Ctrl-Alt-Speech: The Bell Tolls For TikTok

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Anonymous Coward says:

-Loot boxes in games are absolutely meant to keep people addicted. Look at the gacha games on mobile, or the literal gambling that Valve gives a free pass to with the loot obtained from their loot boxes in Counter Strike. TikTok putting in an incentive to log in and visit the site daily is similar to gacha games that give people daily login bonuses.

-I really dislike Mike’s continued framing of Europe’s laws like the DSA as if it’s the EU on the hunt for corporations to beat up on. TikTok putting in scummy crap into their app like what you’d find in a scummy game is well within the bounds of what they should be looking for and tackling.

-Facebook and their Metaverse is an utter joke that I don’t think anybody takes seriously, nor should they.

-Discord: Discord just had a huge issue where they’re letting so many people scrape their stuff. Stuff that was being sent to KiwiFarms, for example.

Mike Masnick (profile) says:

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Thank you for listening, and we always appreciate the feedback, even critical. However, I think some of your criticism is a bit unfair.

Loot boxes in games are absolutely meant to keep people addicted

Yes, I compared what Tiktok is doing to loot boxes. My only mention of it was in noting how similar it was in terms of regulators looking at it, which is why it was crazy that TikTok would launch this now.

I really dislike Mike’s continued framing of Europe’s laws like the DSA as if it’s the EU on the hunt for corporations to beat up on.

I mean… but they are? You don’t have to like it, but that’s the reality. They’ve been pretty upfront about that.

TikTok putting in scummy crap into their app like what you’d find in a scummy game is well within the bounds of what they should be looking for and tackling.

And… I said as much in the podcast. Did you skip over that part?

Facebook and their Metaverse is an utter joke that I don’t think anybody takes seriously, nor should they.

I mean, 20 million headsets is not nothing. But also, part of the whole point of what I was talking about was how Meta was doing this in response to the lackluster adoption.

Again, you wrote this as if I was suggesting it was a big deal when I explicitly said, multiple times, that this was a response to it not performing well.

Discord: Discord just had a huge issue where they’re letting so many people scrape their stuff. Stuff that was being sent to KiwiFarms, for example.

Yes. Also, wholly unrelated to the topic we were talking about.

Happy to take criticism, but I’d prefer the criticism be based on accurate portrayals of what we said.

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