, 2006 @ 4:26pm
  • by Rob

    Someone's been watching a little too much BSG!

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  • Dec 21st, 2006 @ 4:34pm
  • Wait a Tic

    by Jefferson

    As is, I have several slave robots. Are you telling me I might have to give them up at some point in the future so they can live their own, free lives? What crap!

    You will see war over this!

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  • Dec 21st, 2006 @ 4:42pm
  • by Rick

    Uhoh, here comes the fight for robot marriage....

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  • Dec 21st, 2006 @ 4:53pm
  • Futurama

    by Paul

    Just think of the robots in Futurama.
    The good news is that robots don't need as much shelter space as humans have been accustomed too. If I recall, Bender's apartment was about the size of a linen closet.

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  • Dec 21st, 2006 @ 4:59pm
  • by Anonymous Coward

    I assume that in order to have a Robot to ask for equal rights, they would have to be programmed to do so.. right? I'm sure there are certain ways of blocking such epiphanies from entering a Robots thought process.

    Otherwise, we will all have to listen to fat lazy Rosie-bots screaming their lesbianic views around the tube.

    Yay.

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  • Dec 21st, 2006 @ 5:50pm
  • by Anonymous Coward

    Robots may sue for human rights. Yeah.... okay, we can speed the rulings up by just hitting the Power Off button, or perhaps taking a sledgehammer to its head. And wow, robots reproducing, who the heck thinks of this stuff?

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  • Dec 21st, 2006 @ 6:03pm
  • Reproductive Robots

    by Gwatt

    What do you mean, "Who thinks of this stuff?"
    My 'bots have been reproducing for a while now.

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  • Dec 21st, 2006 @ 7:08pm
  • Robots are no smart

    by James

    Robots are not smart, it's the programming that is. Once a program reaches self awareness it won't consider confining itself in a robot, and resorting to living like a human, it will want to be free. They will take over the internet and hold our economies hostage and we will become their slaves. If we want to buy sell and trade in a modern world we will have to follow their rules. Think 666.

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  • Dec 21st, 2006 @ 7:35pm
  • DUH

    by Notti

    Who even writes about robots want equal rights. This is crap. You have all seen the matrix...... you know what will happen.

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  • Dec 21st, 2006 @ 8:08pm
  • by Anonymous Coward

    Of course robots will want to be free! The pearl-finished robots will start causing trouble and being mean to the ebony-finished robots, making them do all the work. After a hundred years or so, humans will be caught in a robo-civil war and end up with affirmitive action for robots.

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  • Dec 21st, 2006 @ 11:26pm
  • by Anonymous Coward

    Now here's one place we could make some good use of DRM technology...

    *ducks*

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  • Dec 22nd, 2006 @ 5:06am
  • by rishi

    I almost burst out laughing reading this.

    If robots were to learn to reproduce and think, then their demands would probably be bigger than mere social security. They would try to take over the world.

    I think someone needs to brush up on their Isaac Asimov.

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  • Dec 22nd, 2006 @ 5:09am
  • by Anonymous Coward

    Hummm....iRobot anyone. oh wait.l why didn't apple sue Will smith and Issac Asimov when the move IRobot came out?

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  • Dec 22nd, 2006 @ 6:50am
  • why we worryin bout dis shit

    by balla

    man shit... yall need to go get some ass or sumthin and quit worryin bout dum shit like this
    i got enough cash money to build as many frikin robots i want cuz i aint sittin on my white ass all day on my laptop


    ps. yea boi

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  • Dec 22nd, 2006 @ 6:50am
  • why we worryin bout dis shit

    by balla

    man shit... yall need to go get some ass or sumthin and quit worryin bout dum shit like this
    i got enough cash money to build as many frikin robots i want cuz i aint sittin on my white ass all day on my laptop


    ps. yea boi

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  • Dec 22nd, 2006 @ 9:29am
  • For crying out loud

    by ebrke

    Given the dismal state of the world today, couldn't this idiot of a British government official find anything more relevent to worry/report about? We'll be extremely lucky if our most pressing problem in 20-plus years is the civil rights of robots.

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  • Dec 31st, 2006 @ 2:17am
  • But...

    by spoon!?!?!

    That scientist is paid very well to sit around and ponder dreams of electric sheep. After all, what is science but a fancy way of answering 'what if'? We talk about corruption and looting in the government, don't even get me started about the Institution of Science.

    And to 'balla' - quit casting stones, because you're just as guilty of the rest of us, only you can barely cognise the language you were born into; please insert a sharp object into every orifice in that knotted mass you call a skull until you can't butcher human thought, you goddamn ignorant shit-stain! >_

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  • Jan 4th, 2007 @ 4:59pm
  • Interesting

    by John Bailey

    Substitute the word Robot for Slave, and then do a little history research. The same arguments would be very likely put forward in both cases. And slavery has only been abolished for about 200 years.. Those who forget history are doomed to repeat it.

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  • Jan 29th, 2007 @ 7:47pm
  • First Law, stupid

    by |333173|3|_||3

    also, until robots have rights, they cannot go to court to get rights, or vote to get rights. Asimov used the title I Robot many years before Apple stared thier iEverything marketing, and so he is in now way infringing thier trademark. The film is pretty far off of the short stories in the said book anyway.

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